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Amendment made: No. 174, in page 75, line 12, leave out "lay member or" and insert—
'member of the Commission and, unless he is a lay member,'.— [Mr. Browne.]
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Amendment proposed: No. 169, in page 4, line 35, at end insert—
'(8A) Without prejudice to subsection (8), the Commission must, as far as practicable, exercise its functions to select persons to be appointed or recommended for appointment in order to secure that the judiciary is reflective of the community in Northern Ireland.'.—[Mr. Mallon.]
§ Question put, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 33, Noes 302.
64| Division No. 176] | [6.23 pm |
| ayes | |
| Allan, Richard | McNamara, Kevin |
| Baker, Norman | Mallon, Seamus |
| Beggs, Roy | Pugh, Dr John |
| Beith, Rt Hon A J | Rendel, David |
| Breed, Colin | Robertson, Angus (Moray) |
| Brooke, Mrs Annette L | Russell, Bob (Colchester) |
| Cable, Dr Vincent | Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns) |
| Calton, Mrs Patsy | Stunell, Andrew |
| Campbell, Rt Hon Menzies(NE Fife) | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Tonge, Dr Jenny | |
| Carmichael, Alistair | Tyler, Paul |
| Cotter, Brian | Webb, Steve |
| Doughty, Sue | Williams, Hywel (Caernarfon) |
| Ewing, Annabelle | Willis, Phil |
| Heath, David | Younger-Ross, Richard |
| Hermon, Lady | |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Hume, John | Lembit Öpik and |
| Llwyd, Elfyn | Mr. Eddie McGrady. |
| noes | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Boateng, Rt Hon Paul |
| Ainger, Nick | Borrow, David |
| Alexander, Douglas | Bradley, Peter (The Wrekin) |
| Allen, Graham | Bradshaw, Ben |
| Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary | Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Newcastle E & Wallsend) |
| Atherton, Ms Candy | |
| Atkins, Charlotte | Brown, Russell (Dumfries) |
| Austin, John | Browne, Desmond |
| Bailey, Adrian | Bryant, Chris |
| Baird, Vera | Buck, Ms Karen |
| Banks, Tony | Burden, Richard |
| Barnes, Harry | Burgon, Colin |
| Barron, Kevin | Burnham, Andy |
| Beard, Nigel | Burnside, David |
| Begg, Miss Anne | Cairns, David |
| Bennett, Andrew | Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) |
| Benton, Joe | Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) |
| Best, Harold | Campbell, Gregory (E Lond'y) |
| Betts, Clive | Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) |
| Blackman, Liz | Caplin, Ivor |
| Blears, Ms Hazel | Casale, Roger |
| Blizzard, Bob | Cash, William |
| Blunt, Crispin | Caton, Martin |
| Cawsey, Ian | Hepburn, Stephen |
| Challen, Colin | Heyes, David |
| Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) | Hill, Keith |
| Chaytor, David | Hodge, Margaret |
| Clapham, Michael | Hoey, Kate |
| Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough) | Hood, Jimmy |
| Clark, Paul (Gillingham) | Hope, Phil |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Charles(Norwich S) | Howarth, Rt Hon Alan (Newport E) |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) | Hoyle, Lindsay |
| Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Clelland, David | Humble, Mrs Joan |
| Coaker, Vernon | Hurst, Alan |
| Coffey, Ms Ann | Hutton, Rt Hon John |
| Cohen, Harry | Iddon, Dr Brian |
| Coleman, lain | Illsley, Eric |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Ingram, Rt Hon Adam |
| Cooper, Yvette | Irranca-Davies, Huw |
| Corston, Jean | Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead) |
| Crausby, David | Jenkins, Brian |
| Cruddas, Jon | Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle) |
| Cryer, Mrs Ann (Keighley) | Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) |
| Cryer, John (Hornchurch) | Jones, Kevan (N Durham) |
| Cummings, John | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S) |
| Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr Jack(Copeland) | Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa |
| Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | |
| Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S) | Keeble, Ms Sally |
| Cunningham, Tony (Workington) | Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston) |
| Davidson, Ian | Khabra, Piara S |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Kidney, David |
| Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Davies, Quentin (Grantham) | King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth) |
| Dawson, Hilton | King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green) |
| Dean, Mrs Janet | Kirkbride, Miss Julie |
| Dhanda, Parmjit | Knight, Jim (S Dorset) |
| Dismore, Andrew | Kumar, Dr Ashok |
| Dobbin, Jim | Laxton, Bob |
| Donohoe, Brian H | Lepper, David |
| Doran, Frank | Leslie, Christopher |
| Drew, David | Levitt, Tom |
| Drown, Ms Julia | Lewis, Ivan (Bury S) |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E) |
| Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) | Lewis, Terry (Worsley) |
| Ellman, Mrs Louise | Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen |
| Ennis, Jeff | Liddell-Grainger, Ian |
| Farrelly, Paul | Linton, Martin |
| Field, Rt Hon Frank (Birkenhead) | Love, Andrew |
| Fisher, Mark | Lucas, Ian |
| Fitzpatrick, Jim | Luff, Peter |
| Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna | Luke, lain |
| Flint, Caroline | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Follett, Barbara | McCabe, Stephen |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | McCafferty, Chris |
| Foster, Michael (Worcester) | McCartney, Rt Hon Ian |
| Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings) | McDonagh, Siobhain |
| Francis, Dr Hywel | McDonnell, John |
| Galloway, George | McFall, John |
| Gardiner, Barry | McIsaac, Shona |
| Garnier, Edward | McKechin, Ann |
| George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) | McKenna, Rosemary |
| Gerrard, Neil | McNulty, Tony |
| Gibson, Dr Ian | Mactaggart, Fiona |
| Gilroy, Linda | McWalter, Tony |
| Godsiff, Roger | McWilliam, John |
| Griffiths, Jane (Reading E) | Mahmood, Khalid |
| Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Mallaber, Judy |
| Grogan, John | Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter |
| Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale) | Mann, John |
| Hall, Patrick (Bedford) | Marris, Rob |
| Hanson, David | Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) |
| Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet | Martlew, Eric |
| Harris, Tom (Glasgow Cathcart) | Mawhinney, Rt Hon Sir Brian |
| Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N) | Michael, Rt Hon Alun |
| Hendrick, Mark | Miliband, David |
| Hendry, Charles | Miller, Andrew |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Sutton Coldfield) | Singh, Marsha |
| Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Moffatt, Laura | Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Mole, Chris | Smith, Angela (Basildon) |
| Moran, Margaret | Smith, Rt Hon Chris (Islington S) |
| Mortey, Elliot | Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe) |
| Mudie, George | Smith, Jacqui (Redditch) |
| Mullin, Chris | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| Munn, Ms Meg | Soley, Clive |
| Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) | Southworth, Helen |
| Murphy, Jim (Eastwood) | Spink, Bob |
| Naysmith, Dr Doug | Starkey, Dr Phyllis |
| Norris, Dan | Steinberg, Gerry |
| O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) | Stevenson, George |
| O'Brien, Mike (N Warks) | Stewart, David (Inverness E) |
| O'Neill, Martin | Stinchcombe, Paul |
| Organ, Diana | Stringer, Graham |
| Owen, Albert | Swayne, Desmond |
| Paisley, Rev Ian | Tami, Mark |
| Palmer, Dr Nick | Taylor, Rt Hon Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Pearson, Ian | Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S) |
| Perham, Linda | Taylor, David (NW Leics) |
| Pickthall, Colin | Taylor, John (Solihull) |
| Plaskitt, James | Taylor, Sir Teddy |
| Pollard, Kerry | Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W) |
| Pond, Chris | Tipping, Paddy |
| Pound, Stephen | Trickett, Jon |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) | Turner, Andrew (Isle of Wight) |
| Prescott, Rt Hon John | Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE) |
| Prosser, Gwyn | Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown) |
| Purchase Ken | Turner, Neil(Wigan) |
| Twigg, Derek (Halton) | |
| Purnell, James | Twigg, Stephen (Enfield) |
| Quinn, Lawrie | Tynan, Bill |
| Rapson, Syd | Walley, Ms Joan |
| Reed, Andy (Loughborough) | Ward, Ms Claire |
| Reid, Rt Hon Dr John (Hamilton N) | Wareing, Robert N |
| Robertson, John(Glasgow Anniesland) | Watson, Tom |
| Watts, David | |
| Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW) | White, Brian |
| Roche, Mrs Barbara | Whitehead, Dr Alan |
| Rooney, Terry | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Rosindell, Andrew | Williams. Rt Hon Alan(Swansea W) |
| Ross, Ernie | |
| Roy, Frank | Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy) |
| Ruane, Chris | Wills, Michael |
| Ruddock, Joan | Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C) |
| Ryan, Joan | Woodward, Shaun |
| Salter, Martin | Woolas, Phil |
| Sawford, Phil | Wray, James |
| Sedgemore, Brian | Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth) |
| Shaw, Jonathan | Wright, Tony(Cannock) |
| Sheerman, Barry | Wyatt, Derek |
| Shepherd, Richard | |
| Sheridan, Jim | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Shipley, Ms Debra | Mr. Gerry Sutcliffe and |
| Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S) | Mr. John Heppell. |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
§ Mr. ForthOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Can you confirm that there is nothing to prevent a Minister from approaching the Chair, even at this stage in our proceedings, and requesting that a statement be scheduled at the conclusion of our business at 10 o'clock? This is an important Bill, and I could understand Ministers not wanting to interrupt our consideration of it, but you will be aware that here has been some fresh news concerning the suspension on full pay of the head of media at the Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions—a matter referred to by the Secretary of State in his statement last week—and I wondered whether 65 you could confirm, to help Ministers, that there is no procedural obstacle to a statement being scheduled for 10 o'clock, to keep the House informed of developments.
§ Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Alan Haselhurst)The right hon. Gentleman has been helpful in setting out that point, and there is very little that I can add, other than that the Speaker would have to be consulted about any such arrangement.