§ 28. Mr. Duncan
To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what progress the Government are making with their market-testing programme. 
§ Mr. Duncan
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that answer. Does it not contrast starkly with Labour party 496 policy, which seems to be against such efficiency savings? Indeed, as a result, the Labour party seems to be in favour of inefficiency and therefore higher taxation. What savings does my hon. Friend estimate we are likely to make in the forthcoming year?
§ Ms Walley
Will the Minister look at the way in which the issue is being raised in the health service? Will he look closely at the decision of an industrial tribunal in Birmingham today? The transfer of a particular contract from one part of the health service to another has been found to be unlawful in the European Court because of the rules on the transfer of undertakings. When will the Government recognise that the exercise does not take into account the long term but looks only at certain so-called efficiency savings without considering the total cost and the dismantling of organisations such as the national health service.
§ Mr. Horam
The programme does take account of the long term. Clearly, it is beginning to be a long-term factor. It started in the late 1980s and has carried on successfully over the years. If the hon. Lady would care to give me details of the specific example that she mentioned, I will certainly look into it.
§ Dame Elaine Kellett-Bowman
Is there any reason why in-house bids should not be acceptable, particularly, for example, in the running of pension funds?