HL Deb 17 July 2000 vol 615 cc671-766

8.52 p.m.

House again in Committee (on Recommitment).

Clause 178 [Local licensing schemes]:

[Amendments Nos. 240A to 242 not moved.]

Clause 178 agreed to.

Clauses 179 and 180 agreed to.

Clause 181 [Workplace parking places]:

[Amendments Nos. 243 to 247 not moved.]

Lord Berkeley moved Amendment No. 247A: Page 108, line 44, at end insert (", or ( ) a member of the public").

The noble Lord said: I should like to move Amendment No. 247A, which by nature is a probing amendment. It continues with a theme established in earlier amendments that there should be a minimum number of exceptions to any rules covering workplace parking

On reading the clause, there appears to be some difficulty in achieving a simple solution as regards which workplace parking locations are to be covered and who will be "relevant persons". Can my noble friend tell me whether city centre car parks—multistorey or otherwise—owned by local authorities or private car park companies would be covered? Similarly, will out-of-town supermarket car parks be so covered? Those are only two examples. It is clear that both of these forms of parking facilities contribute significantly to traffic generation in the same way as office car parking.

Can my noble friend explain whether public car parks and supermarket car parks are covered? If not, why not? As I have said, this is a probing amendment. I beg to move.

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

I am relieved to hear that my noble friend has tabled this as a probing amendment. However, it concerns an important issue; namely, the scope of the workplace parking levy.

Our response to the consultation paper, Breaking the Logjam, made it clear that we intend that the levy will apply to workplace parking only. That is because our most serious congestion problems are associated with peak period commuting to work.

I accept what my noble friend Lord Berkeley has said; namely, that customer parking provided for the public at retail and leisure facilities or in public car parks can contribute to local congestion, both in town centres and in other areas. However, the effects are not usually concentrated in peak periods, unlike the effect of people driving to work. The Government are not persuaded that a levy on non-workplace parking is the most effective way of changing customer travel patterns.

We have said that we shall be looking to major retail and leisure operators to work with local authorities to build on the initiatives that some major retailers have already taken to tackle over-dependency on the car. These could include providing bus shelters, funding bus priority measures on the surrounding road network and providing secure cycle parking. Retail outlets could extend or introduce easy and affordable home delivery services.

I can assure my noble friend that we expect real progress to be made in this area. We have asked the Commission for Integrated Transport to consider the case for changing the scope of the levy; I think that it would be best to wait for the commission's recommendations before taking a final decision on extending the scope of the parking levy. This approach will also provide greater flexibility in deciding how any legislation for a levy on customer parking might be drafted.

The amendment would extend the definition of "relevant person" to include members of the public. This would mean that parking at a premises by a member of the public would fall within the scope of the levy, but only if it still passed the test at the end of Clause 181(1), which the amendment would not change, of, for attending a place at which the relevant person [or member of the public] carries on business". Changing the definition of "relevant person" as provided by the amendment will not extend the scope of the levy to include customer parking.

I do not believe that the levy should apply to members of the public for the reasons that. I have outlined. I therefore hope that my noble friend will agree to withdraw his amendment.

Lord Berkeley

My Lords, my noble friend has quite rightly pointed out the deficiencies of drafting in my amendment. I am sorry that the Government are not taking this opportunity to put in place powers to extend levies to supermarket and other parking facilities, perhaps to be implemented only later. However, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

[Amendments Nos. 247B and 247C not moved.]

Clause 181 agreed to.

Lord Dixon-Smith moved Amendment No. 247D: After Clause 181, insert the following new clause—

    cc673-9
  1. LICENSING SCHEME: COMPENSATION FOR COSTS 3,035 words
  2. cc679-703
  3. GREEN TRANSPORT PLANS 11,975 words
  4. cc703-23
  5. PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND MINIMUM STANDARD LEVELS 9,718 words
  6. cc723-43
  7. TENDERS AND FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS: RELEVANT CONSIDERATIONS 14 words
    1. cc723-43
    2. Tenders and franchise agreements: relevant considerations. 9,550 words, 1 division
  8. REVIEW OF BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE FUNCTIONS
    1. cc743-55
    2. REVIEW OF BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE FUNCTIONS 6,171 words
    cc755-61
  9. DIRECTIONS REQUIRING GRANT OF LEASE 2,632 words
  10. cc761-2
  11. INFORMATION ABOUT CAPACITY AND REGIONAL FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE 485 words
  12. cc762-6
  13. PERMISSION TO CONSTRUCT OR OPERATE NEW RAILWAY FACILITIES ETC 1,474 words