HC Deb 26 November 2001 vol 375 cc784-90

1 The Police (Scotland) Act 1967 has effect subject to the following amendments.

2 (1) Section 11 (aid of one police force by another) is amended as follows.

(2) In subsection (2), for "Secretary of State" substitute "appropriate Minister or Ministers" and after "he" insert "or they".

(3) In subsection (4), for "Secretary of State" substitute "appropriate Ministers".

(4) After that subsection insert—

"(5) This section shall apply in relation to the Strategic Rail Authority and the British Transport Police Force as it applies to a police authority and a police force respectively.

(6) In subsection (2) "appropriate Minister or Ministers" means—

  1. (a) in relation to a direction given to the Chief Constable of the British Transport Police Force, the Secretary of State, and
  2. (b) in any other case, the Scottish Ministers.

(7) In subsection (4) "appropriate Ministers" means—

  1. (a) where the police authorities concerned include the Strategic Rail Authority, the Scottish Ministers and the Secretary of State, acting jointly, and
  2. (b) in any other case, the Scottish Ministers."

3 (1) Section 12 (collaboration agreements) is amended as follows.

(2) In subsection (3), for "Secretary of State" substitute "Scottish Ministers".

(3) For subsection (5) substitute—

"(5) If it appears to the Scottish Ministers that an agreement should be made for the purposes specified in subsection (1), (2) or (4) of this section, they may, after considering any representations made by the parties concerned, direct those parties to enter into such agreement for that purpose as may be specified in the directions.

(6) For the purposes of this section—

  1. (a) the British Transport Police Force shall be treated as if it were a police force;
  2. (b) "police functions" shall include the functions of the British Transport Police Force;
  3. (c) the British Transport Police Committee shall be treated as if it were the police authority maintaining that Force for the purposes of subsections (1) and (2) of this section; and the Strategic Rail Authority shall be so treated for the purposes of subsection (3) of this section; and
  4. (d) "police area", in relation to the British Transport Police Force and the British Transport Police Committee, means those places where members of the British Transport Police Force have the powers, protection and privileges of a constable under section 53(4) of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix).

(7) In relation to agreements relating to the British Transport Police Force, any determination under subsection (3) shall be made, and any directions under subsection (5) shall be given, by the Scottish Ministers and the Secretary of State, acting jointly."

4 (1) Section 17 (general functions and jurisdiction of constables) is amended as follows.

(2) After subsection (4) insert—

"(4A) A member of the British Transport Police Force who is for the time being required by virtue of section 11 or 12 of this Act to serve with a police force shall—

  1. (a) have all the powers and privileges of a constable of that police force, and
  2. (b) be subject to the direction of the chief constable of that force."

(3) In subsection (7)(a) after "first—mentioned force" insert "or, if he is serving with the British Transport Police Force, the Chief Constable of that Force".

5 (1) Section 42 (causing disaffection) is amended as follows.

(2) In subsection (1), after "force" insert "or of the British Transport Police Force".

(3) In subsection (2), after "constable" insert "or a member of the British Transport Police Force".

6 (1) Section 43 (impersonation etc.) is amended as follows.

(2) After subsection (2) insert—

"(2A) For the purposes of this section—

  1. (a) "constable" includes a member of the British Transport Police Force, and
  2. (b) any reference to "police" includes a reference to that force."

(3) In subsection (3), after "police authority" insert "or by the British Transport Police Committee".

(4) After that subsection insert— (4) In its application to articles of British Transport Police Force uniform, subsection (1)(b) has effect as if for the words "without the permission of the police authority for the police area in which he is" were substituted the words "in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a constable as to be calculated to deceive". 7 In section 51 (interpretation), after the definition of "amalgamation scheme" insert— "British Transport Police Force' means the constables appointed under section 53 of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix);".'. No. 77, in page 109, line 38, leave out from "(11)" to end of line 42 and insert— '(a) before the definition of "dangerous instruments" insert— "British Transport Police Force" means the constables appointed under section 53 of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix)", and (b) after the definition of "offensive weapon" insert— "policed premises", in relation to England and Wales, has the meaning given by section 53(3) of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix) and, in relation to Scotland, means those places where members of the British Transport Police Force have the powers, protection and privileges of a constable under section 53(4)(a) of that Act (as it relates to Scotland).".'. No. 78, in page 111, line 14, at end insert— '20A In section 105(2) (extent), after the entry relating to section 21 insert "section 25(1A)".'. No. 79, in page 111, line 24, leave out from "premises" to "by" in line 25.

No. 80, in page 111, line 40, leave out from "premises" to end of line 42.

No. 81, in page 112, line 4. leave out from "premises" to ", an" in line 6.

No. 82, in page 112, line 17, leave out from "121" to end of line 19 and insert— '(a) after the definition of "article" insert— "British Transport Police Force" means the constables appointed under section 53 of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix)," and (b) after the definition of "organisation" insert— "policed premises", in relation to England and Wales, has the meaning given by section 53(3) of the British Transport Commission Act 1949 (c. xxix) and, in relation to Scotland, means those places where members of the British Transport Police Force have the powers, protection and privileges of a constable under section 53(4)(a) of that Act (as it relates to Scotland).".'. No. 128, in page 112, line 22, at end add 'and (b) after the entry relating to the expression "organisation" insert— "Policed premises Section 121".'. [Dr. Moonie.]

Schedule 7, as amended, agreed to

Motion made, and Question put, That clauses 101 to 105, 120 and 121 stand part of the Bill, that schedule 8 be the Eighth schedule to the Bill, and that clause 122 stand part of the Bill:—

The Committee divided: Ayes 340, Noes 65.

Division No.84] [11.5 pm
AYES
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N) Cousins, Jim
Ainger, Nick Cox, Tom
Ainsworth, Bob (Cov'try NE) Cranston, Ross
Allen, Graham Crausby, David
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E) Cruddas, Jon
Cummings, John
Anderson, Janet (Rossendale) Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr Jack (Copeland)
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary
Atherton, Ms Candy Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S)
Atkins, Charlotte Cunningham, Tony (Workington)
Austin, John Curtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire
Bailey, Adrian Dalyell, Tam
Baird, Vera Darling, Rt Hon Alistair
Banks, Tony Davey, Valerie (Bristol W)
Barnes, Harry Davidson, Ian
Barron, Kevin Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Beard, Nigel Davies, Geraint (Croydon C)
Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret Dean, Mrs Janet
Begg, Miss Anne Denham, Rt Hon John
Benn, Hilary Dhanda, Parmjit
Benton, Joe Dismore, Andrew
Berry, Roger Donohoe, Brian H
Best, Harold Doran, Frank
Betts, Clive Dowd, Jim
Blackman, Liz Drew, David
Blears, Ms Hazel Eagle, Angela (Wallasey)
Blizzard, Bob Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)
Blunkett, Rt Hon David Edwards, Huw
Borrow, David Efford, Clive
Bradley, Rt Hon Keith (Withington) Ellman, Mrs Louise
Bradley, Peter (The Wrekin) Ennis, Jeff
Bradshaw, Ben Farrelly, Paul
Brennan, Kevin Field, Rt Hon Frank (Birkenhead)
Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Newcastle E & Waltsend) Fisher, Mark
Fitzsimons, Mrs Loma
Brown, Russell (Dumfries) Flint, Caroline
Browne, Desmond Flynn, Paul
Bryant, Chris Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Buck, Ms Karen Foster, Michael (Worcester)
Burden, Richard Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings)
Burnham, Andy Foulkes, George
Byers, Rt Hon Stephen Francis, Dr Hywel
Caborn, Rt Hon Richard Gapes, Mike
Cairns, David Gardiner, Barry
Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S)
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Gerrard, Neil
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Gibson, Dr Ian
Caplin, Ivor Gilroy, Linda
Caton, Martin Godsiff, Roger
Cawsey, Ian Goggins, Paul
Challen, Colin Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Chaytor, David Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough) Grogan, John
Clark, Dr Lynda (Edinburgh Pentlands) Hain, Rt Hon Peter
Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Hall, Patrick (Bedford)
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Hamilton, David (Midlothian)
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Clelland, David Hanson, David
Coaker, Vernon Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Coffey, Ms Ann Havard, Dai
Cohen, Harry Healey, John
Colman, Tony Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Cook, Rt Hon Robin (Livingston) Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Corston, Jean Hepburn, Stephen
Heppell, John McWilliam, John
Hermon, Lady Mahmood, Khalid
Hesford, Stephen Mallaber, Judy
Hewitt, Rt Hon Ms Patricia Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter
Heyes, David Mann, John
Hill, Keith Marris, Rob
Hodge, Margaret Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)
Hoon, Rt Hon Geoffrey Marshall, David (Shettleston)
Hope, Phil Martlew, Eric
Hopkins, Kelvin Mates, Michael
Howarth, Rt Hon Alan (Newport E) Meacher, Rt Hon Michael
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Merron, Gillian
Hoyle, Lindsay Michael, Rt Hon Alun
Hughes, Beverley (Stretford) Milburn, Rt Hon Alan
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) Miliband, David
Humble, Mrs Joan Miller, Andrew
Hurst, Alan Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby)
Hutton, Rt Hon John Moffatt, Laura
Iddon, Dr Brian Moonie, Dr Lewis
Illsley, Eric Moran, Margaret
Ingram, Rt Hon Adam Morris, Rt Hon Estelle
Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead) Mountford, Kali
Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough) Mudie, George
Jamieson, David Mullin, Chris
Jenkins, Brian Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)
Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle) Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen)
Jones, Helen (Warrington N) Naysmith, Dr Doug
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)
Jones, Kevan (N Durham) O'Brien, Mike (N Warks)
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S) O'Hara, Edward
Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa Olner, Bill
Joyce, Eric O'Neill, Martin
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Organ, Diana
Keeble, Ms Sally Osborne, Sandra (Ayr)
Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston) Owen, Albert
Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth) Palmer, Dr Nick
Kelly, Ruth Pearson, Ian
Kemp, Fraser Perham, Linda
Kennedy, Jane (Wavertree) Picking, Anne
Kidney, David Pickthall, Colin
Kilfoyle, Peter Pike, Peter
King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth) Plaskitt, James
Knight, Jim (S Dorset) Pond, Chris
Kumar, Dr Ashok Pope, Greg
Ladyman, Dr Stephen Pound, Stephen
Lammy, David Powell, Sir Raymond
Lawrence, Mrs Jackie Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)
Laxton, Bob Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Lazarowicz, Mark Primarob, Dawn
Lepper, David Prosser, Gwyn
Leslie, Christopher Purchase, Ken
Levitt, Tom Purnell, James
Lewis, Ivan (Bury S) Quin, Rt Hon Joyce
Lewis, Terry (Worsley) Quinn, Lawrie
Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen Rammell, Bill
Linton, Martin Rapson, Syd
Lloyd, Tony Raynsford, Rt Hon Nick
Love, Andrew Reed, Andy (Loughborough)
Luke, Iain Reid, Rt Hon Dr John (Hamilton N)
Lyons, John Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)
McAvoy, Thomas
McCabe, Stephen Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW)
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian Roche, Mrs Barbara
McDonagh, Siobhain Rooney, Terry
MacDonald, Calum Ross, Ernie
MacDougall, John Roy, Frank
McFall, John Ruane, Chris
McGuire, Mrs Anne Ruddock, Joan
McIsaac, Shona Russell, Ms Christine (Chester)
McKechin, Ann Ryan, Joan
McKenna, Rosemary Satter, Martin
Mackinlay, Andrew Sarwar, Mohammad
McNulty, Tony Savidge, Malcolm
MacShane, Denis Sawford, Phil
Mactaggart, Fiona Shaw, Jonathan
McWalter, Tony Sheerman, Barry
Sheridan, Jim Trickett, Jon
Shipley, Ms Debra Truswell, Paul
Short, Rt Hon Clare Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Simon, Siôn Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S) Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Skinner, Dennis Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Smith, Rt Hon Chris (Islington S) Walley, Ms Joan
Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe) Ward, Ms Claire
Smith, Jacqui (Redditch) Wareing, Robert N
Smith, John (Glamorgan) Watson, Tom
Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) Watts, David
Southworth, Helen White, Brian
Spellar, Rt Hon John Whitehead, Dr Alan
Squire, Rachel Wicks, Malcolm
Starkey, Dr Phyllis Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Steinberg, Gerry
Stevenson, George Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Stewart, David (Inverness E) Wills, Michael
Stewart, Ian (Eccles) Wilson, Brian
Stinchcombe, Paul Winnick, David
Stoate, Dr Howard Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin Wood, Mike
Stringer, Graham Woodward, Shaun
Stuart, Ms Gisela Woolas, Phil
Tami, Mark Wray, James
Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S) Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Taylor, David (NW Leics) Wright, David (Telford)
Thomas, Gareth (Clwyd W) Wright, Tony (Cannock)
Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W) Wyatt, Derek
Timms, Stephen
Tipping, Paddy Tellers for the Ayes:
Todd, Mark Angela Smith and
Touhig, Don Jim Fitzpatrick.
NOES
Allan, Richard Lamb, Norman
Baker, Norman Laws, David
Barrett, John Llwyd, Elfyn
Beith, Rt Hon A J McNamara, Kevin
Brake, Tom Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury)
Breed, Colin Mates, Michael
Bruce, Malcolm Moore, Michael
Burnett, John Oaten, Mark
Cable, Dr Vincent Öpik, Lembit
Calton, Mrs Patsy Paisley, Rev Ian
Campbell, Rt Hon Menzies (NE Fife) Price, Adam
Pugh, Dr John
Carmichael, Alistair Reid, Alan (Argyll & Bute)
Chidgey, David Rendel, David
Corbyn, Jeremy Robinson, Mrs Iris (Strangford)
Cotter, Brian Robinson, Peter (Belfast E)
Davey, Edward (Kingston) Russell, Bob (Colchester)
Dodds, Nigel Salmond, Alex
Doughty, Sue Sanders, Adrian
Ewing, Annabelle Shepherd, Richard
Foster, Don (Bath) Stunell, Andrew
George, Andrew (St Ives) Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Gidley, Sandra Taylor, Dr Richard (Wyre F)
Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Green, Matthew (Ludlow) Thurso, John
Hancock, Mike Tonge, Dr Jenny
Harris, Dr Evan (Oxford W) Tyler, Paul
Harvey, Nick Webb, Steve
Heath, David Williams, Hywel (Caernarfon)
Holmes, Paul Williams, Roger (Brecon)
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) Willis, Phil
Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) Younger-Ross, Richard
Keetch Paul
Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (Ross Skye & Inverness W) Tellers for the Noes:
Sir Robert Smith and
Kirkwood, Archy Mrs. Annette L. Brooke.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Clauses 101 to 105, 120 and 121 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Schedule 8 agreed to.

Clause 122 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

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