§ 14. Mr. Nigel GriffithsTo ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received alleging failure to control rats by the water and sewerage companies. [28040]
§ Mr. AtkinsIt seems singularly appropriate that rats should be answering a question about rats. My Department has received no such representations.
§ Mr. GriffithsHas the Minister seen the report released in June by the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health? It shows—if the Minister had chosen to inform himself, he would know this—that the number of rat infestations has increased by more than 40 per cent., that one in seven houses is now infested with rats and that the water companies have slashed the budgets of pest control officers. Is the Minister satisfied with those cuts, which have obviously been used to fund some of the boardroom bonanzas?
§ Mr. AtkinsAccording to the survey that was carried out, there has been an increase in the number of infestations from 4.4 per cent. to 4.8 per cent. I suggest that most of those are in Monklands.
§ Mr. FabricantWhat does my right hon. Friend intend to do about an infestation in Staffordshire that we do not 344 enjoy? They moan about the standard spending assessment, they have more than £70 million held in reserves and they threaten school children with teachers losing their jobs? Should not we do something about the rats in Labour-controlled Staffordshire county council?
§ Mr. AtkinsMy hon. Friend has a point. However, there is a serious issue. Scare stories are being spread by the likes of the hon. Member for Edinburgh, South (Mr. Griffiths) to suggest that rats are on the increase. There has been a small increase in certain areas, but the problem must be viewed in proportion. According to the survey by the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health, the number of rats has increased by 0.4 per cent. In those circumstances, the stories from Opposition Members are little more than scaremongering and my hon. Friend has a better point than the hon. Member for Edinburgh, South.
Mr. BanksSince the Minister seems to know precisely the percentage increase, what is the United Kingdom population of rats?
§ Mr. AtkinsIt depends whether they are rattus vulgaris or whether they are black rats. My comment about Monklands would apply to the black rats.