HC Deb 26 November 2001 vol 375 cc800-4

Amendment made: No. 3, in page 78, line 6, leave out "under this section".—[Mr. Blunkett.]

Mr. Garnier

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have no doubt that you and your fellow occupiers of the Chair will have kept a careful note during the two days of discussion on the Bill, so can you tell me what proportion of the Bill has been debated and what proportion—[Interruption.]

Madam Deputy Speaker

Order. I am taking a point of order.

Mr. Garnier

What proportion of the amendments selected by the Chairman of Ways and Means was debated during the course of the Bill's passage through the House?

Madam Deputy Speaker

The business on the Bill has been conducted as per the programme motion agreed by the House.

Order for Third Reading read.

11.57 pm
Mr. Blunkett

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

I thank Members on both sides of the House who have contributed thoughtfully and calmly to proceedings on a difficult measure. It is difficult because we are bringing in the Bill in the light of what happened on 11 September. It is difficult because, for any emergency measure, speed is of the essence: there would be no point in introducing emergency measures and putting anti-terrorism provisions in place unless we did so swiftly. That has put stress on all Members and I am grateful to them.

I want to make two points. First, we are engaging in the measure precisely because the bombings of the Tanzanian and Kenyan embassies and subsequently the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon were planned years in advance. The thwarted attacks in Jordan and on the US embassy in Paris this year were planned months, if not years, in advance. Whatever is currently taking place around us—the network, the funding, the organisation—those who are prepared to provide suicide bombers to attack others will have had their preparation in place for a very long time.

Whatever success we can gain in Afghanistan—in freeing the people, in pushing the Taliban, the al-Qaeda group and bin Laden back into the mountains—we are still at risk. Those who dismiss that risk, who pretend that because 11 September is 11 weeks ago, we can set it aside, are making a grave error. That is why we are asking the House and, subsequently, the House of Lords to take measured, proportionate but necessary steps to protect the people of this country. The only people who have anything to fear are those who bring fear and dread to others. That is why I move Third Reading.

Mr. Let win

I shall be brief—

It being midnight, MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER, pursuant to Orders [19 and 21 November], put forthwith the Question already proposed from the Chair.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—

The House divided: Ayes 323, Noes 79.

Division No. 86] [12 midnight
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N) Beard, Nigel
Ainger, Nick Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret
Ainsworth, Bob (Cov'try NE) Begg, Miss Anne
Alexander, Douglas Benn, Hilary
Allen, Graham Benton, Joe
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E) Berry, Roger
Best, Harold
Anderson, Janet (Rossendale) Betts, Clive
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary Blackman, Liz
Atherton, Ms Candy Blears, Ms Hazel
Atkins, Charlotte Blizzard, Bob
Austin, John Blunkett, Rt Hon David
Bailey, Adrian Borrow, David
Baird, Vera Bradley, Rt Hon Keith (Withington)
Banks, Tony Bradley, Peter (The Wrekin)
Barron, Kevin Bradshaw, Ben
Brennan, Kevin Gilroy, Linda
Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Newcastle E & Wallsend) Godsiff, Roger
Goggins, Paul
Brown, Russell (Dumfries) Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Browne, Desmond Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Bryant, Chris Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Buck, Ms Karen Grogan, John
Burden, Richard Hain, Rt Hon Peter
Burnham, Andy Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Byers, Rt Hon Stephen Hall, Patrick (Bedford)
Caborn, Rt Hon Richard Hamilton, David (Midlothian)
Cairns, David Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) Hanson, David
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Havard, Dai
Caton, Martin Healey, John
Cawsey, Ian Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Challen, Colin Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Hepburn, Stephen
Chaytor, David Heppell, John
Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough) Hermon, Lady
Clark, Dr Lynda (Edinburgh Pentlands) Hesford, Stephen
Hewitt, Rt Hon Ms Patricia
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Heyes, David
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Hill, Keith
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Hodge, Margaret
Clelland, David Hoon, Rt Hon Geoffrey
Coaker, Vernon Hope, Phil
Coffey, Ms Ann Howarth, Rt Hon Alan (Newport E)
Cohen, Harry Howarth, George (Knowsley N)
Coleman, Iain Hoyle, Lindsay
Cook, Rt Hon Robin (Livingston) Hughes, Beverley (Stretford)
Corston, Jean Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Cousins, Jim Humble, Mrs Joan
Cox, Tom Hurst, Alan
Cranston, Ross Hutton, Rt Hon John
Crausby, David Iddon, Dr Brian
Cruddas, Jon Illsley, Eric
Cummings, John Ingram, Rt Hon Adam
Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr Jack (Copeland) Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead)
Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)
Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S) Jamieson, David
Cunningham, Tony (Workington) Jenkins, Brian
Curtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle)
Darling, Rt Hon Alistair Jones, Helen (Warrington N)
Davey, Valerie (Bristol W) Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Davidson, Ian Jones, Kevan (N Durham)
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Jones, Martyn (ClwydS)
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa
Dean, Mrs Janet Joyce, Eric
Denham, Rt Hon John Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Dhanda, Parmjit Keeble, Ms Sally
Dismore, Andrew Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Dobson, Rt Hon Frank Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)
Donohoe, Brian H Kelly, Ruth
Doran, Frank Kemp, Fraser
Dowd, Jim Kennedy, Jane (Wavertree)
Eagle, Angela (Wallasey) Kidney, David
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Edwards, Huw Knight, Jim (S Dorset)
Efford, Clive Kumar, Dr Ashok
Ellman, Mrs Louise Ladyman, Dr Stephen
Ennis, Jeff Lammy, David
Farrelly, Paul Lawrence, Mrs Jackie
Field, Rt Hon Frank (Birkenhead) Laxton, Bob
Fitzpatrick, Jim Lazarowicz, Mark
Fitzsimons, Mrs Loma Lepper, David
Flint, Caroline Leslie, Christopher
Flynn, Paul Levitt, Tom
Foster, Rt Hon Derek Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Foulkes, George Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Francis, Dr Hywel Linton, Martin
Gapes, Mike Lloyd, Tony
Gardiner, Barry Love, Andrew
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) Luke, Iain
Gibson, Dr Ian Lyons, John
McAvoy, Thomas Raynsford, Rt Hon Nick
McCabe, Stephen Reed, Andy (Loughborough)
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian Reid, Rt Hon Dr John (Hamilton N)
McDonagh, Siobhain Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)
MacDonald, Calum
MacDougall, John Roche, Mrs Barbara
McFall, John Rooney, Terry
McGuire, Mrs Anne Ross, Ernie
McIsaac, Shona Roy, Frank
McKechin, Ann Ruane, Chris
McKenna, Rosemary Ruddock, Joan
Mackinlay, Andrew Russell, Ms Christine (Chester)
MacShane, Denis Ryan, Joan
Mactaggart Fiona Sarwar, Mohammad
McWilliam, John Savidge, Malcolm
Mahmood, Khalid Sawford, Phil
Mallaber, Judy Shaw, Jonathan
Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter Sheerman, Barry
Mann, John Sheridan, Jim
Marris, Rob Short, Rt Hon Clare
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) Simon, Siôn
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Martlew, Eric Smith, Angela (Basildon)
Meacher, Rt Hon Michael Smith, Rt Hon Chris (Islington S)
Merron, Gillian Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe)
Michael, Rt Hon Alun Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Milburn, Rt Hon Alan Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Miliband, David Southworth, Helen
Miller, Andrew Spellar, Rt Hon John
Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) Squire, Rachel
Moffatt, Laura Starkey, Dr Phyllis
Moonie, Dr Lewis Steinberg, Gerry
Moran, Margaret Stevenson, George
Morris, Rt Hon Estelle Stewart, David (Inverness E)
Mountford, Kali Stewart, Ian (Eccles)
Mudie, George Stinchcombe, Paul
Mullin, Chris Stoate, Dr Howard
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen) Stringer, Graham
Naysmith, Dr Doug Stuart, Ms Gisela
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) Tami, Mark
O'Brien, Mike (N Warks) Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
O'Hara, Edward Taylor, David (NW Leics)
Olner, Bill Thomas, Gareth (Clwyd W)
O'Neill, Martin Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
Organ, Diana Timms, Stephen
Osborne, Sandra (Ayr) Tipping, Paddy
Owen, Albert Todd, Mark
Palmer, Dr Nick Touhig, Don
Pearson, Ian Trickett Jon
Perham, Linda Truswell, Paul
Picking, Anne Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Pickthall, Colin Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Pike, Peter Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Plaskitt, James Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Pond, Chris Vis, Dr Rudi
Pope, Greg Walley, Ms Joan
Pound, Stephen Ward, Ms Claire
Powell, Sir Raymond Watson, Tom
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) Watts, David
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) Whitehead, Dr Alan
Primarolo, Dawn Wicks, Malcolm
Prosser, Gwyn Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Purchase, Ken
Purnell, James Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Quin, Rt Hon Joyce Wills, Michael
Quinn, Lawrie Wilson, Brian
Rammell. Bill Winnick, David
Rapson, Syd Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Wood, Mike Wyatt, Derek
Woodward, Shaun
Woolas, Phil
Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth) Tellers for the Ayes:
Wright, David (Telford) Mr. Ivor Caplin and
Wright, Tony (Cannock) Mr. Tony McNulty.
Allan, Richard Lamb, Norman
Baker, Norman Laws, David
Barnes, Harry Llwyd, Elfyn
Barrett, John McDonnell, John
Beith, Rt Hon A J McNamara, Kevin
Bennett, Andrew McWalter, Tony
Brake, Tom Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury)
Breed, Colin Marshall-Andrews, Robert
Brooke, Mrs Annette L Moore, Michael
Bruce, Malcolm Oaten, Mark
Burnett, John Öpik, Lembit
Cable, Dr Vincent Paisly, Rev lan
Calton, Mrs Patsy Price, Adam
Campbell, Rt Hon Menzies (NE Fife) Pugh, Dr John
Reid, Alan (Argyll & Bute)
Carmichael, Alistair Rendel, David
Chidgey David Robinson, Mrs Iris (Strangford)
Corbyn, Jeremy Robinson, Peter (Belfast E)
Cotter Brian Russell, Bob (Colchester)
Dalyell, Tam Salmond Alex
Dodds, Nigel Sanders, Adrian
Doughty, Sue Sedgemore, Brian
Ewing, Annabelle Shepherd, Richard
Foster, Don (Bath) Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S)
Garnier, Edward Skinner, Dennis
George, Andrew (St Ives) Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)
Stunell, Andrew
Gerrard, Neil Taylor Matthew (Truro)
Gidley, Sandra Taylor Dr Richard (Wyre F)
Green, Matthew (Ludlow) Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Hancock, Mike Thurso, John
Harris, Dr Evan (Oxford W) Tonge, Dr Jenny
Harvey, Nick Tyler, Paul
Heath, David Wareing, Robert N
Holmes, Paul Webb, Steve
Hopkins, Kelvin Williams, Hywel (Caemarfon)
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) Williams, Roger (Brecon)
Jones, Lynne (Selly Oak) Willis, Phil
Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) Younger-Ross, Richard
Keetch, Paul
Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (Ross Skye & Inverness W) Tellers for the Noes:
Mr. Douglas Hogg and
Kirkwood, Archy Sir Robert Smith.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Bill read the Third time, and passed.

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