HC Deb 04 March 2002 vol 381 cc62-5

Amendment made: No. 174, in page 75, line 12, leave out "lay member or" and insert— 'member of the Commission and, unless he is a lay member,'.— [Mr. Browne.]

Amendment proposed: No. 169, in page 4, line 35, at end insert— '(8A) Without prejudice to subsection (8), the Commission must, as far as practicable, exercise its functions to select persons to be appointed or recommended for appointment in order to secure that the judiciary is reflective of the community in Northern Ireland.'.—[Mr. Mallon.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House divided: Ayes 33, Noes 302.

Division No. 176] [6.23 pm
Allan, Richard McNamara, Kevin
Baker, Norman Mallon, Seamus
Beggs, Roy Pugh, Dr John
Beith, Rt Hon A J Rendel, David
Breed, Colin Robertson, Angus (Moray)
Brooke, Mrs Annette L Russell, Bob (Colchester)
Cable, Dr Vincent Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Calton, Mrs Patsy Stunell, Andrew
Campbell, Rt Hon Menzies(NE Fife) Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Tonge, Dr Jenny
Carmichael, Alistair Tyler, Paul
Cotter, Brian Webb, Steve
Doughty, Sue Williams, Hywel (Caernarfon)
Ewing, Annabelle Willis, Phil
Heath, David Younger-Ross, Richard
Hermon, Lady
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) Tellers for the Ayes:
Hume, John Lembit Öpik and
Llwyd, Elfyn Mr. Eddie McGrady.
Abbott, Ms Diane Boateng, Rt Hon Paul
Ainger, Nick Borrow, David
Alexander, Douglas Bradley, Peter (The Wrekin)
Allen, Graham Bradshaw, Ben
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Newcastle E & Wallsend)
Atherton, Ms Candy
Atkins, Charlotte Brown, Russell (Dumfries)
Austin, John Browne, Desmond
Bailey, Adrian Bryant, Chris
Baird, Vera Buck, Ms Karen
Banks, Tony Burden, Richard
Barnes, Harry Burgon, Colin
Barron, Kevin Burnham, Andy
Beard, Nigel Burnside, David
Begg, Miss Anne Cairns, David
Bennett, Andrew Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth)
Benton, Joe Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)
Best, Harold Campbell, Gregory (E Lond'y)
Betts, Clive Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)
Blackman, Liz Caplin, Ivor
Blears, Ms Hazel Casale, Roger
Blizzard, Bob Cash, William
Blunt, Crispin Caton, Martin
Cawsey, Ian Hepburn, Stephen
Challen, Colin Heyes, David
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Hill, Keith
Chaytor, David Hodge, Margaret
Clapham, Michael Hoey, Kate
Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough) Hood, Jimmy
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Hope, Phil
Clarke, Rt Hon Charles(Norwich S) Howarth, Rt Hon Alan (Newport E)
Howarth, George (Knowsley N)
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Hoyle, Lindsay
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Clelland, David Humble, Mrs Joan
Coaker, Vernon Hurst, Alan
Coffey, Ms Ann Hutton, Rt Hon John
Cohen, Harry Iddon, Dr Brian
Coleman, lain Illsley, Eric
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Ingram, Rt Hon Adam
Cooper, Yvette Irranca-Davies, Huw
Corston, Jean Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead)
Crausby, David Jenkins, Brian
Cruddas, Jon Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle)
Cryer, Mrs Ann (Keighley) Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Cryer, John (Hornchurch) Jones, Kevan (N Durham)
Cummings, John Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S)
Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr Jack(Copeland) Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S) Keeble, Ms Sally
Cunningham, Tony (Workington) Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Davidson, Ian Khabra, Piara S
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Kidney, David
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) Kilfoyle, Peter
Davies, Quentin (Grantham) King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Dawson, Hilton King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green)
Dean, Mrs Janet Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Dhanda, Parmjit Knight, Jim (S Dorset)
Dismore, Andrew Kumar, Dr Ashok
Dobbin, Jim Laxton, Bob
Donohoe, Brian H Lepper, David
Doran, Frank Leslie, Christopher
Drew, David Levitt, Tom
Drown, Ms Julia Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) Lewis, Terry (Worsley)
Ellman, Mrs Louise Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Ennis, Jeff Liddell-Grainger, Ian
Farrelly, Paul Linton, Martin
Field, Rt Hon Frank (Birkenhead) Love, Andrew
Fisher, Mark Lucas, Ian
Fitzpatrick, Jim Luff, Peter
Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna Luke, lain
Flint, Caroline McAvoy, Thomas
Follett, Barbara McCabe, Stephen
Foster, Rt Hon Derek McCafferty, Chris
Foster, Michael (Worcester) McCartney, Rt Hon Ian
Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings) McDonagh, Siobhain
Francis, Dr Hywel McDonnell, John
Galloway, George McFall, John
Gardiner, Barry McIsaac, Shona
Garnier, Edward McKechin, Ann
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) McKenna, Rosemary
Gerrard, Neil McNulty, Tony
Gibson, Dr Ian Mactaggart, Fiona
Gilroy, Linda McWalter, Tony
Godsiff, Roger McWilliam, John
Griffiths, Jane (Reading E) Mahmood, Khalid
Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) Mahon, Mrs Alice
Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) Mallaber, Judy
Grogan, John Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter
Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale) Mann, John
Hall, Patrick (Bedford) Marris, Rob
Hanson, David Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)
Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet Martlew, Eric
Harris, Tom (Glasgow Cathcart) Mawhinney, Rt Hon Sir Brian
Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N) Michael, Rt Hon Alun
Hendrick, Mark Miliband, David
Hendry, Charles Miller, Andrew
Mitchell, Andrew (Sutton Coldfield) Singh, Marsha
Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) Skinner, Dennis
Moffatt, Laura Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Mole, Chris Smith, Angela (Basildon)
Moran, Margaret Smith, Rt Hon Chris (Islington S)
Mortey, Elliot Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe)
Mudie, George Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Mullin, Chris Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)
Munn, Ms Meg Soley, Clive
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) Southworth, Helen
Murphy, Jim (Eastwood) Spink, Bob
Naysmith, Dr Doug Starkey, Dr Phyllis
Norris, Dan Steinberg, Gerry
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) Stevenson, George
O'Brien, Mike (N Warks) Stewart, David (Inverness E)
O'Neill, Martin Stinchcombe, Paul
Organ, Diana Stringer, Graham
Owen, Albert Swayne, Desmond
Paisley, Rev Ian Tami, Mark
Palmer, Dr Nick Taylor, Rt Hon Ann (Dewsbury)
Pearson, Ian Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
Perham, Linda Taylor, David (NW Leics)
Pickthall, Colin Taylor, John (Solihull)
Plaskitt, James Taylor, Sir Teddy
Pollard, Kerry Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
Pond, Chris Tipping, Paddy
Pound, Stephen Trickett, Jon
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) Turner, Andrew (Isle of Wight)
Prescott, Rt Hon John Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Prosser, Gwyn Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Purchase Ken Turner, Neil(Wigan)
Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Purnell, James Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Quinn, Lawrie Tynan, Bill
Rapson, Syd Walley, Ms Joan
Reed, Andy (Loughborough) Ward, Ms Claire
Reid, Rt Hon Dr John (Hamilton N) Wareing, Robert N
Robertson, John(Glasgow Anniesland) Watson, Tom
Watts, David
Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW) White, Brian
Roche, Mrs Barbara Whitehead, Dr Alan
Rooney, Terry Wicks, Malcolm
Rosindell, Andrew Williams. Rt Hon Alan(Swansea W)
Ross, Ernie
Roy, Frank Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Ruane, Chris Wills, Michael
Ruddock, Joan Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Ryan, Joan Woodward, Shaun
Salter, Martin Woolas, Phil
Sawford, Phil Wray, James
Sedgemore, Brian Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Shaw, Jonathan Wright, Tony(Cannock)
Sheerman, Barry Wyatt, Derek
Shepherd, Richard
Sheridan, Jim Tellers for the Noes:
Shipley, Ms Debra Mr. Gerry Sutcliffe and
Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S) Mr. John Heppell.

Question accordingly negatived.

Mr. Forth

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Can you confirm that there is nothing to prevent a Minister from approaching the Chair, even at this stage in our proceedings, and requesting that a statement be scheduled at the conclusion of our business at 10 o'clock? This is an important Bill, and I could understand Ministers not wanting to interrupt our consideration of it, but you will be aware that here has been some fresh news concerning the suspension on full pay of the head of media at the Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions—a matter referred to by the Secretary of State in his statement last week—and I wondered whether you could confirm, to help Ministers, that there is no procedural obstacle to a statement being scheduled for 10 o'clock, to keep the House informed of developments.

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Alan Haselhurst)

The right hon. Gentleman has been helpful in setting out that point, and there is very little that I can add, other than that the Speaker would have to be consulted about any such arrangement.

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