HC Deb 30 October 2000 vol 355 cc551-4
Mr. Tipping

I beg to move amendment No. 11, in page 8, line 3, leave out "or refused".

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Alan Haselhurst)

With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 12 to 18 and 32.

Mr. Tipping

Clause 3 already makes provision in relation to the coverage of public appointments, dignities and honours under the Race Relations Act 1976. These amendments will improve the current provision in the Bill in two ways. First, they will make improvements to the drafting of the provision. More substantively, they will bring within the scope of the provision a substantial new area—that of discrimination involving the terms and conditions of appointments or the termination of the appointment.

I shall deal with the latter, more substantive matter first. I note that the hon. Member for Southwark, North and Bermondsey (Mr. Hughes) is nodding. I think that he can take pride in this matter, which he pursued in Committee. We gave an undertaking to reflect on it, and I hope that we have met his needs to a large extent. The Government propose to extend the protection against discrimination in relation to appointments that is provided under section 76 of the Race Relations Act 1976, as amended under the Bill. It should cover discrimination not only in the arrangements for determining who should be appointed, but in the terms and conditions of the appointment, in the termination of the appointment or in subjecting the appointee to any other detriment.

Thus, overall, it will be unlawful for a Minister or Department to discriminate in relation to the terms of the appointment; the way the appointee is afforded access to opportunities for promotion, transfer, training or any other benefits, facilities or services; the refusal or omission to afford access to such things; the termination of the appointment; or subjecting the appointee to any other detriment. Discrimination against appointees and potential appointees will be unlawful in those circumstances where it is unlawful against employees under section 4(2) of the Race Relations Act, thereby improving the protection afforded to appointees by our race discrimination legislation.

Some drafting improvements have also been made to those provisions. The position for negative recommendations and refusals, including deliberate omissions, is now set out separately, making it clearer that they are covered by the provisions, as are positive recommendations and approvals.

The drafting for the extension of the Act to appointments, dignities and honours made on the recommendation or approval of Ministers or Departments has been brought more into line with the drafting of the existing provision in section 76(2) of the Act for appointments made by Ministers or Departments. The effect is to clarify the application of the provision, making it clear that a Minister or Department, in making recommendations or approvals, should do nothing that would be unlawful under the Act—as though the appointee were an employee, and the Crown the employer. It has been made clear that the sanctions provided under sections 53(2) to 53(4) are the only sanctions on the appointments, conferments and other acts covered by section 76.

The opportunity has been taken to introduce provisions to ensure that not only the recommendations and approvals of Ministers and Departments in relation to life peerages but those of bodies set up by Ministers for that purpose are covered by the provisions. The Committee spent some time considering this complex matter and we have listened to its views. I hope that the amendments represent improvements, and I commend them to the House.

Mr. Simon Hughes

I am grateful to the Government for responding to our concerns. They do not represent three-star, flashing light, huge legislative matters. I do not pretend that they are the central part of the Government's programme.

Mr. Tipping

The hon. Gentleman underestimates his powers.

6.15 pm
Mr. Hughes

Even on our shopping list, they are not matters that we would have died for in Committee. None the less, the Government have tried to bring within the same system appointments or selections under the slightly anomalous routes by which people are given honours. As far as I and those who advise me have been able to work out, our concerns have been met. A minor caveat remains in that I am not sure that the Minister can be absolutely certain that the small print is perfect. However, I am pleased that the Bill has been improved; it will become more consistent legislation. I am grateful to those behind the scenes who have helped to make that happen.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendments made: No. 12, in page 8, line 7, leave out first "the" and insert "a".

No. 13, in page 8, line 9, leave out "or refused".

No. 14, in page 8, line 11, leave out from "giving" to end of line 18 and insert— 'the approval, and in making the arrangements for determining who should be recommended or approved, the Minister of the Crown or government department shall not do an act which would be unlawful under section 4 if the recommendation or approval were an offer of employment and the Crown were the employer for the purposes of this Act.

(6) Subsections (3) to (5) do not apply in relation to the making of negative recommendations.

(6A) Subsection (6C) applies to—

  1. (a) any negative recommendation made by a Minister of the Crown or government department, or any refusal to make a recommendation by such a Minister or department, in relation to an appointment to an office or post where section 4 does not apply in relation to the appointment, and
  2. (b) any approval refused by such a Minister or department in relation to any such appointment.

(6B) Subsection (6C) also applies to—

  1. (a) any negative recommendation made by a Minister of the Crown or government department, or any refusal to make a recommendation by such a Minister or department, in relation to a conferment by the Crown of a dignity or honour; and
  2. (b) any approval refused by such a Minister or department in relation to any such conferment.

(6C) In making a negative recommendation or in refusing to make a recommendation or give an approval, and in making the arrangements for determining, whether to make such a recommendation or refusal, the Minister of the Crown or government department shall not do an act which would be unlawful under section 4 if the recommendation or refusal were a refusal to offer the person concerned employment and the Crown were the employer for the purposes of this Act.

(6D) Subsection (6E) applies in relation to any appointment to an office or post where section 4 does not apply and—

  1. (a) the appointment is made by a Minister of the Crown or government department, or
  2. (b) the office or post is an office or post in relation to which a Minister of the Crown or government department has made a recommendation (other than a negative recommendation) or given an approval.

(6E) A Minister of the Crown or government department shall not do an act in connection with—

  1. (a) the terms of the appointment;
  2. (b) access for the person appointed to opportunities for promotion, transfer or training, or to any other benefits, facilities or services; or
  3. (c) the termination of the appointment, or subjecting the person appointed to any other detriment;
which would be unlawful under section 4 if the Crown were the employer for the purposes of this Act.'.

No. 15, in page 8, line 21, after "(5)" insert— ', subsection (6C) or, in relation to an appointment falling within subsection (6D)(b), subsection (6E)'.

No. 16, in page 8, line 25, at end insert— '( ) The sanctions provided by virtue of the operation of section 53(2) to (4) in relation to this section shall be the only sanctions under this Act in relation to appointments, conferments and other acts to which this section applies.'.

No. 17, in page 8, line 27, leave out from first "to" to end of line 28 and insert— 'refusal include references to deliberate omission;'.

No. 18, in page 8, line 31, at end insert— 'and () references to Ministers of the Crown and government departments so far as they relate to the making of a recommendation or a refusal to make a recommendation, or the giving or refusal of an approval, in relation to a conferment of a peerage for life under section 1 of the Life Peerages Act 1958 include references to any body established by a Minister of the Crown to make such a recommendation to the Prime Minister or to determine whether to give such an approval.'.—[Mr. Touhig.]

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