HC Deb 18 January 1812 vol 21 cc177-85
Mr. Mitford,

from the Secretary of State's Office, presented a Comparative Statement of the Population of the several Counties of Great Britain, in the Years 1801 and 1811; shewing the Increase or Diminution thereof: together with the present State of the Returns called for by an Act of the last Session of Parliament.

On the motion that this Account be printed

Mr. Rose

said, he would take the present opportunity of making a few observations on the subject matter of the Account then before the House. No regular Census had beep attempted to be taken of the population of England, Scotland, and Wales, until the year 1801, when the right hop, gentleman, who now filled the chair of that House, brought in a Bill for that purpose.—The right hon. gentleman said, that he, in the last session, had had the honour of introducing the measure, under which the late enumeration was made; and he had great pleasure in stating to the House, that, in the course of the last ten years, since the Census of 1801, an increase of population, to the amount of more than one million and a half, had taken place. In England that increase appeared to be in a ratio of 14 per centum; in Wales 12 and in Scotland 13 This, increase in the amount of the population, exhibited an extent and duration unexampled in the history of this country; and what rendered it still more surprising was that the increase of the males was as great as that, of the females. The total population of England, Scotland, and Wales, in 1801, was 10,472,048; at present it amounted to 11,911,644; making an increase of 1,439,596 persons, actually resident in the country; which, added to 170,000 men comprised in our army and navy abroad, made a total amount of 1,609,498.—He considered it a master of great congratulation to the country that the population should have so much in creased, when the drain of men for the army, navy, and merchant service was contemplated. It might perhaps be said, that, at the time when the country was called on to exult in such an increased population, it unfortunately appeared, that the employment for the lower orders had fallen off. Where such a circumstance occurred, it was to be regretted; but, he believed, in the manufacturing counties, and there only, had employment failed: every where else it kept pace with the increase of the population. And even there, it would be found, that the evil was not so generally felt as in the last year. But, taking the circumstances and situation of the country into consideration, it was of more importance to the empire that the population was in a state, of progressive increase, than that partial instances of a failure of employ had occurred. It probably might be alledged, that the apparent increase in the present Census arose in some measure from the former not having been properly executed; but he believed the Census of 1801, which was entrusted to nearly the same persons as were employed on the present occasion, was correct. There was a subject of infinite importance connected With this increased state of population; he meant the facility of providing the people with food. Much had been Stated on the high price of provisions, and the uncertainty of a supply of grain from other countries. Means should, therefore, be devised, to enable the country to supply it self. A person was then waiting to present an Account, Which would place the subject of the importation of grain in a very clear point of view; and it was a subject which required the most accurate information. By that account it would be seen, that, in the period of eleven years, between 1775 and 1786, the average quantity of grain imported annually, was 564,413 quarters; from 1787 to 1708, 1,136,101 quarters; and from 1799 to 1810, including three years of scarcity, 1,471,003 quarters; The average prices were 30s. per quarter in the first period, 40s. in the second and 60s. in the third. In the last year not less than 4,271,000l. went out of the country for the sustenance of the inhabitants—a matter of most serious import to the public. There was also another Account, by which it appeared that the consumption of wheat and flour imported from foreign countries, had been progressively increasing from 1775 to the present time. In 1810, the quantity imported was 693,000 quarters; which clearly proved that the increased consumption of wheat was greater than that of all other grain, and that those who did not heretofore ordinarily make use of wheat, now made it a principal part of their food. To meet the growing wants of the population, without having recourse to foreign countries, was a most important object. He was aware that the inclosure of common and waste lands was carried to a great extent; but this did not keep pace with the necessities of the country. What, then, could be added to their internal resources? He had no objection that all the lands fit for the growth of barley, oats, &c. should be continued under that species of tillage. But still this alone would not be sufficient; and he was persuaded that there was no way in which the country could effectually supply its population, except by encouraging and extending the planting of potatoes, which would grow in those soils that were unfit for the cultivation of grain. There was also another source of supply, he meant the fisheries. It was strange, that in a maritime country, like this, fish was rarely to be seen, except at the tables of the rich. The poor received little or no benefit from that nutritious description of aliment. There might be some prejudices against it; but the exertions of gentlemen in the different parts of the country, if rightly directed, would do them away. He himself had been enabled, at a time when the quartern loaf was extremely dear, to supply the poor, in his immediate neighbourhood, with 22 pounds of good potatoes, and nine herrings, for fifteen pence; If the hints he had thrown out were acted upon, it would tend to introduce a variety of nutritious food amongst the lower orders of society, save a sum of 3,500,000l. annually to the country, increase the agriculture of the kingdom, and, by extending the fisheries, employ a hundred thousand persons in that way, which, more than any other, was calculated to uphold the naval greatness of the empire.

Mr. Brougham

participated in the great satisfaction expressed by the right hon. gentleman, at the flourishing increase of the population; and had derived much pleasure from the sensible and important observations he had made on the subject of provisions; a subject which the House should always keep in view, but particularly at the present moment, when the country was threatened with a scarcity. He was not, however, prepared to agree with the right hon. gentleman to the full extent of his statement. With respect to the great and progressive increase of population, since the Census of 1801, there certainly was an apparent increase; but whether, upon inquiry, a real increase could be substantiated, was another matter. The point on which his doubt arose had been touched upon by the right hon. gentleman. In 1801, under the then Population Act, a Census had been taken. Being a novel measure, and its machinery for the first time set at work, and, indeed, in part only created, its results could not be supposed to possess all that accuracy which was manifested on the present occasion, after the experiment had been once made. Even if the same persons were employed on each Census, it was apparent, that, having had the experience of the first, they would be more capable of a correct discharge of their duties, than when they originally undertook the task. There were other reasons, too, which operated against the correctness of the Census of 1801. When the measure was first proposed, it had to struggle with the prejudices of the people. That they were wrong he admitted; but their existence was known to every man in the country. Many persons had imbibed superstitious ideas on the subject. They conceived there was an ominous fatality, something extremely unlucky, in numbering the people; and they quoted certain passages from the Old Testament, in support of their opinion. Those prejudices were now dope away.; and that circumstance, added to the, increased experience of the persons to whom the operation of the present Act was entrusted, must have had, the effect of producing a result nearer the truth, than could be procured under all the difficulties, arising from, the novelty of the measure, the prejudices of the people, and the inexperience of those who were engaged in making the Census in 1801 The question, then, was, whether the error was one of increase or of diminution? From the probable causes of error which he had assigned, particularly the prejudice against the Bill, he thought it was fair to infer, that the Census of 1801 made the population less than it really was; to what extent he would not pretend to say. But, as the present Census was, no doubt, more accurate, those were included in it, who were not enrolled in the former, and thus an apparent increase, to a certain extent, was produced. Indeed, looking to the state of war in which the country had been so long engaged, the number of emigrations, and various other circumstances, he could not comprehend how the population could have increased in such a surprising manner; for, contrasted with the neighbouring countries, the population of Great Britain made a progress comparatively slow, But the important question was, taking for granted the alledged increase of population, whether the advantages derivable from it were so great as the right hon. gentleman seemed to think? And here, one point had been omitted by him, which might have been very properly introduced when he spoke of the high price of provisions. He thought that an account of the increase of the Poor's Rates ought to have been laid on the table along with the documents to which the right hon. gentleman had alluded. That, perhaps, would have shewn, that the comfort and happiness of the people had not increased with their numbers. He would now call the attention of those persons who were particularly connected with the measure, to a very great defect in the law, as it at present stood. He conceived that it ought to have extended to Ireland. A Census of the inhabitants of that part of the empire ought to be taken, pointing out, if possible, the progressive increase for the last twenty years, or, at all events, since the legislative union. He regretted, extremely, that such a measure had not been heretofore resorted to; particularly when they were on the eve of agitating that most important subject, the State of Ireland. When they were about to enter into a dispassionate inquiry into the state of the people of that country, for the purpose of securing the rights and redressing the wrongs, of a great part of its population, it Was deeply to be lamented that some such salutary act had not been introduced 12 years ago; or, at any rate, last year. If a Census were directed to be taken there, it would be right, in his opinion, to have the number of persons attached to each religious sect specified. How many Catholics, Protestants, and Dissenters, that, at one view, their numerical relation, to each other might be discernible. The hon. and learned gentle man concluded by recommending the subject to the serious consideration of his Majesty's ministers.

Mr. Rose

observed, that he had formerly moved for Accounts in order to ascertain the amount of the Poor's Rate, and had written a pamphlet on the subject, which were proofs that it had not escaped his attention.

Mr. Herbert,

of Kerry, agreed with the hon. and learned gentleman in the propriety of instituting a Census for the population of Ireland, and stated as the result of his own personal inquiries and information, that the population of Ireland had been long rapidly augmenting.

Mr. P. Moore

observed, that the right hon. gentleman, on a motion for printing a document, had addressed the House, at some length, on one subject which was, and one which was not before them. As to the paper which was on the table, it carried evidence of its falshood on the face of it. It was stated to be a document shewing the strength of the empire. If it was so, why was Ireland not included? The population of England, Scotland, and Wales, was 11,000,000 And were the six million of Ireland to be forgotten; many of whom were then fighting the battles of the empire, and made part of that army and navy which swelled the list then before the House? If Ireland was really considered as part of the effective strength of the empire, it was a criminal deficiency to omit her population.

The said Return was then ordered to be printed, and is as follows:

COMPARATIVE STATEMENT of the POPULATION of the several Counties of BRITAIN, in the years 1801 and 1811; shewing the increase or Diminution there of: together with the present State of the Returns called for by an Act of the last Session of Parliament.

ENGLAND.
COUNTIES. POPULATION 1801. In crease. Diminuloin POPULATION 1811.
Males. Females. Total. Males. Females. Total.
Bedford 30,523 32,870 63,393 6,820 33,171 37,042 70,213
Berks 52,821 56,394 109,215 9,062 57,360 60,917 118,217
Buckingham 52,094 55,350 107,444 10,206 56,208 61,442 117,650
Combridge 44,081 45,265 89,346 11,763 50,756 50,353 101,109
Chester 92,759 98,992 191,751 35,280 110,844 116,190 227,031
Cornwall 89,868 98,401 188,269 28,398 103,310 113,357 216,667
Cumberland 54,377 62,853 117,230 16,514 63,433 70,311 133,744
Derby 79,401 81,746 161,142 24,345 91,494 93,993 185,487
Devon 157,240 185,761 343,001 40,307 179,553 203,755 383,308
Dorset 53,667 61,652 115,319 9,374 57,717. 66,976 124,693
Durham 74,770 85,591 160,361 19,444 84,777 95,028 179,805
Essex 111,356 115,081 226,437 26,036 124,839 127,634 252,473
Gloucester 117,180 133,629 250,809 27,727 129,546 148,990 278,536
Hereford 43,955 45,236 89,191 4,882 46,404 47,669 94,073
Hertford 48,063 49,514 97,577 14,077 55,023 56,631 111,654
Huntingdon 18,521 19,047 37,568 4,640 20,402 21,806 42,208
Kent 151,374 156,250 307,624 63,261 181,925 188,960 370,855
Lancaster 322,356 350,375 672,731 155,578 394,104 434,205 828,309
Leicester 63,943 66,138 130,081 20,338 73,366 77,055 150,419
Lincoln 102,445 106,112 208,557 13,994 109,707 112,844 222,551
Middlesex 373,655 444,474 818,129 131,913 433,036 517,006 950,042
Monmouth 22,173 23,409 45,582 5,692 25,715 25,559 51,274
Norfolk 129,842 143,529 273,371 18,611 138,076 153,906 291,982
Northampton 63,417 68,340 131,757 9,596 68,279 73,074 141,353
Northumberland 73,357 83,741 157,101 15,060 80,385 91,776 172,161
Nottingham 68,558 71,792 140,350 22,580 79,057 83,843 162,900
Oxford 53,786 55,834 109,620 9,584 59,140 60,064 119,204
Rutland 7,978 8,378 16,356 24 7,931 8,449 16,380
Salop 82,563 85,076 167,639 27,061 96,038 98,662 194,700
Somerset 126,927 146,823 273,750 29,430 141,449 161,731 303,181
Southampton 105,667 113,789 219,656 25,691 118,434 126,913 245,347
Stafford 118,698 120,455 239,153 57,370 148,758 147,765 296,523
Sufffolk 101,091 109,340 210,431 23,468 111,866 122,033 233,899
Surrey 127,138 141,905 269,043 54,808 151,811 172,040 323,851
Sussex 78,797 80,514 159,311 29,934 93,775 95,470 189,245
Warwick 99,942 108,248 208,190 10,703 104,487 114,406 218,893
Westmorland 20,175 21,442 41,617 4,369 22,902 23,084 45,986
Wilts 87,380 97,727 185,107 8,721 91,560 102,268 193,838
Worcester 67,631 71,702 139,333 21,668 78,261 82,740 161,001
York, E. Riding 68,457 70,976 139,433 27,920 81,205 86,148 167,353
—N. Riding 74,904 80,602 155,506 2,698 77,505 80,609 158,204
—W Riding 276,005 287,948 563,953 89,049. 321,651 331,351 653,002
Totals 3,987,935. 4,343,499. 8,331,434 1,167,966 4,555,257 4,944,143 9,499,400
WALES.
Anglesey 15,175 18,031 33,806 3,286 17,467 19,625 37,092
Brecon 15,393 16,240 31,633 6,117 18,522 19,228 37,730
Cardigan 20,408 22,548 42,956 7,376 23,793 26,539 50,332
Carmarthan 31,439 35,878 67,317 9,900 36,080 41,137 77,217
Carnarvon 19,586 21,935 41,521 7,498 23,241 25,778 49,019
Denbigh 29,247 31,105 60,352 3,888 31,129 33,111 64,240
Flint 19,577 20,045 39,622 6,896 22,712 23,806 46,518
Glamorgan 34,190 37,335 71,525. 9,743 39,378 41,890 81,268
Merioneth 13,896 15,610 29,506 1,418 14,308 16,616 30,924
Montgomery 22,914 25,064 47,978 2,628 24,760 25,846 50,606
Pembroke 25,406 30,874 56,280 4,335 27,453 33,162 60,615
Radnor 9,347 9,703 19,050 2,749 10,571 11,228 21,799
Totals 257,178 284,368 541,546 65,834 289,414 317,966 607,380
SCOTLAND.
SHIRES. POPULATION 1801. Increase. Diminution POPULATION 1811.
Males. Females. Total. Males. Females. Total.
Aberdeen 55,625 67,457 123,082 13,891 60,973 75,930 136,903
Argyll 33,767 38,092 71,859 13,726 40,675 44,910 85,585
Ayr 39,686 44,640 84,396 19,648 48,506 55,448 103,954
Banff 16,067 19,740 35,807 - - 1707 14,911 19,189 34,100
Berwick 14,294 16,327 30,621 158 14,466 16,313 30,779
Bute 5,552 6,239 11,791 282 5,545 6,488 12,033
Caithness 10,183 12,426 22,609 810 10,608 12,811 23,419
Clackmanan 5,064 5,794 10,858 1,152 5,715 6,295 12,010
Dumbarton 9,796 10,914 20,710 3,479 11,369 12,820 24,189
Dumfries 25,407 29,190 54,597 8,363 29,347 33,613 62,960
Edinburgh 54,224 68,730 122,954 25,490 64,903 83,541 148,444
Elgin 11,763 14,942 26,705 1,403 12,401 15,707 28,108
Fife 42,952 50,791 93,743 7,529 45,968 55,304 101,272
Forfar 45,461 53,666 99,127 8,137 48,151 59,113 107,264
Haddington 13,890 16,096 29,986 1,178 14,232 16,932 31,164
Inverness 33,801 40,491 74,292 4,123 35,749 42,666 78,415
Kincardine 12,104 14,245 26,349 1,090 12,580 14,859 27,439
Kinross 3,116 3,609 6,725 520 3,466 3,779 7,245
Kirkcudbright 13,619 15,592 29,211 4,473 15,788 17,896 33,684
Lanark 68,100 78,599 146,699 45,053 88,688 103,064 191,752
Linlithgow 8,129 9,715 17,844 1,607 8,874 10,577 19,451
Nairn 3,639 4,618 8,257 - - 6 3,530 4,721 8,251
Orkney & Shetland 20,793 26,031 46,824 - - 671 20,151 26,002 46,153
Peebles 4,160 4,575 8,735 1,200 4,846 5,089 9,935
Parth 58,808 67,558 126,366 8,727 64,034 71,059 135,093
Renfrew 36,068 41,988 78,056 14,540 41,960 50,636 92,596
Ross & Cromarty 25,494 29,849 55,343 5,510 27,640 33,213 60,853
Roxburgh 15,813 17,869 33,682 3,548 17,113 20,117 37,230
Selkirk 2,356 2,714 5,070 819 2,750 3,139 5,889
Stivling 23,375 26,950 50,825 7,349 27,745 30,429 58,174
Sutherland 10,425 12,692 23,117 512 10,488 13,141 23,629
Wigtown 10,570 12,348 22,918 3,973 12,205 14,686 26,891
Totals 734,581 864,487 1,599,068 208,180 2384 825,377 979,487 1,804,864
SUMMARY.
POPULATION 1801. Increase. Diminution POPULATION 1811.
Males. Females. Total. Males. Females. Total.
England 8,987,935 4,343,499 8,331,434 1,167,966 4,555,257 4,944,143 9,499,400
Wales 257,178 284,368 541,546 65,834 289,414 317,966 607,380
Scotland 734,581 864,487 1,599,068 208,180 2384 825,377 979,487 1,804,864
Army, Navy, &c. 470,598 - - - 470,598 169,902 640,500 - - - 640,500
Totals 5,450,292 5,492,354 10,942,646 1,611,882 2384 6,310,548 6,241,596 12,552,144
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