HC Deb 14 February 2001 vol 363 cc412-28

". After section 19 of the 1977 Act there shall be inserted—

19A.—(1) It is the duty of the Secretary of State to arrange, to such extent as he considers necessary to meet all reasonable requirements, for the provision of independent advocacy services.

(2) "Independent advocacy services" are services providing assistance (by way of representation or otherwise) to individuals making or intending to make—

  1. (a) a complaint under a procedure operated by a health service body or independent provider,
  2. (b) a complaint to the Health Service Commissioner for England or the Health Service Commissioner for Wales,
  3. (c) a complaint of a prescribed description which relates to the provision of services as part of the health service and
    1. (i) is made under a procedure of a prescribed description, or
    2. (ii) gives rise, or may give rise, to proceedings of a prescribed description.

(3) In subsection (2)— health service body" mean a body which, under section 2(1) or (2) of the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993, is subject to investigation by the Health Service Commissioner for England c r the Health Service Commissioner for Wales; independent provider" means a person who, under section 2B(1) or (2) of that Act, is subject to such investigation.

(4) The Secretary of State may make such other arrangements as he thinks fit for the provision of assistance to individuals in connection with complaints relating to the provision of services as part of the health service.

(5) In making arrangements under this section the Secretary of State must have regard to the principle that the provision of services under the arrangements should, so far as practicable, be independent of any person who is the subject of a relevant complaint or is involved in investigating or adjudicating on such a complaint.

(6) Before making arrangements under this section in respect of complaints relating to the provision of any services, the Secretary of State shall consult—

  1. (a) any relevant Patients' Council, and
  2. (b) such other persons as he consit ers appropriate.

(7) A Patients' Council is, for the purposes of subsection (6)(a), a relevant Council if the services concerned are ones to which functions of a member Forum of the Council relate.

(8) The Secretary of State may make payments to any person in pursuance of arrangements under this section.".'.—[Mr. Jamieson.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clauses be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 335, Noes 124.

Division No. 126] [9.17 pm
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N) Berth, Rt Hon A J
Ainger, Nick Bell, Martin (Tatton)
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Bell, Stuart (Middlesbrough)
Allan, Richard Benn, Hilary (Leeds C)
Allen, Graham Benn, Rt Hon Tony (Chesterfield)
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E) Bennett, Andrew F
Benton, Joe
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary Bermingham, Gerald
Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy Berry, Roger
Ashton, Joe Best, Harold
Atkins, Charlotte Belts, Clive
Austin, John Blears, Ms Hazel
Bailey, Adrian Blizzard, Bob
Ballard, Jackie Borrow, David
Banks, Tony Bradshaw, Ben
Barnes, Harry Brake, Tom
Barron, Kevin Brand, Dr Peter
Battle, John Breed, Colin
Bayley, Hugh Brinton, Mrs Helen
Beard, Nigel Brown, Russell (Dumfries)
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret Browne, Desmond
Begg, Miss Anne Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon)
Buck, Ms Karen Gidley, Sandra
Burden, Richard Gilroy, Mrs Linda
Burnett, John Goggins, Paul
Burstow, Paul Golding, Mrs Llin
Byers, Rt Hon Stephen Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Campbell-Savours, Dale Grogan John
Cann, Jamie Gunnell, John
Caplin, Ivor Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Caton, Martin Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Hancock, Mike
Chaytor, David Hanson, David
Clapham, Michael Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields) Harris, Dr Evan
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Harvey, Nick
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Healey, John
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Heath, David (Somerton & Frome)
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Clelland, David Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Coaker, Vernon Hendrick, Mark
Coffey, Ms Ann Hepburn, Stephen
Cohen, Harry Heppell, John
Coleman, Iain Hesford, Stephen
Colman, Tony Hewitt, Ms Patricia
Connarty, Michael Hinchliffe, David
Cooper, Yvette Hodge, Ms Margaret
Corbett, Robin Hope, Phil
Corbyn, Jeremy Hopkins, Kelvin
Cotter, Brian Howarth, George (Knowsley N)
Cousins, Jim Howells, Dr Kim
Cox, Tom Hoyle, Lindsay
Cranston, Ross Hughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford)
Crausby, David Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Cryer, John (Hornchurch) Hughes, (Southwark N)
Cummings, John Humble, Mrs Joan
Cunningham, Jim (Cov"try S) Humble, Mrs Joan
Darling, Rt Hon Alistair Hutton, John
Darvill, Keith Iddon, Dr Brian
Davey, Edward (Kingston) Illsley, Eric
Davey, Valerie (Bristol W) Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)
Davidson, Ian Jamieson, David
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Jenkins, Brian
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hassle)
Davis, Rt Hon Terry (B"ham Hodge H) Jones, Mrs Fiona (Newark)
Jones, Helen (Warrington N)
Dawson, Hilton Jones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh"ton SW)
Denham, Rt Hon John
Dismore, Andrew Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Dobbin, Jim Jones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak)
Dobson, Rt Hon Frank Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S)
Donohoe, Brian H Jowell, Rt Hon Ms Tessa
Doran, Frank Joyce, Eric
Dowd, Jim Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Drew, David Keeble, Ms Sally
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Eagle, Angela (Wallasey) Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) Keetch, Paul
Edwards, Huw Kemp, Fraser
Efford, Clive Kidney, David
Ellman, Mrs Louise Kilfoyle, Peter
Ellman, Mrs Louise Kilfoyle, Peter
Ennis, Jeff King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Etherington, Bill
Fisher, Mark Kirkwood, Archy
Fitzpatrick, Jim Kumar, Dr Ashok
Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna Ladyman, Dr Stephen
Flint, Caroline Lammy, David
Flynn Paul Lawrence, Mrs Jackie
Foster, Rt Hon Derek Laxton, Bob
Foulkes, George Lepper, David
Galloway, George Leslie, Christopher
George, Andrew (St Ives) Levitt, Tom
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Gerrard, Neil Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Gibson, Dr Ian Linton, Martin
Livsey, Richard Rooker, Rt Hon Jeff
Lock, David Rooney, Terry
Love, Andrew Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
McAvoy, Thomas Rowlands, Ted
McCabe, Steve Ruane, Chris
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield) Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Bob (Colchester)
McDonagh Siobhain Russel1, Ms Christine (Chester)
Macdonald, Calum Ryan, Ms Joan
McDonnell, John Salter, Martin
McIsaac, Shona Sanders, Adrian
Mackinlay, Andrew Sarwar, Mohammad
McNamara, Kevin Savidge, Malcolm
McNulty, Tony Sawford Phil
Mactaggart, Fiona Sedgemore, Brian
McWalter, Tony Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
McWilliam, John Shipley, Ms Debra
Mahon, Mrs Alice Singh, Marsha
Mallaber, Judy Skinner, Dennis
Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) Smith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury) Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Martlew, Eric Soley, Clive
Meacher, Rt Hon Michael Southworth, Ms Helen
Meale, Alan Spellar, John
Merron, Gillian Squire, Ms Rachel
Michael, Rt Hon Alun Starkey, Dr Phyllis
Michie, Bill (Shefld Heeley) Steinberg, Gerry
Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute) Stewart, Ian (Eccles)
Milburn, Rt Hon Alan Stinchcombe, Paul
Miller, Andrew Stoate, Dr Howard
Moffatt Laura Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin
Moore, Michael Stuart, Ms Gisela
Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N) Stunell, Andrew
Morris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley) Sutcliffe Gerry
Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Morris, Rt Hon Sir John (Aberavon)
Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
Mulllin, Chris Taylor, David (NW Leics)
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) Taylor Rt Hon John D (Strangford)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen) Temple-Morris, Peter
Naysmith, Dr Doug Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
Morris, Dan Timms, Stephen
Oaten, Mark Tipping, Paddy
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) Todd, Mark
O'Hara, Eddie Tonge, Dr Jenny
Olner, Bill Trickett, Jon
O'Neill, Martin Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Öpik, Lembit Turner, Dr George (NW Norfolk)
Organ, Mrs Diana Turner, Neil (Wigan)
Pickthall, Colin Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Pike, Peter L Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Pond, Chris Tyler, Paul
Pope, Greg Vis, Dr Rudi
Pound, Stephen Walley, Ms Joan
Powell, Sir Raymond Ward, Ms Claire
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) Wareing, Robert N
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) Watts, David
Webb, Steve
Primarolo, Dawn White, Brian
Prosser, Gwyn Whitehead, Dr Alan
Purchase, Ken Wicks, Malcolm
Quin, Rt Hon Ms Joyce Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Quinn, Lawrie
Rammell, Bill Williams, Allan W (E Carmarthen)
Raynsford, Nick Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Reed, Andrew (Loughborough) Willis, Phil
Rendel, David Wills, Michael
Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland) Winnick, David
Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW) Woodward, Shaun
Rogers, Allan Woolas, Phil
Wray, James Tellers for the Ayes:
Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth) Mr. Don Touhig and
Wright, Tony (Cannock) Mr. Ian Pearson.
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey) Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Amess, David Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon James Lansley, Andrew
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) Leigh, Edward
Baldry, Tony Letwin, Oliver
Beggs, Roy Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Bercow, John Lidington, David
Beresford, Sir Paul Lloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Blunt, Crispin Loughton, Tim
Body, Sir Richard Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Boswell, Tim McCrea, Dr William
Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W) McIntosh, Miss Anne
Bottomley, Rt Hon Mrs Virginia Maclean, Rt Hon David
Brady, Graham McLoughlin, Patrick
Brazier, Julian Malins, Humfrey
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Mates, Michael
Browning, Mrs Angela Moss, Malcolm
Burns, Simon Nicholls, Patrick
Butterfill, John Norman, Archie
Cash, William O'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet) Ottaway, Richard
Page, Richard
Chope, Christopher Pickles, Eric
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh) Portillo, Rt Hon Michael
Collins, Tim Prior, David
Cormack, Sir Patrick Randall, John
Cran, James Redwood, Rt Hon John
Curry, Rt Hon David Robertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Davies, Quentin (Grantham) Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice) St Aubyn, Nick
Day, Stephen Sayeed, Jonathan
Duncan Alan Shephard, Rt Hon Mrs Gillian
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter Shepherd, Richard
Evans, Niqel Simpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk)
Fabricant, Michael Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Fallon, Michael Spelman, Mrs Caroline
Flight, Howard Spring, Richard
Forth, Rt Hon Eric Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman Steen Anthony
Streeter, Gary
Fox, Dr Liam Swayne, Desmond
Gale, Roger Syms, Robert
Garnier, Edward Taylor, Ian (Esher & Walton)
Gibb, Nick Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Gill, Christopher Taylor, Sir Teddy
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Gorman, Mrs Teresa Townend, John
Gray, James Tredinnick, David
Greenway, John Trend Michael
Grieve, Dominic Viggers, Peter
Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir Archie Walter, Robert
Hammond, Philip Waterson, Nigel
Hayes, John Whitney, Sir Raymond
Heald, Oliver Whittingdale, John
Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David Widdecombe, Rt Hon Miss Ann
Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas Wilkinson, John
Horam, John Willetts, David
Howard, Rt Hon Michael Wilshire, David
Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot) Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Hunter, Andrew Winterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield)
Jackson, Robert (Wantage) Yeo, Tim
Jenkin, Bernard Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Johnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Tellers for the Noes:
Key, Robert Mr. Peter Luff and
Kirkbride, Miss Julie Mr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Clauses read a Second time, and added to the Bill.

Question Put, That the remaining Government amendments and amendments Nos. 24 to 26 be made:—

The House divied: Ayes 338, Noes 118.

Division No. 127] [9.31 pm
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N) Corbett, Robin
Ainger, Nick Corbyn, Jeremy
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Cotter, Brian
Allan, Richard Cousins, Jim
Allen, Graham Cox, Tom
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E) Cranston, Ross
Crausby, David
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary Cryer, John (Hornchurch)
Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy Cummings, John
Ashton, Joe Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S)
Atkins, Charlotte Darling, Rt Hon Alistair
Austin, John Darvill, Keith
Bailey, Adrian Davey, Edward (Kingston)
Ballard, Jackie Davey, Valerie (Bristol W)
Banks, Tony Davidson, Ian
Barnes, Harry Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Battle, John Davies, Geraint (Croydon C)
Bayley, Hugh Davis, Rt Hon Terry (B'ham Hodge H)
Beard, Nigel
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret Dawson, Hilton
Begg, Miss Anne Denham, Rt Hon John
Beith, Rt Hon A J Dismore, Andrew
Bell, Martin (Tatton) Dobbin, Jim
Bell, Stuart (Middlesbrough) Dobson, Rt Hon Frank
Benn, Hilary (Leeds C) Donohoe, Brian H
Bennett, Andrew F Doran, frank
Benton, Joe Dowd, Jim
Bermingham, Gerald Drew, David
Berry, Roger Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth
Best, Harold Eagle, Angela (Wallasey)
Belts, Clive Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)
Blears, Ms Hazel Edwards, Huw
Blizzard, Bob Efford, Clive
Borrow, David Ellman, Mrs Louise
Bradshaw, Ben Ennis, Jeff
Brake, Tom Etherington, Bill
Brand, Dr Peter Fisher, Mark
Breed, Colin Fitzpatrick, Jim
Brinton, Mrs Helen Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna
Brown, Russell (Dumfries) Flint, Caroline
Browne, Desmond Flynn, Paul
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Buck, Ms Karen Foulkes, George
Burden, Richard Galloway, George
Burgon, Colin George Andrew (St Ives)
Burnett, John George Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S)
Burstow, Paul Gerrard, Neil
Byers, Rt Hon Stephen Gibson, Dr Ian
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Gidley, Sandra
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Gilroy, Mrs Linda
Campbell-Savours, Dale Goggins, Paul
Caplin, Ivor Golding, Mrs Llin
Caton, Martin Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Cawsey, Ian Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Chaytor, David Grocott, Bruce
Clapham, Michael Grogan, John
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields) Gunnell, John
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Clarke, Charles (Norwich S) Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Hancock, Mike
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Hanson, David
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Herman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Clelland, David Harris, Dr Evan
Coaker, Vernon Harvey, Nick
Coffey, Ms Ann Healey, John
Cohen, Harry Heath, David (Somerton & Frome)
Coleman, Iain Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Colman, Tony Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Connarty, Michael Hendrick, Mark
Cooper, Yvette Hepburn, Stephen
Heppell, John Martlew, Eric
Hesford, Stephen Meacher, Rt Hon Michael
Hewitt, Ms Patricia Meale, Alan
Hinchliffe, David Merron, Gillian
Hodge, Ms Margaret Michael, Rt Hon Alun
Hope, Phil Michie, Bill (Shefld Heeley)
Hopkins, Kelvin Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute)
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Milburn, Rt Hon Alan
Howells, Dr Kim Miller, Andrew
Hoyle, Lindsay Mitchell, Austin
Hughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford) Moffatt, Laura
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) Moore, Michael
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N)
Humble, Mrs Joan Morris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley)
Hutton, John
Iddon, Dr Brian Morris, Fit Hon Sir John (Aberavon)
Illsley, Eric
Jackson, Ms Glenda (Hampstead) Mullin, Chris
Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough) Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)
Jamieson, David Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen)
Jenkins, Brian Naysmith, Dr Doug
Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle) Norris, Dan
Jones, Mrs Fiona (Newark) Oaten, Mark
Jones, Helen (Warrington N) O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)
Jones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh"ton SW) O'Hara, Eddie
Olner, Bill
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) O'Neill, Martin
Jones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak) Öpik, Lembit
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S) Organ, Mrs Diana
Jowell, Rt Hon Ms Tessa Pickthall, Colin
Joyce, Eric Pike, Peter L
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Pond, Chris
Keeble, Ms Sally Pope, Greg
Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston) Pound, Stephen
Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth) Powell, Sir Raymond
Keetch, Paul Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)
Kemp, Fraser Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Kidney, David Primarolo, Dawn
Kilfoyle, Peter Prosser, Gwyn
King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth) Purchase, Ken
Kirkwood, Archy Quin, Rt Hon Ms Joyce
Kumar, Dr Ashok Quinn, Lawrie
Ladyman, Dr Stephen Rammell, Bill
Lammy, David Raynsford, Nick
Lawrence, Mrs Jackie Reed, Andrew (Loughborough)
Laxton, Bob Rendel, David
Lepper, David Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)
Leslie, Christopher
Levitt, Tom Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW)
Lewis, Ivan (Bury S) Rogers, Allan
Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen Rooker, Rt Hon Jeff
Linton, Martin Rooney, Terry
Livsey, Richard Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Lock, David Rowlands, Ted
Love, Andrew Ruane, Chris
McAvoy, Thomas Ruddock, Joan
McCabe, Steve Russell, Bob (Colchester)
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield) Russell, Ms Christine (Chester)
Ryan, Ms Joan
McDonagh, Siobhain Salter, Martin
Macdonald, Calum Sanders, Adrian
McDonnell, John Sarwar, Mohammad
McIsaac, Shona Savidge, Malcolm
Mackinlay, Andrew Sawford, Phil
McNamara, Kevin Sedgemore, Brian
McNulty, Tony Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Mactaggart, Fiona Shipley, Ms Debra
McWalter, Tony Singh, Marsha
McWilliam, John Skinner, Dennis
Mahon, Mrs Alice Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Mallaber, Judy Smith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury) Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Soley, Clive
Southworth, Ms Helen Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Spellar, John Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Squire, Ms Rachel Tyler, Paul
Starkey, Dr Phyllis Vis, Dr Rudi
Steinberg, Gerry Walley, Ms Joan
Stewart, Ian (Eccles) Ward, Ms Claire
Stinchcombe, Paul Wareing, Robert N
Stoate, Dr Howard Watts, David
Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin Webb, Steve
Stringer, Graham White, Brian
Stuart, Ms Gisela Whitehead, Dr Alan
Stunell, Andrew Wicks, Malcolm
Sutcliffe, Gerry Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Williams, Alan W (E Carmarthen)
Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S) Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Taylor, David (NW Leics) Willis, Phil
Temple-Morris, Peter Wills, Michael
Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W) Winnick, David
Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion) Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Timms, Stephen Woodward, Shaun
Tipping, Paddy Woolas, Phil
Todd, Mark Wray, James
Tonge, Dr Jenny Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Trickett, Jon Wright, Tony (Cannock)
Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown) Tellers for the Ayes:
Turner, Dr George (NW Norfolk) Mr. Don Touhig and
Turner, Neil (Wigan) Mr. Ian Pearson.
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey) Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir Archie
Amess, David Hammond, Philip
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon James Hayes, John
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) Heald, Oliver
Baldry, Tony Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David
Beggs, Roy Horam, John
Bercow, John Howard, Rt Hon Michael
Beresford, Sir Paul Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot)
Blunt, Crispin Hunter, Andrew
Body, Sir Richard Jackson, Robert (Wantage)
Boswell, Tim Jenkin, Bernard
Brady, Graham Johnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Brazier, Julian
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Key, Robert
Browning, Mrs Angela Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Burns, Simon Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Butterfill, John Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Cash, William Lansley, Andrew
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet) Leigh, Edward
Letwin, Oliver
Chope, Christopher Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh) Lidington, David
Collins, Tim Lloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Cormack, Sir Patrick Loughton, Tim
Cran, James Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Curry, Rt Hon David McCrea, Dr William
Davies, Quentin (Grantham) McIntosh, Miss Anne
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice) Maclean, Rt Hon David
Day, Stephen McLoughlin, Patrick
Duncan, Alan Malins, Humfrey
Evans, Nigel Maples, John
Fabricant, Michael Moss, Malcolm
Fallon, Michael Nicholls, Patrick
Forth, Rt Hon Eric Norman, Archie
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman O'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Fox, Dr Liam Ottaway, Richard
Gale, Roger Page, Richard
Garnier, Edward Pickles, Eric
Gibb, Nick Portillo, Rt Hon Michael
Gill, Christopher Prior, David
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl Randall, John
Gorman, Mrs Teresa Redwood, Rt Hon John
Gray, James Robertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Greenway, John Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Grieve, Dominic St Aubyn, Nick
Sayeed, Jonathan Viggers, Peter
Shephard, Rt Hon Mrs Gillian Walter, Robert
Shepherd, Richard Waterson, Nigel
Simpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk) Whitney, Sir Raymond
Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S) Whittingdale, John
Spelman, Mrs Caroline Widdecombe, Rt Hon Miss Ann
Spring, Richard Wilkinson, John
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John Willetts, David
Streeter, Gary Wilshire, David
Swayne, Desmond Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Syms, Robert Winterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield)
Taylor, Ian (Esher & Walton) Yeo, Tim
Taylor, Rt Hon John D (Strangford) Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Taylor, Sir Teddy
Townend, John Tellers for the Noes:
Tredinnick, David Mr. Peter Luff and
Trend, Michael Mr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Order for Third Reading read.

Mr. Speaker

Before I call the Minister to speak on Third Reading, I should announce that I have selected the amendment in the name of the Liberal Democrat party.

Mr. Edward Leigh (Gainsborough)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Do you think it adequate for the mother of Parliaments to give a Third Reading of just 15 minutes to an important Bill?

Mr. Speaker

Order. It must be adequate because I am proceeding according to the rules of the House. I call the Minister to speak.

9.46 pm
Mr. Denham

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

Had the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh) been here earlier, he would have heard his colleagues argue that an hour was far too long to spend on Third Reading of a Bill of this sort. The House would welcome a little bit of co-ordination by Opposition Members.

As we approach the end of the Commons stage on the Bill, I want to make a few points. The Bill is vital to implement the NHS plan. As a Government, we inherited a fragmented and under-resourced NHS; buildings were crumbling and there were too few staff. We have already acted to end the internal market, to get the biggest ever hospital building programme under way, to set up primary care groups and trusts and to expand the training of staff. We are now seeing unprecedented investment in the NHS which, however, must be investment for modernisation. The measures in the Bill make sure that that will happen.

First, it is a decentralising and devolving Bill, which underpins the principle of earned autonomy for the best run parts of the health service, together with the principles of less performance; management and greater financial freedom. It gives new powers to the NHS and local councils to work together at local level. They already have partnership powers; row they have the ability to create new joint organisations and a new level of partnership to provide a seamless care service for the elderly, the mentally ill and children. Those powers have been widely welcomed and sought. Unfortunately, not all right hon. and hon. Members have taken a close interest in the Bill, but it is no less important for that.

Dr. Lynne Jones

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Mr. Denham

If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I should like to make a little progress.

As we have just discussed, the Bill provides more power for patients and increased democratic local scrutiny. It also enables us to tackle variations. The best of the NHS is extremely good, but the variations in the service are too wide. As we develop earned autonomy for the best parts of the system, we have more effective means to support and intervene in any part of the system in which performance is poor or trusts are failing. The Bill underlines the new performance management system and the performance fund that will be worth £250 million in two or three years' time. It gives us the power, if needed as a last resort, to tackle failing trusts.

The Bill gives us the power to tackle variations in primary care. The new unified budget will make it easier for health authorities to determine the expansion of GP numbers, attract more GPs to deprived areas and enable them to work in better premises. The Bill makes possible a new partnership to invest £1 billion in primary care premises and one-stop primary centres, starting in deprived areas. It therefore helps our commitment to tackle health inequalities.

The Bill also enables us to protect the quality of patient services. All GPs will be on health authority lists; there will be a new system of suspension, removal and appeal which means that, in the small number of cases in which it is needed, there will be a faster and more effective system to safeguard patients and a fairer system for GPs. It enables us to hour the agreement with the British Medical Association that, as GPs move on to lists, all of them will be able to join the NHS pension scheme. It will take some months to get the lists into place, but our aim is to backdate them to April this year. We rightly extend the list system to other health professionals.

The Bill protects patients and improves the quality of care in other ways, for example, by ensuring tight controls over the use of patient information and by enabling patients to have more information about their own personal care. The Bill backs innovation: it provides for new ways of providing pharmaceutical services, establishes new groups of health professionals able to prescribe prescription drugs, and creates new powers to ensure that the NHS can benefit properly and fairly from its own research and innovation.

The Bill brings new fairness to health care for the elderly. For the first time ever, NHS nursing care will be free wherever it is delivered. It ends the means test of health care in nursing homes. That is a huge step forward, which goes with the investment by 2004–05 of £1 billion in new and improved health and social care services for the elderly.

That means turning our back on Tory privatisation, on the cuts that they promised in social care, and on the cuts that they promised in health care to make up for the money that they would not raise from tobacco, and the money that they would waste on subsidising private health insurance. It reverses Tory plans to make people pay for hip operations, knee operations, cataract operations and hernias. It is an important Bill, which underpins the Government's commitment to the long-term future and modernisation of the NHS.

9.50 pm
Dr. Fox

I begin by correcting the first of a remarkable list of inaccuracies in the Minister's speech. He said that we did not want as much time as was allocated for Third Reading. The point that we made at the beginning of the day was that we had very little time for all the remaining stages of the Bill, including the Government's new clauses and more than 120 amendments. It is a sad reflection on the new procedure in the House that we have been able to give so little consideration to the remaining stages. The one correct thing that the Minister said was that the Bill was extremely important.

The Bill must be judged by whether it will improve the overall health care in this country and the running of the national health service. Almost any medical or nursing group that we speak to throughout the country speaks about morale in the NHS being at an all-time low, more people leaving the service than ever before, more doctors taking early retirement than ever before—

Maria Eagle

The hon. Gentleman is talking down the NHS again.

Dr. Fox

The hon. Lady says that I am talking the service down. Her Government have been in charge of the NHS for the past four years. More people are leaving the service than ever before. That is one thing for which she cannot blame the previous Government. This is the fourth winter that the Government have been in control of the health service, where morale among staff is clearly very poor. I wonder when the Government will take responsibility for anything that they are getting wrong.

Increased numbers of people are waiting to be treated in the service. The Government talk about the number by which they have reduced the in-patient waiting list. The Minister deprecates the private sector, but it is worth pointing out that since the Government came to office, 450,000 people have left the waiting list of their own volition to purchase treatment in the private sector with their savings. Had it not been for people being forced to use their savings by the waiting times overseen by the Government, the waiting lists would have risen by even more than they have.

Notwithstanding that huge reduction, as a result of the fact that people have been willing to pay, often for life-saving treatments, with their life savings, the total number of patients waiting in our system has gone up, if one adds together the in-patients and the waiting list for the waiting list, which has soared since the Government came to power.

Perhaps worse than that are the distorted priorities in the system. In the short time available to me, I will not go over the catalogue of horrors that we have heard in recent debates and which have been raised in the House during Question Time. When surgeons are asked to cancel waiting lists for surgery for cancer patients so that they can treat more minor cases, we must wonder about the ethical basis for our system. Under the Government's bizarre and distorted waiting list initiative, we have reached the point when we are debating whether to treat the sickest patients first. That is the background to the debate, and the level of distortion that now exists in the system.

Ministers have failed to tackle the most important thing of all—not the number of patients waiting, but what the service does. There is nothing in the Bill about outcome-based targets for a system and a country that has just slipped behind Turkey in life expectancy—down to 19th place in the world. In many priority areas, the NHS fails to deliver outcomes that we might rightfully expect for the fourth wealthiest nation in the world, yet patients with in-growing toe nails and impacted wisdom teeth are being removed from the waiting list simply to make the figures look better for Ministers. That is a disgraceful way to run a service.

Against that background, we are faced with the NHS plan and the Bill. The NHS plan is not a plan in the sense in which most people would understand that word. It is more of a wish list, as we see when we consider some of its particular aspects and scrutinise them in detail. Such aspects include the number of staff required. Medical bodies such as the British Medical Association and the royal colleges tell us not only that the Bill does nothing for the provision of staff, but that the numbers are greatly underestimated in the first place.

The Minister tells us that the Bill is a decentralising measure. He has many talents, but he has only recently turned his hand to comedy. The Bill could not be described as decentralising by any stretch of the imagination. It will reinforce all the micro-management tendencies of the current Government, who genuinely believe that a service that employs a million people can be managed from behind a single Minister's desk in Whitehall. There is constant interference with management and the Department is continually distributing circulars that make it impossible for anyone to set budgets for any length of time and which force those in NHS management to go chasing after packets of money for which they must compete by investing huge amounts of their time and energy. We need depoliticisation and decentralisation, but the Bill gives us increased centralisation.

That is not to say that the Opposition do not welcome some parts of the Bill. We welcome the extension of nursing care, which the Minister mentioned. We also welcome proper control of locums. From my personal experience, I think that that is long overdue in the NHS. We do not pretend for a minute that every aspect of the Bill is undesirable, but three major issues make it completely unpalatable.

The first issue is the abolition of community health councils, which we have recently addressed. Let me make the Opposition's position perfectly clear. We think that the new clauses introduced on Report will reduce the damage caused by the abolition of CHCs, but we do not accept them because we do not accept that policy. We will continue to press for retention and reform of CHCs as the Bill proceeds through the House of Lords. I believe that we will have the support of Liberal Democrats in the other place in carrying that process forward. There is no doubt that the abolition of CHCs is a completely unacceptable policy, as it removes an independent voice for patients, as well as their ability to use a single point of access into the system.

None of the questions that we asked earlier were answered. We had no answer about cost or about what would happen to the staff or to confidential information. We have debated the ownership and confidentiality of patient information, and have considered where it should rest. A huge volume of information about patients is contained in the records of CHCs throughout the country. Having spent time debating those matters, however, we have reached Third Reading and we do not yet know where that information will go. As it may contain complaints about specific doctors or hospitals, it could potentially return to those doctors or hospitals.

Mr. David Maclean (Penrith and The Border)

My hon. Friend's point about CHCs worries us all, but what concerns the doctors and surgeons in my constituency and those of other Opposition Members is the fact that the Government are taking away their clinical freedom. Will he give an absolute assurance that after the election, when he is in charge of health policy and the Conservative party is in government, the distorted priorities imposed from the centre by Labour Ministers will be swept away and doctors will have the freedom to treat the sickest first?

Mr. Paul Tyler (North Cornwall)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I beg to move the amendment standing in the name of Liberal Democrat Members.

Mr. Speaker

I cannot allow that on a point of order. The hon. Member for Woodspring (Dr. Fox) is on his feet and has the Floor.

Dr. Fox

At least two hon. Members who have spoken today would benefit from reading "Erskine May". You mentioned one earlier, Mr. Speaker; I offer you another candidate.

I give my right hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Mr. Maclean) the assurance that he seeks. In a few months, when the electorate have decided that they need a change of Government, we shall return to a system of proper clinical priorities that treats the sickest patients first.

Another unacceptable aspect of the Bill is the interventionism in hiring and firing trust board members, and the ability of the Secretary of State to set terms and conditions of employment. That will allow greater manipulation of and further controls over information for which clause 62 provides. The Secretary of State will be able to perform unacceptable actions, including publishing patient information if he chooses to do that.

It being Ten o'clock, MR. SPEAKER put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [7 November and this day].

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—

The House divided: Ayes 310, Noes 168.

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Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N) Begg, Miss Anne
Ainger, Nick Bell, Stuart (Middlesbrough)
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Benn, Hilary (Leeds C)
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E) Bennett, Andrew F
Benton, Joe
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms Hilary Bermingham, Gerald
Ashton, Joe Berry, Roger
Atkins, Charlotte Best, Harold
Austin, John Betts, Clive
Bailey, Adrian Blears, Ms Hazel
Banks, Tony Blizzard, Bob
Barnes, Harry Borrow, David
Barron, Kevin Bradshaw, Ben
Battle, John Brinton, Mrs Helen
Bayley, Hugh Brown, Russell (Dumfries)
Beard, Nigel Browne, Desmond
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret Buck, Ms Karen
Burden, Richard Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Burgon, Colin Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Byers, Rt Hon Stephen Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Grocott, Bruce
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Grogan, John
Campbell-Savours, Dale Gunnell, John
Cann, Jamie Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Caplin, Ivor Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Caton, Martin Hanson David
Cawsey, Ian Harman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Chaytor, David Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Clapham, Michael Hendrick, Mark
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields) Hepburn, Stephen
Clark, Paul (Gillingham) Heppell, John
Clarke, Charles (Norwich S) Hesford, Stephen
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Hewitt, Ms Patricia
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) Hinchliffe, David
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S) Hodge, MS Margaret
Clelland, David Hope, Phil
Coaker, Vernon Hopkins, Kelvin
Coffey, Ms Ann Howarth, George (Knowsley N)
Cohen, Harry Howells, Dr Kim
Coleman, Iain Hoyle, Lindsay
Colman, Tony Hughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford)
Connarty, Michael Humble, Mrs Joan
Cooper, Yvette Hutton, John
Corbett, Robin Iddon, Dr Brian
Corbyn, Jeremy Illsley, Eric
Cousins, Jim Jackson, Ms Glenda (Hampstead)
Cox, Tom Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)
Cranston, Ross Jamieson, David
Crausby, David Jenkins, Brian
Cryer, John (Hornchurch) Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle)
Cummings, John Jones, Mrs Fiona (Newark)
Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S) Jones, Helen (Warrington N)
Cunningham, Ms Roseanna (Perth) Jones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh'ton SW)
Darling, Rt Hon Alistair Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Darvill, Keith Jones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak)
Davey, Valerie (Bristol W) Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S)
Davidson, Ian Jowell, Ftt Hon Ms Tessa
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Joyce, Eric
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Davis, Rt Hon Terry (B'ham Hodge H) Keeble, Ms Sally
Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Dawson, Hilton Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)
Denham, Rt Hon John Kemp, Fraser
Dismore, Andrew Kidney, David
Dobbin, Jim Kilfoyle, Peter
Dobson, Rt Hon Frank King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Donohoe, Brian H Kumar, Dr Ashok
Doran, Frank Ladyman, Dr Stephen
Dowd, Jim Lammy, David
Drew, David Lawrence, Mrs Jackie
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Laxton, Bob
Eagle, Angela (Wallasey) Lepper, David
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston) Leslie Christopher
Edwards, Huw Levitt, Tom
Efford, Clive Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Ellman, Mrs Louise Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Ennis, Jeff Linton, Martin
Etherington, Bill Lock, David
Fisher, Mark Love, Andrew
Fitzpatrick, Jim McAvoy, Thomas
Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna McCabe, Steve
Flint, Caroline McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield)
Flynn, Paul
Foster, Rt Hon Derek McDonagh, Siobhain
Foulkes, George Macdonald, Calum
Galloway, George McDonnell, John
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S) McGuire, Mrs Anne
Gerrard, Neil McIsaac, Shona
Gibson, Dr Ian Mackinlay, Andrew
Gilroy, Mrs Linda McNamara Kevin
Golding, Mrs Llin McNulty, Tony
MacShane, Denis Salter, Martin
Mactaggart, Fiona Sarwar, Mohammad
McWalter, Tony Savidge, Malcolm
McWilliam, John Sawford, Phil
Mahon, Mrs Alice Sedgemore, Brian
Mallaber, Judy Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter Shipley, Ms Debra
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) Singh, Marsha
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury) Skinner, Dennis
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Smith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Martlew, Eric
Meacher, Rt Hon Michael Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Meale, Alan Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Merron, Gillian Soley, Clive
Michael, Rt Hon Alun Southworth, Ms Helen
Michie, Bill (Shef'ld Heeley) Spellar, John
Milburn, Rt Hon Alan Squire, Ms Rachel
Miller, Andrew Starkey, Dr Phyllis
Mitchell, Austin Steinberg, Gerry
Moffatt, Laura Stewart, Ian (Eccles)
Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N) Stinchcombe, Paul
Morris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley) Stoate, Dr Howard
Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin
Morris, Rt Hon Sir John (Aberavon) Stringer, Graham
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Mullin, Chris Sutcliffe, Gerry
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Murphy, Jim (Eastwood)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen) Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
Naysmith, Dr Doug Taylor, David (NW Leics)
Norris, Dan Temple-Morris, Peter
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton) Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
O'Hara, Eddie Timms, Stephen
Olner, Bill Tipping, Paddy
O'Neill, Martin Todd, Mark
Organ, Mrs Diana Touhig, Don
Pearson, Ian Trickett, Jon
Pickthall, Colin Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Pike, Peter L Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Pond, Chris Turner, Dr George (NW Norfolk)
Pope, Greg Turner, Neil (Wigan)
Pound, Stephen Twigg, Derek (Halton)
Powell, Sir Raymond Twigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) Vaz, Keith
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) Vis, Dr Rudi
Prescott, Rt Hon John Walley, Ms Joan
Primarolo, Dawn Ward, Ms Claire
Prosser, Gwyn Wareing, Robert N
Purchase, Ken Watts, David
Quin, Rt Hon Ms Joyce White Brian
Quinn, Lawrie Whitehead, Dr Alan
Rammell, Bill Wicks, Malcolm
Raynsford, Nick Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Reed, Andrew (Loughborough) Williams, Alan W (E Carmarthen)
Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland) Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Wills, Michael
Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW) Winnick, David
Rogers, Allan Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Rooker, Rt Hon Jeff Woodward, Shaun
Rooney, Terry Woolas, Phil
Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) Wray, James
Rowlands, Ted Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Roy, Frank Wright, Tony (Cannock)
Ruane, Chris Wyatt, Derek
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Ms Christine (Chester) Tellers for the Ayes:
Ryan, Ms Joan Mr. Kevin Hughes and
Salmond, Alex Mr. Graham Allen.
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey) Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy
Allan, Richard Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)
Amess, David Baker, Norman
Ancram, Rt Hon Michael Baldry, Tony
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon James Ballard, Jackie
Beggs, Roy Johnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Beith, Rt Hon AJ
Bell, Martin (Tatton) Keetch, Paul
Bercow, John Key, Robert
Beresford, Sir Paul Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Blunt, Crispin Kirkwood, Archy
Body, Sir Richard Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Boswell, Tim Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W) Lansley, Andrew
Bottomley, Rt Hon Mrs Virginia Leigh, Edward
Brady, Graham Letwin, Oliver
Brake, Tom Lewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Brand, Dr Peter Lidington, David
Brazier, Julian Livsey, Richard
Breed, Colin Lloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Loughton, Tim
Browning, Mrs Angela Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) McCrea, Dr William
Burnett, John McIntosh, Miss Anne
Burns, Simon MacKay, Rt Hon Andrew
Burstow, Paul Maclean, Rt Hon David
Butterfill, John McLoughlin, Patrick
Cash, William Malins, Humfrey
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet) Maples, John
Mates, Michael
Chope, Christopher Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh) Moore, Michael
Clark, Rt Hon Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Moss, Malcolm
Nicholls, Patrick
Collins, Tim Norman, Archie
Cormack, Sir Patrick Oaten, Mark
Cotter, Brian O'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Cran, James Öpik, Lembit
Curry, Rt Hon David Ottaway, Richard
Davey, Edward (Kingston) Page, Richard
Davies, Quentin (Grantham) Pickles, Eric
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice) Portillo, Rt Hon Michael
Day, Stephen Prior, David
Duncan, Alan Randall, John
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter Redwood, Rt Hon John
Evans, Nigel Rendel, David
Fabricant, Michael Robertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Fallon, Michael Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Feam, Ronnie Russell, Bob (Colchester)
Flight, Howard St Aubyn, Nick
Forth, Rt Hon Eric Sanders, Adrian
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman Sayeed, Jonathan
Fox, Dr Liam Shephard, Rt Hon Mrs Gillian
Gale, Roger Shepherd, Richard
Garnier, Edward Simpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk)
George, Andrew (St Ives) Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Gibb, Nick Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Gidley, Sandra Soames, Nicholas
Gill, Christopher Spelman, Mrs Caroline
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl Spring, Richard
Gorman, Mrs Teresa Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Gray, James Steen, Anthony
Greenway, John Streeter, Gary
Grieve, Dominic Stunell, Andrew
Gummer, Rt Hon John Swayne, Desmond
Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir Archie Syms, Robert
Hammond, Philip Taylor, Ian (Esher & Walton)
Hancock, Mike Taylor, Rt Hon John D (Strangford)
Harris, Dr Evan Taylor, Sir Teddy
Harvey, Nick Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Hayes, John Tonge, Dr Jenny
Heald, Oliver Townend, John
Heath, David (Somerton & Frome) Tredinnick, David
Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David Trend, Michael
Horam, John Tyler, Paul
Howard, Rt Hon Michael Viggers, Peter
Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot) Walter, Robert
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) Waterson, Nigel
Hunter, Andrew Webb, Steve
Jackson, Robert (Wantage) Whitney, Sir Raymond
Jenkin, Bernard Whittingdale, John
Widdecombe, Rt Hon Miss Ann Yeo, Tim
Wilkinson, John Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Willetts, David
Willis, Phil Tellers for the Noes:
Wilshire, David Mr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton) and
Winterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield) Mr. Peter Luff.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Bill read the Third time, and passed.