§ Lords amendment: No. 110.
§ Motion made, and Question put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment—[Mrs. McGuire.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 242, Noes 133.
| Division No. 314] | [7.2 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Bob (Cov'try NE) | Burden, Richard |
| Alexander, Douglas | Burnham, Andy |
| Allen, Graham | Cairns, David |
| Atherton, Ms Candy | Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) |
| Atkins, Charlotte | Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) |
| Bailey, Adrian | Caplin, Ivor |
| Baird, Vera | Casale, Roger |
| Banks, Tony | Caton, Martin |
| Barnes, Harry | Challen, Colin |
| Battle, John | Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) |
| Bayley, Hugh | Chaytor, David |
| Beggs, Roy | Clapham, Michael |
| Bell, Stuart | Clark, Dr Lynda |
| Benn, Hilary | (Edinburgh Pentlands) |
| Benton, Joe | Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) |
| Best, Harold | Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) |
| Betts, Clive | Clwyd, Ann |
| Blackman, Liz | Coffey, Ms Ann |
| Blizzard, Bob | Cohen, Harry |
| Blunkett, Rt Hon David | Coleman, lain |
| Borrow, David | Colman, Tony |
| Bradshaw, Ben | Cook, Frank (Stockton N) |
| Brennan, Kevin | Cook, Rt Hon Robin (Livingston) |
| Buck, Ms Karen | Cooper, Yvette |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Kumar, Dr Ashok |
| Corston, Jean | Lammy, David |
| Cousins, Jim | Lawrence, Mrs Jackie |
| Cranston, Ross | Laxton, Bob |
| Crausby, David | Lazarowicz, Mark |
| Cruddas, Jon | Lepper, David |
| Cryer, John (Hornchurch) | Linton, Martin |
| Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S) | Love, Andrew |
| Curtis—Thomas, Mrs Claire | Lucas, Ian |
| Darling, Rt Hon Alistair | Lyons, John |
| Davey, Valerie (Bristol W) | McAvoy, Thomas |
| David, Wayne | McCabe, Stephen |
| Davidson, Ian | McCafferty, Chris |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | McDonagh, Siobhain |
| Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) | McFall, John |
| Davis, Rt Hon Terry | McGuire, Mrs Anne |
| (B'ham Hodge H) | McIsaac, Shona |
| Dawson, Hilton | McKechin, Ann |
| Dean, Mrs Janet | McKenna, Rosemary |
| Dismore, Andrew | MacShane, Denis |
| Dobbin, Jim | Mallaber, Judy |
| Dodds, Nigel | Mann, John |
| Donohoe, Brian H | Marris, Rob |
| Dowd, Jim | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Drown, Ms Julia | Meale, Alan |
| Eagle, Angela (Wallasey) | Merron, Gillian |
| Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) | Michael, Rt Hon Alun |
| Ennis, Jeff | Miliband, David |
| Farrelly, Paul | Miller, Andrew |
| Field, Rt Hon Frank (Birkenhead) | Moffatt, Laura |
| Fisher, Mark | Mole, Chris |
| Fitzpatrick, Jim | Morgan, Julie |
| Flint, Caroline | Mountford, Kali |
| Flynn, Paul | Mudie, George |
| Follett, Barbara | Mullin, Chris |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Munn, Ms Meg |
| Foster, Michael (Worcester) | Murphy, Jim (Eastwood) |
| Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings) | Naysmith, Dr Doug |
| Francis, Dr Hywel | O'Brien, Mike (N Warks) |
| Gapes, Mike | O'Hara, Edward |
| George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) | Olner, Bill |
| Gerrard, Neil | O'Neill, Martin |
| Gilroy, Linda | Organ, Diana |
| Griffiths, Jane (Reading E) | Osborne, Sandra (Ayr) |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Owen, Albert |
| Grogan, John | Palmer, Dr Nick |
| Hamilton, David (Midlothian) | Pearson, Ian |
| Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE) | Perham, Linda |
| Harris, Tom (Glasgow Cathcart) | Picking, Anne |
| Havard, Dai | Pike, Peter |
| Hendrick, Mark | Plaskitt, James |
| Heppell, John | Pound, Stephen |
| Hesford, Stephen | Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) |
| Hill, Keith | Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) |
| Hoey, Kate | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Hopkins, Kelvin | Prosser, Gwyn |
| Hughes, Beverley (Stretford) | Purchase, Ken |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Purnell, James |
| Hutton, Rt Hon John | Quin, Rt Hon Joyce |
| Iddon, Dr Brian | Quinn, Lawrie |
| Insley, Eric | Rammell, Bill |
| Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead) | Rapson, Syd |
| Jamieson, David | Reed, Andy (Loughborough) |
| Jenkins, Brian | Reid, Rt Hon Dr John (Hamilton N) |
| Jones, Helen (Warrington N) | Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW) |
| Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) | Ross, Emie |
| Jones, Kevan (N Durham) | Roy, Frank |
| Jones, Marlyn (Clwyd S) | Ruddock, Joan |
| Keeble, Ms Sally | Ryan, Joan |
| Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston) | Satter, Martin |
| Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth) | Sarwar, Mohammad |
| Khabra, Piara S | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Kidney, David | Shaw, Jonathan |
| Kilftoyle, Peter | Sheridan, Jim |
| King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green) | Simon, Siôn |
| Knight, Jim (S Dorset) | Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S) |
| Skinner, Dennis | Turner, Neil (Wigan) |
| Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E) | Twigg, Derek (Halton) |
| Smith, Rt Hon Chris (Islington S) | Twigg, Stephen (Enfield) |
| Smith, Jacqui (Redditch) | Tynan, Bill |
| Smith, John (Glamorgan) | Vis, Dr Rudi |
| Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) | Ward, Claire |
| Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S) | Wareing, Robert N |
| Spellar, Rt Hon John | Watson, Tom |
| Steinberg, Gerry | Watts, David |
| Stewart, Ian (Eccles) | White, Brian |
| Stinchcombe, Paul | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Stoate, Dr Howard | Winnick, David |
| Sutcliffe, Gerry | Winterlon, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C) |
| Taylor, Rt Hon Ann (Dewsbury) | Wood, Mike |
| Thomas, Gareth (Clwyd W) | Woodward, Shaun |
| Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion) | Worthington, Tony |
| Timms, Stephen | Wray, James |
| Tipping, Paddy | Wright, David (Telford) |
| Todd, Mark | Wright, Tony (Cannock) |
| Touhig, Don | Wyatt, Derek |
| Trickett, Jon | |
| Truswell, Paul | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Turner, Dennis (Wolyerh'ton SE) | Dan Norris and |
| Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown) | Mr. Nick Ainger. |
| NOES | |
| Amess, David | Grayling, Chris |
| Arbuthnot, Rt Hon James | Green, Damian (Ashford) |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mth E) | Green, Matthew (Ludlow) |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Grieve, Dominic |
| Baker, Norman | Gummer, Rt Hon John |
| Barker, Gregory | Hammond, Philip |
| Bercow, John | Hancock, Mike |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Hawkins, Nick |
| Boswell, Tim | Hayes, John |
| Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W) | Heath, David |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Heathcoat—Amory, Rt Hon David |
| Brady, Graham | Hendry, Charles |
| Brazier, Julian | Hoban, Mark |
| Brooke, Mrs Annette L | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Browning, Mrs Angela | Holmes, Paul |
| Bumett, John | Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) |
| Butterfill, John | Jack, Rt Hon Michael |
| Calton, Mrs Patsy | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Cameron, David | Johnson Boris (Henley) |
| Campbell, Rt Hon Menzies | Keetch, Paul |
| (NE Fife) | Key, Robert |
| Carmichael, Alistair | Kirkbride, Miss Julie |
| Cash, William | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Chapman, Sir Sydney | Lansley, Andrew |
| (Chipping Bamet) | Leigh, Edward |
| Chidgey, David | Letwin,Oliver |
| Chope, Christopher | Liddle—Grainger, Ian |
| Clifton—Brown, Geoffrey | Loughton, Tim |
| Collins, Tim | Luff, Peter |
| Cran, James | McIntosh, Miss Anne |
| Curry, Rt Hon David | MacKay, Rt Hon Andrew |
| Davey, Edward (Kingston) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Davies, Quentin (Grantham) | Mains, Humfrey |
| Djanogly, Jonathan | Mates, Michael |
| Doughty, Sue | Maude, Rt Hon Francis |
| Duncan, Alan (Rutland & Melton) | Mawhinney, Rt Hon Sir Brian |
| Duncan, Peter (Galloway) | May, Mrs Theresa |
| Evans, Nigel | Mercer, Patrick |
| Fallon, Michael | Moss, Malcolm |
| Field, Mark (Cities of London) | Murrison, Dr Andrew |
| Flight, Howard | Öpik, Lembit |
| Forth, Rt Hon Eric | Osborne, George (Talton) |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Ottaway, Richard |
| Fox, Dr Liam | Page, Richard |
| Francois, Mark | Paice, James |
| Garnier, Edward | Paterson, Owen |
| Gibb, Nick | Pickles, Eric |
| Gidley, Sandra | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Goodman, Paul | Pugh, Dr John |
| Gray, James | Randall, John |
| Redwood, Rt Hon John | Taylor, Sir Teddy |
| Rendel, David | Tonge, Dr Jenny |
| Robathan, Andrew | Trend, Michael |
| Robertson, Hugh (Faversham) | Tumer, Andrew (Isle of Wight) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Tyrie, Andrew |
| Rosindell, Andrew | Viggers, Peter |
| Ruffley, David | Waterson, Nigel |
| Russell, Bob (Colchester) | Watkinson, Angela |
| Selous, Andrew | Wiggin, Bill |
| Simmonds, Mark | Willetts, David |
| Spicer, Sir Michael | Wilshire, David |
| Spink, Bob | Winterton, Ann (Congleton) |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Winterton, Sir Nicholas |
| Steen, Anthony | (Macclesfield) |
| Streeter, Gary | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Stunell, Andrew | Younger—Ross, Richard |
| Swayne, Desmond | |
| Swire, Hugo | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Syms, Robert | Mr. Stephen O'Brien and |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher & Walton) | Mr. Laurence Robertson. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Lords amendment disagreed to.
§ Mr. Eric Forth (Bromley and Chislehurst)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. I will take points of order after I have finished putting the Questions.
Lords amendments Nos. 113 and 166 disagreed to.
Subsequent Lords amendments agreed to [some with Special Entry].
Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments to the Bill: Mr. Bob Ainsworth, Norman Baker, Mr. Dominic Grieve, Mr. John Heppell, Dr. Howard Stoate and Mr. David Wilshire; Mr. Bob Ainsworth to be Chairman of the Committee; Three to be the quorum of the Committee.—[Mr. Heppell.]
To withdraw immediately.
Reasons fir disagreeing to certain Lords amendments reported, and agreed to; to be communicated to the Lords.
§ Mr. ForthOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. You said a few moments ago that you would take no more points of order. I am troubled about that because, as you know, in the House hon. Members are usually free to make points of order, and the Chair hears points of order. Can you help the House and help me certainly by clarifying whether there is any deeper significance in what you said, or whether it was specific to the circumstances in which you said it?
Mr. Deputy SpeakerPerhaps I can answer the right hon. Gentleman's question directly. At the point when he raised the point of order, it was the responsibility of the Chair to put all the questions necessary to be put at that time. That is laid down by the House.
§ Mr. David Wilshire (Spelthorne)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. At Prime Minister's Question Time yesterday, the Prime Minister alleged that the Conservative party was opposed to the Proceeds of Crime Bill. It is undoubtedly the case, in my opinion, that that statement was directed at our support for what is known as the Lloyd amendment. That amendment was voted on a few moments ago without any opportunity to demonstrate that the Prime 534 Minister was completely and utterly wrong in his allegation, and that our purpose in opposing the Government today was simply to make it clear that we are trying to improve the Bill. We were denied the right to put that on the record. What remedy do we have when the Prime Minister makes allegations that are not correct?