§ 7. All other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed.—[Paul Clark.]
§ The House divided:Ayes 361, Noes 231.
§ Division No. 39] [7:21 pm
280| AYES | |
| Adams, Irene (Paisley N) | Burgon, Colin |
| Ainger, Nick | Burnham, Andy |
| Ainsworth, Bob Cov'try NE) | Byers, rh Stephen |
| Alexander, Douglas | Caborn, rh Richard |
| Allen, Graham | Cairns, David |
| Anderson, rh Donald (Swansea E) | Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) |
| Anderson, Janet (Rossendale & Darwen) | Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | |
| Armstrong, rh Ms Hilary | Caplin, Ivor |
| Atherton, Ms Candy | Casale, Roger |
| Atkins, Charlotte | Caton, Martin |
| Austin, John | Cawsey, Ian (Brigg) |
| Bailey, Adrian | Challen, Colin |
| Baird, Vera | Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) |
| Banks, Tony | Chaytor, David |
| Barron, rh Kevin | Clark, Dr. Lynda (Edinburgh Pentlands) |
| Battle, John | |
| Bayley, Hugh | Clark, Paul (Gillingham) |
| Beard, Nigel | Clarke, rh Charles (Norwich S) |
| Beckett, rh Margaret | Clarke, rh Tom (Coatbridge & Chryston) |
| Begg, Miss Anne | |
| Bell, Sir Stuart | Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) |
| Benn, rh Hilary | Clelland, David |
| Bennett, Andrew | Clwyd, Ann (Cynon V) |
| Benton, Joe (Bootle) | Coaker, Vernon |
| Best, Harold | Coffey, Ms Ann |
| Betts, Clive | Coleman, Iain |
| Blackman, Liz | Connarty, Michael |
| Blears, Ms Hazel | Cook, Frank (Stockton N) |
| Blizzard, Bob | Cook, rh Robin (Livingston) |
| Blunkett, rh David | Cooper, Yvette |
| Boateng, rh Paul | Corston, Jean |
| Borrow, David | Cousins, Jim |
| Bradley, rh Keith (Withington) | Cranston, Ross |
| Bradley, Peter (The Wrekin) | Crausby, David |
| Bradshaw, Ben | Cruddas, Jon |
| Brennan, Kevin | Cryer, Ann (Keighley) |
| Brown, rh Nicholas (Newcastle E Wallsend) | Cryer, John (Hornchurch) |
| Cummings, John | |
| Brown, Russell (Dumfries) | Cunningham, rh Dr. Jack (Copeland) |
| Browne, Desmond | |
| Bryant, Chris | Cunningham, Jim (Coventry S) |
| Buck, Ms Karen | Cunningham, Tony (Workington) |
| Burden, Richard | Curtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire |
| Darling, rh Alistair | Howarth, George (Knowsley N & Sefton E) |
| David, Wayne | |
| Davidson, Ian | Howells, Dr. Kim |
| Davies, rh Denzil (Llanelli) | Hughes, Beverley (Stretford & Urmston) |
| Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) | |
| Dawson, Hilton | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Dean, Mrs Janet | Humble, Mrs Joan |
| Denham, rh John | Hurst, Alan (Braintree) |
| Dhanda, Parmjit | Hutton, rh John |
| Dismore, Andrew | Iddon, Dr. Brian |
| Dobbin, Jim (Heywood) | Illsley, Eric |
| Dobson, rh Frank | Ingram, rh Adam |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Irranca-Davies, Huw |
| Doran, Frank | Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough) |
| Dowd, Jim (Lewisham W) | Jamieson, David |
| Drew, David (Stroud) | Johnson, Alan (Hull W) |
| Drown, Ms Julia | Johnson, Miss Melanie (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Eagle, Angela (Wallasey) | Jones, Helen (Warrington N) |
| Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) | Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) |
| Edwards, Huw | Jones, Kevan (N Durham) |
| Efford, Clive | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S) |
| Ellman, Mrs Louise | Jowell, rh Tessa |
| Ennis, Jeff (Barnsley E) | Joyce, Eric (Falkirk W) |
| Etherington, Bill | Kaufman, rh Gerald |
| Farrelly, Paul | Keeble, Ms Sally |
| Field, rh Frank (Birkenhead) | Keen, Alan (Feltham) |
| Fisher, Mark | Keen, Ann (Brentford) |
| Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna | Kelly, Ruth (Bolton W) |
| Flint, Caroline | Kemp, Fraser |
| Flynn, Paul (Newport W) | Kennedy, Jane (Wavertree) |
| Follett, Barbara | Khabra, Piara S. |
| Foster, rh Derek | Kidney, David |
| Foster, Michael (Worcester) | King, Andy (Rugby) |
| Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings & Rye) | King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green & Bow) |
| Foulkes, rh George | Knight, Jim (S Dorset) |
| Francis, Dr. Hywel | Kumar, Dr. Ashok |
| Ladyman, Dr. Stephen | |
| Gapes, Mike (Ilford S) | Lammy, David |
| Gardiner, Barry | Lawrence, Mrs Jackie |
| George, rh Bruce (Walsall S) | Laxton, Bob (Derby N) |
| Gerrard, Neil | Lazarowicz, Mark |
| Gilroy, Linda | Lepper, David |
| Goggins, Paul | Leslie, ChristopherLevitt, Tom (High Peak) |
| Griffiths, Jane (Reading E) | Lewis, Ivan (Bury S) |
| Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) | Liddell, rh Mrs Helen |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Linton, Martin |
| Hain, rh Peter | Lloyd, Tony (Manchester C) |
| Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale) | Love, Andrew |
| Hall, Patrick (Bedford) | Lucas, Ian (Wrexham) |
| Hamilton, David (Midlothian) | Luke, lain (Dundee E) |
| Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE) | Lyons, John (Strathkelvin) |
| Hanson, David | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Harman, rh Ms Harriet | McCabe, Stephen |
| Harris, Tom (Glasgow Cathcart) | McCafferty, Chris |
| Havard, Dai (Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney) | McCartney, rh Ian |
| McDonagh, Siobhain | |
| Healey, John | MacDonald, Calum |
| Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N) | MacDougall, John |
| Henderson, Ivan (Harwich) | McFall, John |
| Hendrick, Mark | McGuire, Mrs Anne |
| Hepburn, Stephen | McIsaac, Shona |
| Heppell, John | McKechin, Ann |
| Hesford, Stephen | McKenna, Rosemary |
| Hewitt. rh Ms Patricia | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Heyes, David | McNulty, TonyDenis, MacShane |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Mactaggart, Fiona |
| Hodge, Margaret | McWalter, Tony |
| Hoey, Kate (Vauxhall) | McWilliam, John |
| Hood, Jimmy (Clydesdale) | Mahmood, Khalid |
| Hoon, rh Geoffrey | Mallaber, Judy |
| Hope, Phil (Corby) | Mendelson, rh Peter |
| Howarth, rh Alan (Newport E) | Mann, John (Bassetlaw) |
| Marris, Rob (Wolverh'ton SW) | Sawford, Phil |
| Marsden, Gordon (Blakpool S) | Shaw, Jonathan |
| Marshall, David (Glasgow Shettleston) | Sheerman, Barry |
| Sheridan, Jim | |
| Martlew, Eric | Simon, Siôn (B'ham Erdington) |
| Meacher, rh Michael | Singh, Marsha |
| Merron, Gillian | Skinner, Dennis |
| Michael, rh Alun | Smith, rh Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Milburn, rh Alan | Smith, Angela (Basildon) |
| Miliband, David | Smith, rh Chris (Islington S & Finsbury) |
| Miller, Andrew | |
| Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) | Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale) |
| Moffatt, Laura | |
| Mole, Chris | Smith, Jacqui (Redditch) |
| Moonie, Dr. Lewis | Smith, John (Glamorgan) |
| Moran, Margaret | Soley, Clive |
| Morgan, Julie | Southworth, Helen |
| Morley, Elliot | Spellar, rh John |
| Morris, rh Estelle | Squire, Rachel |
| Mountford, Kali | Starkey, Dr. Phyllis |
| Mullin, Chris | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Munn, Ms Meg | Stewart, David (Inverness E & Lochaber) |
| Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) | |
| Murphy, Jim (Eastwood) | Stewart, Ian (Eccles) |
| Murphy, rh Paul (Torfaen) | Stinchcombe, Paul |
| Naysmith, Dr. Doug | Stoate, Dr. Howard |
| Norris, Dan (Wansdyke) | Strang, rh Dr. Gavin |
| O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) | Straw, rh Jack |
| O'Brien, Mike (N Warks) | Stringer, Graham |
| O'Hara, Edward | Stuart, Ms Gisela |
| Olner, Bill | Sutcliffe, Gerry |
| O'Neill, Martin | Tami, Mark (Alyn) |
| Organ, Diana | Taylor, rh Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Osborne, Sandra (Ayr) | Taylor, Dari (Stockton S) |
| Owen, Albert | Taylor, David (NW Leics) |
| Palmer, Dr. Nick | Thomas, Gareth (Clwyd W) |
| Pearson, Ian | Thomas, Gareth (Harrow W) |
| Perham, Linda | Timms, Stephen |
| Picking, Anne | Tipping, Paddy |
| Pickthall, Colin | Todd, Mark (S Derbyshire) |
| Pike, Peter (Burnley) | Touhig, Don (lslwyn) |
| Plaskitt, James | Trickett, Jon |
| Pollard, Kerry | Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE) |
| Pond, Chris (Gravesham) | Turner, Neil (Wigan) |
| Pope, Greg (Hyndburn) | Twigg, Derek (Halton) |
| Pound, Stephen | Twigg, Stephen (Enfield) |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) | Tynan, Bill (Hamilton S) |
| Vaz, Keith (Leicester E) | |
| Prescott, rh John | Vis, Dr. Rudi |
| Primarolo, rh Dawn | Walley, Ms Joan |
| Prosser, Gwyn | Ward, Claire |
| Purchase, Ken | Watson, Tom (W Bromwich E) |
| Purnell, James | |
| Quin, rh Joyce | Watts, David |
| Quinn, Lawrie | White, Brian |
| Rammell, Bill | Whitehead, Dr. Alan |
| Rapson, Syd (Portsmouth N) | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Raynsford, rh Nick | Williams, rh Alan (Swansea W) |
| Reed, Andy (Loughborough) | Williams, Betty (Conwy) |
| Reid, rh Dr. John (Hamilton N & Bellshill) | Wills, Michael |
| Wilson, Brian | |
| Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland) | Winnick, David |
| Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C) | |
| Robinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW) | |
| Woodward, Shaun | |
| Roche, Mrs Barbara | Woolas, Phil |
| Rooney, Terry | Worthington, Tony |
| Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) | Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth) |
| Roy, Frank (Motherwell) | |
| Ruane, Chris | Wright, David (Telford) |
| Ruddock, Joan | Wright, Tony (Cannock) |
| Russell, Ms Christine (City of Chester) | Wyatt, Derek |
| Salter, Martin | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Sarwar, Mohammad | Jim Fitzpatrick and |
| Savidge, Malcolm | Joan Ryan |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Forth, rh Eric |
| Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey) | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Allan, Richard | Gale, Roger (N Thanet) |
| Amess, David | Garnier, Edward |
| Ancram, rh Michael | George, Andrew (St. Ives) |
| Arbuthnot, rh James | Gibb, Nick (Bognor Regis) |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mth E) | Gidley, Sandra |
| Bacon, Richard | Gillan, Mrs Cheryl |
| Baker, Norman | Goodman, Paul |
| Baldry, Tony | Gray, James (N Wilts) |
| Baron, John (Billericay) | Grayling, Chris |
| Barrett, John | Green, Damian (Ashford) |
| Beggs, Roy (E Antrim) | Green, Matthew (Ludlow) |
| Beith, rh A. J. | Greenway, John |
| Bellingham, Henry | Grieve, Dominic |
| Bercow, John | Gummer, rh John |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Hague, rh william |
| Blunt, Crispin | Hammond Philip |
| Boswell, Tim | Hancock, Mike |
| Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W) | Harris, Dr. Evan (Oxford W & Abingdon) |
| Bottomley, rh Virginia (SW Surrey) | |
| Hawkins, Nick | |
| Brady, Graham | Hayes, John (S Holland) |
| Brake, Tom (Carshalton) | Heald, Oliver |
| Brazier, Julian | Heath, David |
| Breed, Colin | Hendry, Charles |
| Brooke, Mrs Annette L. | Hermon, Lady |
| Browning, Mrs Angela | Hoban, Mark (Fareham) |
| Bruce, Malcolm | Hogg, rh Douglas |
| Burnett, John | Holmes, Paul |
| Burns, Simon | Horam, John (Orpington) |
| Burnside, David | Howard, rh Michael |
| Burstow, Paul | Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot) |
| Burt, Alistair | Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) |
| Butterfill, Sir John | Hunter, Andrew |
| Cable, Dr. Vincent | Jack, rh Michael |
| Calton, Mrs Patsy | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Cameron, David | Johnson, Boris (Henley) |
| Campbell, Gregory (E Lond'y) | Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) |
| Campbell, rh Sir Menzies (NE Fife) | Keetch, Paul |
| Kennedy, rh Charles (Ross Skye & Inverness) | |
| Carmichael, Alistair | |
| Cash, William | Key, Robert (Salisbury) |
| Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet) | Kirkbride, Miss Julie |
| Kirkwood, Sir Archy | |
| Chope, Christopher | Knight, rh Greg (E Yorkshire) |
| Clappison, James | Laing, Mrs Eleanor |
| Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough) | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Clarke, rh Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Lamb, Norman |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Lansley, Andrew |
| Conway, Derek | Laws, David (Yeovil) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Leigh, Edward |
| Cormack, Sir Patrick | Letwin, rh Oliver |
| Cotter, Brian | Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E) |
| Curry, rh David | Liddell-Grainger, Ian |
| Davey, Edward (Kingston) | Lidington, David |
| Davies, Quentin (Grantham & Stamford) | Lilley, rh Peter |
| Llwyd, Elfyn | |
| Davis, rh David (Haltemprice & Howden) | Loughton, Tim |
| Luff, Peter (M-Worcs) | |
| Djanogly, Jonathan | McDonnell, John |
| Dodds, Nigel | McIntosh, Miss Anne |
| Donaldson, Jeffrey M. | Mackay, rh Andrew |
| Dorrell, rh Stephen | Maclean, rh David |
| Doughty, Sue | McLouglin, Patrick |
| Duncan, Alan (Rutland) | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Duncan Smith, rh lain | Malins, Humfrey |
| Evans, Nigel | Maples, John |
| Ewing, Annabelle | Mates, Michael |
| Fabricant, Michael | Maude, rh Francis |
| Fallon, Michael | Mawhinney, rh Sir Brian |
| Field, Mark (Cities of London & Westminster) | May, Mrs Theresa |
| Mercer, Patrick | |
| Flight, Howard | Mitchell, Andrew (Sutton Coldfield) |
| Flook, Adrian |
| Moore, Michael | Spring, Richard |
| Moss, Malcolm | Stanley, rh Sir John |
| Murrison, Dr. Andrew | Steen, Anthony |
| Norman, Archie | Streeter, Gary |
| Oaten, Mark (Winchester) | Stunell, Andrew |
| O'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury) | Swayne, Desmond |
| Öpik, Lembit | Swire, Hugo (E Devon) |
| Osborne, George (Tatton) | Syms, Robert |
| Ottaway, Richard | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Page, Richard | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Paice, James | Taylor, John (Solihull) |
| Paisley, Rev. Ian | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Paterson, Owen | Taylor, Dr. Richard (Wyre F) |
| Pickles, Eric | Taylor, Sir Teddy |
| Portillo, rh Michael | Teather, Sarah |
| Price, Adam (E Carmarthen & Dinefwr) | Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion) |
| Thurso, John | |
| Prisk, Mark (Hertford) | Tonge, Dr. Jenny |
| Pugh, Dr. John | Tredinnick, David |
| Randall, John | Trend, Michael |
| Redwood, rh John | Trimble, rh David |
| Reid, Alan (Argyll & Bute) | Turner, Andrew (Isle of Wight) |
| Rendel, David | Tyler, Paul (N Cornwall) |
| Robathan, Andrew | Tyrie, Andrew |
| Robertson, Angus (Moray) | Viggers, Peter |
| Robertson, Hugh (Faversham & M-Kent) | Walter, Robert |
| Wareing, Robert N. | |
| Robertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry) | Waterson, Nigel |
| Robinson, Mrs Iris (Strangford) | Watkinson, Angela |
| Robinson, Peter (Belfast E) | Webb, Steve (Northavon) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Weir, Michael |
| Rosindell, Andrew | Whittingdale, John |
| Ruffley, David | Widdecombe, rh Miss Ann |
| Russell, Bob (Colchester) | Wiggin, Bill |
| Salmond, Alex | Wilkinson, John |
| Sanders, Adrian | Willetts, David |
| Sayeed, Jonathan | Williams, Hywel (Caernarfon) |
| Selous, Andrew | Williams, Roger (Brecon) |
| Shephard, rh Mrs Gillian | Wilshire, David |
| Shepherd, Richard | Winterton, Ann (Congleton) |
| Simmonds, Mark | Winterton, Sir Nicholas (Macclesfield) |
| Simpson, Keith (M-Norfolk) | |
| Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns & Kincardine) | Wishart, Pete |
| Young, rh Sir George | |
| Smyth, Rev. Martin (Belfast S) | Younger-Ross, Richard |
| Soames, Nicholas | |
| Spelman, Mrs Caroline | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Spicer, Sir Michael | Mr. Peter Atkinson and |
| Spink, Bob (Castle Point) | Gregory Barker |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
7.34 pm§ Mr. Douglas Hogg (Sleaford and North Hykeham) (Con)On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. The question that will now arise is on the formation of the Standing Committee. Normally, as you know well, the committee of nomination would select the Standing Committee in accordance with party composition. However, you will know from page 693 of "Erskine May" that it is a rule of the House that the strength of opinion as expressed in any Division on Second Reading is properly to be reflected on the Standing Committee. The Government obtained a majority of five on Second Reading. May I suggest that they are therefore entitled to a majority of only one on the Standing Committee; otherwise, the rule in "Erskine May" will not be respected?
§ Mr. Oliver Heald (North-East Hertfordshire) (Con)Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I join in the remarks made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Sleaford and North Hykeham (Mr. Hogg)? Clearly, in such a case the support to be 281 considered is that on the respective Benches in this place. It is clear that, on this occasion, those on the Opposition Benches almost prevailed. It would be quite wrong if the membership of the Committee did not reflect the fact that the vote was very close—the majority on the Committee should be no more than one.
§ Mr. Eric Forth (Bromley and Chislehurst) (Con)Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. Following on from the point made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Sleaford and North Hykeham, I hope that you, in your wisdom and after your deliberations, will feel free to give guidance to the Committee of Selection so that there can be no doubt in its mind as to the wish of the House, as expressed through the Division that we have just had. We must also bear in mind the fact that the guidance in "Erskine May" must be followed on this occasion by the Committee of Selection. It would be an insult to the House were that Committee, for any reason, to decide to compose the Standing Committee so that it has anything other than a very even balance that reflects the vote in the House.
§ Mr. SpeakerI thank the right hon. and learned Member for Sleaford and North Hykeham (Mr. Hogg) for giving notice of his point of order. It is the duty of the Committee of Selection, under Standing Order No. 86, to
have regard to the qualifications of those Members nominated and to the composition of the House".