HC Deb 08 July 1998 vol 315 cc1182-4
Mr. Lansley

I beg to move amendment No. 49, in page 64, line 8, leave out from 'person' to end of line 16 and insert 'is—

  1. (a) a puisne judge of the High Court;
  2. (b) a judge of the Court of Session; or
  3. (c) a judge of the Supreme Court of Northern Ireland,
and before appointing as a member of the appeal tribunal any person who holds the judicial office mentioned in paragraph (a), (b) or (c) he shall consult the Lord Chancellor, the President of the Court of Session or the Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland, as he considers appropriate.'.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

With this, it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 50, in page 64, leave out lines 19 and 20.

Mr. Lansley

The amendments work together in the sense that amendment No. 50 leaves out the requirement for consultation with the Lord Chancellor and other Law Officers, since that is incorporated into the proposed structure of amendment No. 49. The purpose of amendment No. 49 is to replace the requirement laid upon the Secretary of State in the existing paragraph 4 of schedule 7 to appoint someone with legal qualifications. It would make explicit that the person to be appointed was a High Court judge. In a similar debate in Committee, it was made clear that the Government intended that the person to be appointed would be not a High Court judge, but equivalent to a High Court judge.

The appeal panel will represent the Competition Commission in considering appeals against the decisions of the director general. It was certainly understood in Committee that the Government intended to be free to appoint to the panel members who had not only suitable legal qualifications, but the ability to assess the economic character of the judgments. Those who bring appeals will believe that it is in their interests regularly to go to the courts rather than to rest on the decisions of the panel if they feel that the panel does not have the necessary legal credibility to give robust judgments that are likely only in the most exceptional cases—such as where high principles are at stake—to be overturned by the courts in a further appeal. We were at pains to make that point in Committee, but I do not feel that it was sufficiently taken on board.

To ensure that the appeal panel functions in the best way, the panel and the president of the appeal tribunals should bring the maximum legal credibility to their judgments, but that will not be achieved if the president is appointed on the ground of his or her economic credibility. The director general and other members of the commission are likely to have economic credibility, but those who appeal against the director general's decisions must have sufficient faith in the legal credibility of the system not to make a further appeal or even to circumvent the procedure.

Mr. Boswell

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way, as I want to deal with the matter by way of intervention, not in a substantive speech. Does he agree that there is a real risk that there will be a much higher incidence of appeals against a tribunal's decision to a higher court and that it would be counter-productive not to incorporate into the Bill a provision such as the one suggested in the amendments?

Mr. Lansley

I agree. Our intention is to make the process work in the best interests of British industry, but industry will not be well served if it finds that, because of tribunals' lack of legal credibility, it regularly has to have recourse to the higher courts. The tribunals must provide a forum in which economically and legally credible decisions can be made straightforwardly and inexpensively. It is difficult to see how that could be achieved without a High Court judge as president of the tribunals.

Mr. Ian McCartney

Like the hon. Member for South Cambridgeshire (Mr. Lansley), I am convinced that we need robust decision-making processes that have clarity as their central focus. I also believe that the membership of the panels must be credible in terms of the law, of business practice and of economics. The panels will be similar to the restrictive practice courts, where all three key pillars are consistent throughout the membership.

That is very important. If the process is to work, there must be a clear understanding from the outset that the membership must have a quality and credibility that ensure that people can accept a tribunal's decisions. We can all agree that access to full and independent appeal on the merits of the case is essential in ensuring that the new regime is fair and transparent. The Bill provides for precisely such a right of appeal.

Our proposals provide a clear separation between the body that has the investigative and original decision-making function and the body that hears appeals. Such a separation is essential to ensure a fair, independent and transparent appeals process. We achieve the separation by making the appeals tribunal a completely separate body from the Office of Fair Trading, which has the primary responsibility for investigating and dealing with infringements.

In its response to the consultation document, the Confederation of British Industry said: We are pleased that the Government has taken into account the suggestions put forward by the CBI and has chosen to preserve an independent body with the power to conduct a full review of the DGFT's decisions. Fairness demands that appeals can be dealt with efficiently and by people with the necessary expertise and experience. We believe that our proposals for a specialised tribunal will best achieve that aim. We are clear that the person appointed to be president of the tribunal will be a senior figure, with status at least equivalent to that of a High Court judge.

The tribunal itself will have equivalent status to the High Court and appeals from its decisions on points of law or levels of penalty will be direct to the Court of Appeal. It is clearly essential that the president should have appropriate legal qualifications, experience and standing, and strict minimum requirements are set out in schedules to the Bill.

We do not think that it would be right to limit further the range of people and expertise available to fill this vital post, as the amendments would do. General legal standing is vital, but so are special knowledge and experience of competition matters. We do not believe that it would be in the interests of the users of the appeal tribunal to limit the field of potential candidates to High Court judges alone, as the amendments propose. Our proposals will open up a much wider range of potential candidates. We believe that that is very important in what is, after all, a complex and specialist field.

I hope that, having heard that explanation of our position, the hon. Gentleman will be prepared to withdraw the amendment.

Mr. Lansley

I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. He has made clear the Government's intention to meet the tests of legal credibility that were implicit in the amendment, rather than limiting the tests to other kinds of credibility that will be vested elsewhere, in the activities of the director general and the commission. I therefore beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

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