HC Deb 10 December 1997 vol 302 cc1031-2 4.43 pm
Mr. Gerald Bermingham (St. Helens, South)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I seek your guidance and assistance. Last night in the Aye Lobby the roof began to leak. It leaked through the electric lighting apparatus, thus causing the common risk found in industrial premises where electricity is mixed with water: the risk of fire. Anyone who knows anything about industrial safety knows how dangerous that is.

I have experienced that in a building, so I know what the smell, the flash and the fear are like; the incident has lived with me ever since it occurred 20 years ago. Last night in the Lobby, that began to happen and we began to smell burning rubber. The doors were locked, and there was no way in which the Department of the Serjeant at Arms could conduct the necessary investigation or take the necessary steps.

Would not it be a good idea, in such instances, if the procedures of the House allowed for a short break in proceedings so that the safety, fire and other authorities could make proper investigations?

Mr. Nicholas Winterton (Macclesfield)

Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. In support of the hon. Member for St. Helens, South (Mr. Bermingham), I should like to say that this is not the first time that that roof leak has taken place. It has taken place at least once, if not twice before. The authorities of the House should put the matter right. It is intolerable that we should be subjected to this experience.

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Mr. Michael Lord)

Last night's incident involving a small flood above the ceiling of the Aye Lobby has been reported to me. I understand that, although water entered the electric light fitting, causing some smoke, fumes and shorting, there was no risk to hon. Members during the Division. The fitting was isolated and has now been repaired.

Mr. John Swinney (North Tayside)

On a separate point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. On a day on which it has been made clear that the Opposition will support the Government on child benefit for lone parents, would it be appropriate for Madam Speaker and yourself to consider allocating the role of official Opposition to another party that is prepared truly to oppose the Government?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

The hon. Gentleman will be aware that it is entirely at the Chair's discretion who is called to speak and in what order.

Mr. John Austin (Erith and Thamesmead)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am grateful for the assurance that you gave the House in response to my hon. Friend the Member for St. Helens, South (Mr. Bermingham), but are you aware—

Mr. Deputy Speaker

Order. I have already dealt with that point of order.

Mr. Austin

It is a separate matter. You said that the situation was safe, but were you aware that the London fire brigade was denied access to the Lobby after it had been summoned?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

I am not aware of that detail. If that is the case, I am sure that the matter will be noted.

Mr. Nicholas Winterton

Further to the point of order raised by the Liberal Democrat Member, Mr. Deputy Speaker—[Laughter.] He is a Scottish Nationalist, I am sorry.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

Order. I have dealt with that point of order, and there is no need to return to it.

Mr. Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Some of us who are rather keen on International Development questions were disturbed today that there was so much noise in the last 10 minutes coming from hon. Members on the Liberal Democrat Benches. They seemed to think that they were at a Liberal Democrat tea or coffee morning. It was impossible to hear Ministers' answers or supplementary questions for 10 minutes before Prime Minister's questions. Could some attention be paid by the Chair to keeping Liberal Democrat Members quiet and sending them to their coffee mornings, if that is where they prefer to be?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

I understand that Madam Speaker made some remarks about the amount of noise in the Chamber today. I hope very much that hon. Members will heed those remarks.