HC Deb 13 April 1994 vol 241 cc338-41

Amendment proposed: No. 281, in page 85, line 11, after 'discipline', insert 'otherwise than by an act in contemplation or furtherance of a trade dispute to which the Secretary of State is a party being a Minister falling within section 244(2) of the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992.'.—[Mr. Michael.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House divided: Ayes 243, Noes 290.

Division No. 206] [11.16 pm
AYES
Abbott, Ms Diane Davidson, Ian
Adams, Mrs Irene Davies, Bryan (Oldham C'tral)
Ainger, Nick Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)
Allen, Graham Denham, John
Alton, David Dewar, Donald
Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) Dixon, Don
Anderson, Ms Janet (Ros'dale) Dobson, Frank
Armstrong, Hilary Donohoe, Brian H.
Ashton, Joe Dowd, Jim
Austin-Walker, John Dunnachie, Jimmy
Barnes, Harry Eagle, Ms Angela
Barron, Kevin Enright, Derek
Battle, John Etherington, Bill
Bayley, Hugh Evans, John (St Helens N)
Beith, Rt Hon A. J. Ewing, Mrs Margaret
Bell, Stuart Faulds, Andrew
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Bennett, Andrew F. Fisher, Mark
Benton, Joe Flynn, Paul
Bermingham, Gerald Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Berry, Roger Foster, Don (Bath)
Betts, Clive Foulkes, George
Blair, Tony Fraser, John
Boateng, Paul Fyfe, Maria
Bradley, Keith Galbraith, Sam
Bray, Dr Jeremy Galloway, George
Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) Gapes, Mike
Burden, Richard Garrett, John
Caborn, Richard George, Bruce
Callaghan, Jim Gerrard, Neil
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Godman, Dr Norman A.
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Godsiff, Roger
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Golding, Mrs Llin
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Gordon, Mildred
Cann, Jamie Graham, Thomas
Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) Grant, Bernie (Tottenham)
Chisholm, Malcolm Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Clapham, Michael Grocott, Bruce
Clark, Dr David (South Shields) Gunnell, John
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Hain, Peter
Clarke, Torn (Monklands W) Hall, Mike
Clelland, David Hanson, David
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Harvey, Nick
Coffey, Ann Heppell, John
Connarty, Michael Hill, Keith (Streatham)
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Hinchliffe, David
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Hoey, Kate
Corbett, Robin Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld)
Corbyn, Jeremy Home Robertson, John
Corston, Ms Jean Hood, Jimmy
Cousins, Jim Hoon, Geoffrey
Cox, Tom Howarth, George (Knowsley N)
Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd)
Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr John Hoyle, Doug
Dafis, Cynog Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Dalyell, Tam Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Darling, Alistair Hutton, John
Illsley, Eric Parry, Robert
Adam, Adam Patchett, Terry
Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) Pendry, Tom
Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) Pickthall, Colin
Jamieson, David Pike, Peter L.
Jones, leuan Wyn (Ynys Môn) Pope, Greg
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E)
Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) Primarolo Dawn
Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) Purchase, Ken
Jowell, Tessa Quin, Ms Joyce
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Radice, Giles
Keen, Alan Raynsford, Nick
Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) Rendel, David
Khabra, Piara S. Robertson, George (Hamilton)
Kilfoyle, Peter Robinson, Geoffrey (Co'try NW)
Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) Roche, Mrs. Barbara
Lestor, Joan (Eccles) Rogers, Allan
Lewis, Terry Rooker, Jeff
Livingstone, Ken Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) Rowlands, Ted
Llwyd, Elfyn Ruddock, Joan
Loyden, Eddie Sedgemore, Brian
McAllion, John Sheerman, Bary
McAvoy, Thomas Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
McCartney, Ian Short, Clare
Macdonald, Calum Simpson, Alan
McFall, John Skinner, Dennis
McKelvey, William Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
Mackinlay, Andrew Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury)
McLeish, Henry Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)
Maclennan, Robert Soley, Clive
McMaster, Gordon Spearing, Nigel
McNamara, Kevin Spellar, John
McWilliam, John Squire, Rachael (Dunfermline W)
Madden, Max Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
Maddock, Mrs Diana Steinberg, Gerry
Mahon, Alice Stevenson, George
Mandelson, Peter Stott, Roger
Marek, Dr John Strang, Dr. Gavin
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S) Turner, Dennis
Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) Tyler, Paul
Martlew, Eric Vaz, Keith
Maxton, John Walker, Rt Hon Sir Harold
Meacher, Michael Wallace, James
Meale, Alan Walley, Joan
Michael, Alun Wardell, Gareth (Gower)
Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) Wareing, Robert N
Milburn, Alan Watson, Mike
Miller, Andrew Welsh, Andrew
Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) Wicks, Malcolm
Moonie, Dr Lewis Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Sw'n W)
Morgan, Rhodri Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen)
Morley, Elliot Wilson, Brian
Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Winnick, David
Mowlam, Marjorie Wise, Audrey
Mudie, George Worthington, Tony
Mullin, Chris Wray, Jimmy
Murphy, Paul Wright, Dr Tony
O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) Young, David (Bolton SE)
O'Brien, William (Normanton)
O'Hara, Edward Tellers for the Ayes:
Olner, William Mr. Stephen Byers and
O'Neill, Martin Mr. Ray Powell.
Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E)
Aitken, Jonathan Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)
Alexander, Richard Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley)
Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North)
Allason, Rupert (Torbay) Baldry, Tony
Amess, David Banks, Matthhew (Southport)
Arbuthnot, James Banks, Robert (Harrogate)
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Bates, Michael
Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) Batiste, Spencer
Ashby, David Bendall, Vivian
Aspinwall, Jack Blackburn, Dr John G.
Atkins, Robert Bonsor, Sir Nicholas
Booth, Hartley Gorst, John
Boswell, Tim Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW)
Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)
Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia Greenway, John (Ryedale)
Bowden, Andrew Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N)
Bowis, John Grylls, Sir Michael
Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn
Brandreth, Gyles Hague, William
Brazier, Julian Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir Archie
Bright, Graham Hamilton, Neil Tatton)
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Hampson, Dr Keith
Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) Hanley, Jeremy
Browning, Mrs. Angela Hannam, Sir John
Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) Hargreaves, Andrew
Budgen, Nicholas Harris, David
Burns, Simon Haselhurst, Alan
Burt, Alistair Hawkins, Nick
Carlisle, John (Luton North) Hawksley, Warren
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Hayes, Jerry
Carrington, Matthew Heald, Oliver
Carttiss, Michael Heathcoat-Armory, David
Cash, William Hendry, Charles
Chapman, Sydney Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L.
Churchill, Mr Hill, James (Southampton Test)
Clappison, James Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rockford) Horam, John
Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey Howard, Rt Hon Michael
Coe, Sebastian Howarth, Alan (Stra'rd-on-A)
Colvin, Michael Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Congdon, David Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk)
Conway, Derek Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W)
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John Hunter, Andrew
Couchman, James Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas
Gran, James Jack, Michael
Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) Jackson, Robert (Wantage)
Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) Jenkin, Bernard
Davies, Quentin (Stamford) Jessel, Toby
Davis, David (Boothferry) Johnson, Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Day, Stephen Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Deva, Nirj Joseph Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr)
Devlin, Tim Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Dickens, Geoffrey Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Key, Robert
Dover, Den King, Rt Hon Tom
Duncan, Alan Kirkhope, Timothy
Duncan-Smith, Iain Knapman, Roger
Dunn, Bob Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash)
Eggar, Tim Knight, Greg (Derby N)
Elletson, Harold Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n)
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter Knox, Sir David
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) Kynoch, Geroge (Kincardine)
Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) Lang, Rt Hon Ian
Evans, Roger (Monmouth) Lawrence, Sir Ivan
Evennett, David Legg, Barry
Faber, David Leigh, Edward
Fabricant, Michael Lennox-Boyd, Mark
Fairbaim, Sir Nicholas Lester, Jim (Broxtowe)
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) Lidington, David
Fishbum, Dudley Lightbown, David
Forman, Nigel Lilley, Rt Hon Peter
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Lloyd, Rt Hon Peter (Fareham)
Forth, Eric Lord, Michael
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman Luff, Peter
Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) Macgregor, Rt Hon John
Freeman, Rt Hon Roger Maclean, David
French, Douglas McLoughlin, Patrick
Gale, Roger McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick
Gallie, Phil Madel, Sir David
Gardiner, Sir George Maitland, Lady Olga
Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan Malone, Gerald
Garnier, Edward Mans, Keith
Gill, Christopher Marland, Paul
Gillan, Cheryl Marlow, Tony
Goodlad, Rt Hon Alastair Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Gorman, Mrs Teresa Mates, Michael
Mawhinney, Rt Hon Dr Brian Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Mellor, Rt Hon David Spink, Dr Robert
Merchant, Piers Spring, Richard
Mills, Iain Sproat, Iain
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) Squire, Robin (Hornchurch)
Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Moate, Sir Roger Steen Anthony
Monro, Sir Hector Stephen, Michael
Montgomery, Sir Fergus Stewart, Allan
Moss, Malcolm Streeter, Gary
Needham, Richard Sumberg, David
Nelson, Anthony Sweeney, Walter
Neubert, Sir Michael Sykes, John
Newton, Rt Hon Tony Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Nicholls, Patrick Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E)
Nicholson, David (Taunton) Temple-Morris, Peter
Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) Thomason, Roy
Norris, Steve Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V)
Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Oppenheim, Phillip Thomton, Peter
Ottaway, Richard Thurnham, Peter
Page, Richard Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th)
Paice, James Tracey, Richard
Patnick, Irvine Tredinnick, David
Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Trend, Michael
Pawsey, James Trotter, Neville
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth Twinn, Dr Ian
Pickles, Eric Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Porter, Barry (Wirral S) Viggers, Peter
Porter, David (Waveney) Waldegrave, Rt Hon William
Portillo, Rt Hon Michael Walden, George
Redwood, Rt Hon John Walker, Bill (N Tayside)
Renton, Rt Hon Tim Waller, Gary
Richards, Rod Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Riddick, Graham Waterson, Nigel
Robathan, Andrew Watts, John
Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn Wells, Bowen
Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) Whitney, Ray
Robinson, Mark (Somerton) Whittingdale, John
Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) Widdecombe, Ann
Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela Wiggin, Sir Jerry
Sackville, Tom Wilkinson, John
Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas Willetts, David
Shaw, David (Dover) Wilshire, David
Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian Winterton, Nicholas (Macc'fld)
Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) Wolfson, Mark
Shersby, Michael Yeo Tim
Sims, Roger Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Skeet, Sir Trevor
Soames, Nicholas Tellers for the Noes:
Speed, Sir Keith Mr. Timothy Wood and
Spencer, Sir Derek Mr. Andrew McKay.
Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset)

Question accordingly negatived.

Amendments made: No. 217, in page 85, line 39, at end insert— '(6A) This section shall be disregarded in determining for the purposes of any of the relevant employment legislation whether any trade union is an independent trade union.'.

No. 218, in page 85, line 40, leave out '(within the meaning of section 112 above)'.

No. 219, in page 85, line 42, at end add— '(7A) In this section "the relevant employment legislation" has the same meaning as in section 112 above.'—[Mr. Maclean.]

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