§ Lords amendment: No 196, in page 92, line 35, at end insert—
§ ("() The local education authority shall ensure the availability of goods and services to assist governing bodies in their duties under section 153(1)(a) of this Act.")
§ Motion made, and question put, That this House doth disaggree with the Lords in the said amendment.—[Mr. Forth.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 296, Noes 240.
143| Division No. 346] | [11.5 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Cash, William |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Channon, Rt Hon Paul |
| Alexander, Richard | Churchill, Mr |
| Alison. Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Clappison, James |
| Amess, David | Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) |
| Arbuthnot, James | Coe, Sebastian |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Colvin, Michael |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Congdon, David |
| Ashby, David | Conway, Derek |
| Aspinwall. Jack | Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Coombs, Simon (Swindon) |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Cope, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Cormack, Patrick |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Couchman, James |
| Baldry, Tony | Cran, James |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) |
| Bates, Michael | Davies, Quentin (Stamford) |
| Batiste, Spencer | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Day, Stephen |
| Bendall, Vivian | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Devlin, Tim |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Dickens, Geoffrey |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Dicks, Terry |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Dorrell. Stephen |
| Booth, Hartley | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Boswell, Tim | Dover, Den |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Duncan, Alan |
| Bottomley. Rt Hon Virginia | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Bowden, Andrew | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Bowis, John | Eggar, Tim |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Elletson, Harold |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Brazier, Julian | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Bright, Graham | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Evennett, David |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Faber, David |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Fabricant, Michael |
| Burns, Simon | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Burt, Alistair | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Butcher, John | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Butler, Peter | Forman, Nigel |
| Carlisle. John (Luton North) | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Forth, Eric |
| Carrington, Matthew | Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman |
| Carttiss. Michael | Fox. Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | Madel, David |
| French, Douglas | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Fry, Peter | Malone, Gerald |
| Gale, Roger | Mans, Keith |
| Gallie, Phil | Marland, Paul |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Marlow, Tony |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Garnier, Edward | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Gill, Christopher | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Gillan, Cheryl | Mates, Michael |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Mellor, Rt Hon David |
| Gorman, Mrs Teresa | Merchant, Piers |
| Gorst, John | Mills, Iain |
| Grant, Sir Anthony (Cambs SW) | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) | Monro, Sir Hector |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Montgomery, Sir Fergus |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Moss, Malcolm |
| Hague, William | Nelson, Anthony |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Newton, Rt Hon Tony |
| Hampson, Dr Keith | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Hannam, Sir John | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Norris, Steve |
| Harris, David | Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Hawkins, Nick | Ottaway, Richard |
| Hawksley, Warren | Page, Richard |
| Hayes, Jerry | Paice, James |
| Heald, Oliver | Patnick, Irvine |
| Hendry, Charles | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L. | Pawsey, James |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Horam, John | Pickles, Eric |
| Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Porter, Barry (Wirral S) |
| Howard, Rt Hon Michael | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) | Rathbone, Tim |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Richards, Rod |
| Hunter, Andrew | Riddick, Graham |
| Jack, Michael | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Robathan, Andrew |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Jessel, Toby | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Key, Robert | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Sackville, Tom |
| King, Rt Hon Tom | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Knapman, Roger | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Shersby, Michael |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Sims, Roger |
| Knox, Sir David | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Speed, Sir Keith |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Legg, Barry | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Leigh, Edward | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Spring, Richard |
| Lidington, David | Sproat, Iain |
| Lightbown, David | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Lord, Michael | Steen, Anthony |
| Luff, Peter | Stephen, Michael |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Stern, Michael |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Stewart, Allan |
| MacKay, Andrew | Streeter, Gary |
| Maclean, David | Sumberg, David |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Sweeney, Walter |
| Sykes, John | Waller, Gary |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Ward, John |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Taylor, John M. (Solihull) | Waterson, Nigel |
| Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) | Watts, John |
| Temple-Morris, Peter | Wells, Bowen |
| Thomason, Roy | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) | Whitney, Ray |
| Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) | Whittingdale, John |
| Thornton, Sir Malcolm | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Thurnham, Peter | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Townend, John (Bridlington) | Wilkinson, John |
| Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) | Willetts, David |
| Tracey, Richard | Wilshire, David |
| Tredinnick, David | Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton) |
| Trend, Michael | Wolfson, Mark |
| Trotter, Neville | Yeo, Tim |
| Twinn, Dr Ian | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Vaughan, Sir Gerard | |
| Viggers, Peter | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Waldegrave, Rt Hon William | Mr. Sydney Chapman and Mr. Timothy Wood. |
| Walden, George |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Dafis, Cynog |
| Ainger, Nick | Dalyell, Tam |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Darling, Alistair |
| Allen, Graham | Davies, Bryan (Oldham C'tral) |
| Alton, David | Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l) |
| Ashton, Joe | Dixon, Don |
| Austin-Walker, John | Donohoe, Brian H. |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Dowd, Jim |
| Barnes, Harry | Dunnachie, Jimmy |
| Barron, Kevin | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth |
| Battle, John | Eagle, Ms Angela |
| Bayley, Hugh | Eastham, Ken |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Enright, Derek |
| Beggs, Roy | Etherington, Bill |
| Bell, Stuart | Evans, John (St Helens N) |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Fatchett, Derek |
| Benton, Joe | Fisher, Mark |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Flynn, Paul |
| Betts, Clive | Foster, Rt Hon Derek |
| Blunkett, David | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Boateng, Paul | Fraser, John |
| Boyce, Jimmy | Fyfe, Maria |
| Bradley, Keith | Galloway, George |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Garrett, John |
| Brown, Gordon (Dunfermline E) | George, Bruce |
| Burden, Richard | Gerrard, Neil |
| Byers, Stephen | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Caborn, Richard | Godsiff, Roger |
| Callaghan, Jim | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) | Gordon, Mildred |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Gould, Bryan |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Graham, Thomas |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Canavan, Dennis | Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) |
| Cann, Jamie | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Grocott, Bruce |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | Gunnell, John |
| Clapham, Michael | Hain, Peter |
| Clelland, David | Hall, Mike |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Hanson, David |
| Coffey, Ann | Hardy, Peter |
| Cohen, Harry | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Connarty, Michael | Heppell, John |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Hinchliffe, David |
| Corbett, Robin | Hoey, Kate |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Home Robertson, John |
| Cousins, Jim | Hood, Jimmy |
| Cox, Tom | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Cryer, Bob | Howarth, George (Knowsley N) |
| Cummings, John | Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Hoyle, Doug |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Patchett, Terry |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | Pickthall, Colin |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Hutton, John | Pope, Greg |
| Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) | Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) |
| Jamieson, David | Prescott, John |
| Janner, Greville | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Johnston, Sir Russell | Purchase, Ken |
| Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) | Quin, Ms Joyce |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Radice, Giles |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) | Randall, Stuart |
| Jowell, Tessa | Raynsford, Nick |
| Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | Redmond, Martin |
| Keen, Alan | Reid, Dr John |
| Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) | Rendel, David |
| Khabra, Piara S. | Robinson, Geoffrey (Co'try NW) |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | Roche, Mrs. Barbara |
| Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) | Rogers, Allan |
| Leighton, Ron | Rooker, Jeff |
| Lestor, Joan (Eccles) | Rooney, Terry |
| Lewis, Terry | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Litherland, Robert | Rowlands, Ted |
| Livingstone, Ken | Ruddock, Joan |
| Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Llwyd, Elfyn | Sheerman, Barry |
| Loyden, Eddie | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Lynne, Ms Liz | Simpson, Alan |
| McAllion, John | Skinner, Dennis |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| McCartney, Ian | Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) |
| Macdonald, Calum | Smith, Rt Hon John (M'kl'ds E) |
| McFall, John | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| McKelvey, William | Spearing, Nigel |
| Mackinlay, Andrew | Spellar, John |
| McLeish, Henry | Steel, Rt Hon Sir David |
| McMaster, Gordon | Steinberg, Gerry |
| McNamara, Kevin | Stevenson, George |
| McWilliam, John | Stott, Roger |
| Madden, Max | Strang, Dr. Gavin |
| Mahon, Alice | Straw, Jack |
| Mandelson, Peter | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Marek, Dr John | Tipping, Paddy |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Turner, Dennis |
| Martlew, Eric | Tyler, Paul |
| Meacher, Michael | Vaz, Keith |
| Meale, Alan | Walker, Rt Hon Sir Harold |
| Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Walley, Joan |
| Milburn, Alan | Warden, Gareth (Gower) |
| Miller, Andrew | Wareing, Robert N |
| Moonie, Dr Lewis | Watson, Mike |
| Morgan, Rhodri | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Morley, Elliot | Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Sw'n W) |
| Morris, Rt Hon A. (Wy'nshawe) | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) | Wilson, Brian |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Winnick, David |
| Mowlam, Marjorie | Worthington, Tony |
| Mudie, George | Wray, Jimmy |
| Mullin, Chris | Wright, Dr Tony |
| Murphy, Paul | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon | |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| O'Brien, William (Normanton) | Mr. Jack Thompson and Mr. Eric Illsley. |
| O'Hara, Edward | |
| Olner, William |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§
Lords amendment: No. 199, after clause 156, insert the following clause—Relationship of local education authority and grant-maintained special school—
(".—(1) The funding authority shall consult any local education authority which has in the previous three years named in a statement a school which is or has become a grant-maintained special school.
(2) A grant-maintained special school shall assist the authority in any inspection and review carried out under section (Duty to direct governing body to make special educational provision) below.
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(3) The funding authority and governing body of a grant-maintained special school shall consult any local education authority to which subsection (1) above applies on the range and type of provision at the school and of any proposals for a change of character.")
§ Motion made, and Question put, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment.—[Mr. Forth.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 298, Noes 238.
147| Division No. 347] | [11.17pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Day, Stephen |
| Alexander, Richard | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Devlin, Tim |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Dickens, Geoffrey |
| Amess, David | Dicks, Terry |
| Arbuthnot, James | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Dover, Den |
| Ashby, David | Duncan, Alan |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Dykes, Hugh |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Eggar, Tim |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Elletson, Harold |
| Baldry, Tony | Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Bates, Michael | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Batiste, Spencer | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Evennett, David |
| Bendall, Vivian | Faber, David |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Fabricant, Michael |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Booth, Hartley | Forman, Nigel |
| Boswell, Tim | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Forth, Eric |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman |
| Bowden, Andrew | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Bowis, John | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Brandreth, Gyles | French, Douglas |
| Brazier, Julian | Fry, Peter |
| Bright, Graham | Gale, Roger |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Gallie, Phil |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Garnier, Edward |
| Budgen. Nicholas | Gill, Christopher |
| Burns, Simon | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Burt, Alistair | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Butcher, John | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Butler, Peter | Gorst, John |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Grant, Sir Anthony (Cambs SW) |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Carrington, Matthew | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) |
| Cash, William | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Gummer. Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Chapman. Sydney | Hague, William |
| Churchill, Mr | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Clappison. James | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Coe, Sebastian | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Colvin, Michael | Hannam, Sir John |
| Congdon, David | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Harris, David |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Hawkins, Nick |
| Cormack, Patrick | Hawksley, Warren |
| Couchman, James | Hayes, Jerry |
| Cran, James | Heald, Oliver |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Hendry, Charles |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Hicks, Robert |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Higgins. Rt Hon Sir Terence L. |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Pickles, Eric |
| Horam, John | Porter, Barry (Wirral S) |
| Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Howard, Rt Hon Michael | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) | Rathbone, Tim |
| Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | Richards, Rod |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Riddick, Graham |
| Hunter, Andrew | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jack, Michael | Robathan, Andrew |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Jessel, Toby | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Sackville, Tom |
| Key, Robert | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| King, Rt Hon Tom | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Knapman, Roger | Shersby, Michael |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Sims, Roger |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Knox, Sir David | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Speed, Sir Keith |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Legg, Barry | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Leigh, Edward | Spring, Richard |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Sproat, Iain |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Lidington, David | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Lightbown, David | Steen, Anthony |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Stephen, Michael |
| Lord, Michael | Stern, Michael |
| Luff, Peter | Stewart, Allan |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Streeter, Gary |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Sumberg, David |
| MacKay, Andrew | Sweeney, Walter |
| Maclean, David | Sykes, John |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Madel, David | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Malone, Gerald | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Mans, Keith | Thomason, Roy |
| Marland, Paul | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Marlow, Tony | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Thurnham, Peter |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Mates. Michael | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Mellor, Rt Hon David | Tracey, Richard |
| Merchant, Piers | Tredinnick, David |
| Mills, Iain | Trend, Michael |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Trotter, Neville |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Viggers, Peter |
| Moss, Malcolm | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Nelson, Anthony | Walden, George |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Waller, Gary |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Ward, John |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Waterson, Nigel |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Watts, John |
| Norris, Steve | Wells, Bowen |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Whitney, Ray |
| Ottaway, Richard | Whittingdale, John |
| Page, Richard | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Paice, James | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Patnick, Irvine | Wilkinson, John |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Willetts, David |
| Pawsey, James | Wilshire, David |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton) |
| Wolfson, Mark | |
| Wood, Timothy | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Yeo, Tim | Mr. Andrew Mitchell and Mr. Derek Conway. |
| Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Fisher, Mark |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Flynn, Paul |
| Ainger, Nick | Foster, Rt Hon Derek |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Allen, Graham | Fraser, John |
| Alton, David | Fyfe, Maria |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Galloway, George |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Garrett, John |
| Ashton, Joe | George, Bruce |
| Austin-Walker, John | Gerrard, Neil |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Barnes, Harry | Godsiff, Roger |
| Barron, Kevin | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Battle, John | Gordon, Mildred |
| Bayley, Hugh | Gould, Bryan |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Graham, Thomas |
| Beggs, Roy | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Bell, Stuart | Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Benton, Joe | Grocott, Bruce |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Gunnell, John |
| Betts, Clive | Hain, Peter |
| Blunkett, David | Hall, Mike |
| Boateng, Paul | Hanson, David |
| Boyce, Jimmy | Hardy, Peter |
| Bradley, Keith | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Heppell, John |
| Brown, Gordon (Dunfermline E) | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Burden, Richard | Hinchliffe, David |
| Byers, Stephen | Hoey, Kate |
| Caborn, Richard | Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld) |
| Callaghan, Jim | Home Robertson, John |
| Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) | Hood, Jimmy |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Howarth, George (Knowsley N) |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) |
| Canavan, Dennis | Hoyle, Doug |
| Cann, Jamie | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | Hughes, Roy (Newport E) |
| Clapham, Michael | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Clelland, David | Hutton, John |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Illsley, Eric |
| Coffey, Ann | Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) |
| Cohen, Harry | Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) |
| Connarty, Michael | Jamieson, David |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Janner, Greville |
| Cook. Robin (Livingston) | Johnston, Sir Russell |
| Corbett, Robin | Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) |
| Cousins, Jim | Jowell, Tessa |
| Cox, Tom | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Cryer, Bob | Keen, Alan |
| Cummings, John | Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Khabra, Piara S. |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) |
| Dalyell, Tam | Leighton, Ron |
| Darling, Alistair | Lestor, Joan (Eccles) |
| Davies, Bryan (Oldham C'tral) | Lewis, Terry |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Litherland, Robert |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Livingstone, Ken |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l) | Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) |
| Dixon, Don | Llwyd, Elfyn |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Loyden, Eddie |
| Dowd, Jim | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | McAllion, John |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Eagle, Ms Angela | McCartney, Ian |
| Eastham, Ken | Macdonald, Calum |
| Enright, Derek | McFall, John |
| Etherington, Bill | McKelvey, William |
| Evans, John (St Helens N) | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Fatchett, Derek | McLeish, Henry |
| McMaster, Gordon | Roche, Mrs. Barbara |
| McNamara, Kevin | Rogers, Allan |
| McWilliam, John | Rooker, Jeff |
| Madden, Max | Rooney, Terry |
| Mahon, Alice | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Mandelson, Peter | Rowlands, Ted |
| Marek, Dr John | Ruddock, Joan |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Martlew, Eric | Sheerman, Barry |
| Meacher, Michael | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Meale, Alan | Simpson, Alan |
| Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Milburn, Alan | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Miller, Andrew | Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) |
| Moonie, Dr Lewis | Smith, Rt Hon John (M'kl'ds E) |
| Morgan, Rhodri | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| Morley, Elliot | Spearing, Nigel |
| Morris, Rt Hon A. (Wy'nshawe) | Steel, Rt Hon Sir David |
| Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Stevenson, George |
| Mowlam, Marjorie | Stott, Roger |
| Mudie, George | Strang, Dr. Gavin |
| Mullin, Chris | Straw, Jack |
| Murphy, Paul | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon | Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck) |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Tipping, Paddy |
| O'Brien, William (Normanton) | Turner, Dennis |
| O'Hara, Edward | Tyler, Paul |
| Olner, William | Vaz, Keith |
| Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Walker, Rt Hon Sir Harold |
| Patchett, Terry | Walley, Joan |
| Pickthall, Colin | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Pike, Peter L. | Wareing, Robert N |
| Pope, Greg | Watson, Mike |
| Powell, Ray (Ogmore) | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) | Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Sw'n W) |
| Prescott, John | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Primarolo, Dawn | Wilson, Brian |
| Purchase, Ken | Winnick, David |
| Quin. Ms Joyce | Worthington, Tony |
| Radice, Giles | Wray, Jimmy |
| Randall, Stuart | Wright, Dr Tony |
| Raynsford, Nick | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Redmond, Martin | |
| Reid, Dr John | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Rendel, David | Mr. John Spellar and Mr. Peter Kilfoyle. |
| Robinson, Geoffrey (Co'try NW) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§
Lord amendment: No. 209, after clause 162, insert the following clause—Duty to direct Governing Body to make special educational provision—
(". (1) Where it has come to the attention of the local education authority that the governing body of a county, voluntary or grant-maintained school is not fulfilling its duties under section 153 of this Act in respect of a pupil for whom a statement of special educational needs is maintained under section 159 of this Act then the local education authority shall direct that the governing body make the special educational provision specified in the statement.
(2) In order to carry out its duty under this section, the local education authority shall have the power to inspect the special educational provision and require the governing body to supply such reports as the local education authority may require.
(3) After a period of two months after the making of a direction under subsection (1) above, the local education authority shall review the special educational provision made for the pupil for whom the direction was made and, where it appears that the provision has not been made, the local education authority shall review the educational needs of the pupil under section 162 of this Act.
(4) Where, as a consequence of a review under subsection (3) above, a new statement of special educational needs is made under section 159 that names a different school, the Governing Body shall pay to the local education authority the cost of educating that pupil for the remainder of the financial year. the cost of reassessment and such compensation to the parents of the pupil as the local education authority deems reasonable.")
§ Motion made, and Question put, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment.—[Mr. Forth.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 298, Noes 243.
152| Division No. 348] | [11.29 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (Easf Surrey) | Dicks, Terry |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Alexander, Richard | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Dover, Den |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Duncan, Alan |
| Amess, David | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Arbuthnot, James | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Dykes, Hugh |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Eggar, Tim |
| Ashby, David | Elletson, Harold |
| Aspinwall. Jack | Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Baldry, Tony | Evennett, David |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Faber, David |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Fabricant, Michael |
| Bates, Michael | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Batiste, Spencer | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Bendall, Vivian | Forman, Nigel |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Forth, Eric |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Booth, Hartley | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Boswell, Tim | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | French, Douglas |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Fry, Peter |
| Bowden, Andrew | Gale, Roger |
| Bowis, John | Gallie, Phil |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Brazier, Julian | Garnier, Edward |
| Bright, Graham | Gill, Christopher |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Gorman. Mrs Teresa |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Gorst, John |
| Burns, Simon | Grant, Sir Anthony (Cambs SW) |
| Burt, Alistair | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Butcher, John | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Butler, Peter | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hague, William |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Cash, William | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Churchill. Mr | Hannam, Sir John |
| Clappison, James | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Harris, David |
| Coe, Sebastian | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Colvin, Michael | Hawkins. Nick |
| Congdon, David | Hawksley, Warren |
| Conway, Derek | Hayes, Jerry |
| Coombs. Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Heald, Oliver |
| Coombs. Simon (Swindon) | Hendry, Charles |
| Cope. Rt Hon Sir John | Hicks, Robert |
| Cormack, Patrick | Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L. |
| Couchman, James | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Cran, James | Horam, John |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Howard, Rt Hon Michael |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Day, Stephen | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Devlin, Tim | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Dickens, Geoffrey | Hunter, Andrew |
| Jack, Michael | Richards, Rod |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Riddick, Graham |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jessel, Toby | Robathan, Andrew |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Key, Robert | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Sackville, Tom |
| King, Rt Hon Tom | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Knapman, Roger | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Shersby, Michael |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Sims, Roger |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Knox, Sir David | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Speed, Sir Keith |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Legg, Barry | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Leigh, Edward | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Spring, Richard |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Sproat, Iain |
| Lidington, David | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Lightbown, David | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Lilley, Rt Hon Peter | Steen, Anthony |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Stephen, Michael |
| Lord, Michael | Stern, Michael |
| Luff, Peter | Stewart, Allan |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Streeter, Gary |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Sumberg, David |
| MacKay, Andrew | Sweeney, Walter |
| Maclean, David | Sykes, John |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Madel, David | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Malone, Gerald | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Mans, Keith | Thomason, Roy |
| Marland, Paul | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Marlow, Tony | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Thurnham, Peter |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Mates, Michael | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Mellor, Rt Hon David | Tracey, Richard |
| Merchant, Piers | Tredinnick, David |
| Milligan, Stephen | Trend, Michael |
| Mills, Iain | Trotter, Neville |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Viggers, Peter |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Walden, George |
| Moss, Malcolm | Waller, Gary |
| Nelson, Anthony | Ward, John |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Waterson, Nigel |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Watts, John |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Wells, Bowen |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Norris, Steve | Whitney, Ray |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Whittingdale, John |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Ottaway, Richard | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Page, Richard | Wilkinson, John |
| Paice, James | Willetts, David |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Wilshire, David |
| Pawsey, James | Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton) |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Wolfson, Mark |
| Pickles, Eric | Wood, Timothy |
| Porter, Barry (Wirral S) | Yeo, Tim |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Portillo, Rt Hon Michael | |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Rathbone, Tim | Mr. Irvine Patnick and Mr. Michael Brown. |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Fraser, John |
| Ainger, Nick | Fyfe, Maria |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Galloway, George |
| Allen, Graham | Garrett, John |
| Alton, David | George, Bruce |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Gerrard, Neil |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Ashton, Joe | Godsiff, Roger |
| Austin-Walker, John | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Gordon, Mildred |
| Barnes, Harry | Gould, Bryan |
| Barron, Kevin | Graham, Thomas |
| Battle, John | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Bayley, Hugh | Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Beggs, Roy | Grocott, Bruce |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Gunnell, John |
| Bell, Stuart | Hain, Peter |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Hall, Mike |
| Benton, Joe | Hanson, David |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Hardy, Peter |
| Betts, Clive | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Blunkett, David | Heppell, John |
| Boateng, Paul | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Boyce, Jimmy | Hinchliffe, David |
| Bradley, Keith | Hoey, Kate |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld) |
| Brown, Gordon (Dunfermline E) | Home Robertson, John |
| Burden, Richard | Hood, Jimmy |
| Byers, Stephen | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Caborn, Richard | Howarth, George (Knowsley N) |
| Callaghan, Jim | Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) |
| Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) | Hoyle, Doug |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Hughes, Roy (Newport E) |
| Canavan, Dennis | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Cann, Jamie | Hutton, John |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) |
| Clapham, Michael | Jamieson, David |
| Clelland, David | Janner, Greville |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Johnston, Sir Russell |
| Coffey, Ann | Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) |
| Cohen, Harry | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Connarty, Michael | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Jowell, Tessa |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Corbett, Robin | Keen, Alan |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Khabra, Piara S. |
| Cousins, Jim | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Cox, Tom | Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) |
| Cryer, Bob | Leighton, Ron |
| Cummings, John | Lestor, Joan (Eccles) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Lewis, Terry |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Litherland, Robert |
| Dalyell, Tam | Livingstone, Ken |
| Darling, Alistair | Lloyd, Tony (Strettord) |
| Davies, Bryan (Oldham C'tral) | Llwyd, Elfyn |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Loyden, Eddie |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l) | McAllion, John |
| Dewar, Donald | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Dixon, Don | McCartney, Ian |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Macdonald, Calum |
| Dowd, Jim | McFall, John |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | McKelvey, William |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Eagle, Ms Angela | McLeish, Henry |
| Eastham, Ken | McMaster, Gordon |
| Enright, Derek | McNamara, Kevin |
| Etherington, Bill | McWilliam, John |
| Evans, John (St Helens N) | Madden, Max |
| Fatchett, Derek | Mahon, Alice |
| Fisher, Mark | Mandelson, Peter |
| Flynn, Paul | Marek, Dr John |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Martlew, Eric | Pope, Greg |
| Meacher, Michael | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Meale, Alan | Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) |
| Michie. Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Prescott, John |
| Milburn, Alan | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Miller, Andrew | Purchase, Ken |
| Moonie, Dr Lewis | Quin, Ms Joyce |
| Morgan, Rhodri | Radice, Giles |
| Morley, Elliot | Randall, Stuart |
| Morris, Rt Hon A. (Wy'nshawe) | Raynsford, Nick |
| Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) | Redmond, Martin |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Reid, Dr John |
| Mowlam, Marjorie | Rendel, David |
| Mudie, George | Robertson, George (Hamilton) |
| Mullin, Chris | Robinson, Geoffrey (Co'try NW) |
| Murphy, Paul | Roche, Mrs. Barbara |
| Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon | Rogers, Allan |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Rooker, Jeff |
| O'Brien, William (Normanton) | Rooney, Terry |
| O'Hara, Edward | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Olner. William | Rowlands, Ted |
| Orme. Rt Hon Stanley | Ruddock, Joan |
| Patchett. Terry | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Pickthall, Colin | Sheerman, Barry |
| Pike. Peter L. | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Short, Clare | Vaz, Keith |
| Simpson, Alan | Walker. Rt Hon Sir Harold |
| Skinner, Dennis | Walley, Joan |
| Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) | Warden, Gareth (Gower) |
| Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) | Wareing, Robert N |
| Smith, Rt Hon John (M'kl'ds E) | Watson, Mike |
| Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Snape, Peter | Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Sw'n W) |
| Spearing, Nigel | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Spellar, John | Wilson, Brian |
| Steel, Rt Hon Sir David | Winnick, David |
| Steinberg, Gerry | Worthington, Tony |
| Stevenson, George | Wray, Jimmy |
| Stott, Roger | Wright, Dr Tony |
| Strang, Dr. Gavin | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Straw, Jack | |
| Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Tipping, Paddy | Mr. Eric Illsley and Mr. Jack Thompson. |
| Turner, Dennis | |
| Tyler, Paul |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Subsequent Lords amendments agreed to, some Special Entry.
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Lords amendment: No. 334, after clause 227, insert new clause—Temporary procedure for making certain orders—
(".—(1) Where this section applies in relation to any proposals by the Secretary of State to make an order under section 3(4) or 4(2)(a) or (b) of the Education Reform Act 1988 (orders relating to foundation subjects, key stages and attainment targets), or regulations under section 17 of that Act (exceptions from National Curriculum)—
(2) Where, at any time after the commencement of this section and before 1st September 1996, the Secretary of State proposes to make such an order or such regulations, this section applies in relation to the proposals unless, at any time before the commencement of this section—
(3) Where the Secretary of State proposes, at any time on or after 1st September 1996, to make such an order or such regulations, this section applies in relation to the proposals if arrangements under this section for consultation about the proposals were made before that date.")
§ Mr. Win GriffithsI beg to move amendment (a) to the Lords amendment, in line 12, leave out
'after the commencement of this section and before 1st September 1996'and insert'during the temporary procedure period'.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerWith this we may also discuss amendments (a) to (d) to the Lords amendment and the consequential amendment, Lords amendment No. 335, Lords amendment No. 336 and amendment (a), Lords amendments Nos. 337 to 341, No. 384, 479 to 486, 488, 504, 528, 529, 534, 535, 549 and 580.
§ Mr. GriffithsWe shall obviously have to be brief to give the Government a chance to respond to the debate on the amendment. The amendment is important because in the Bill the Government propose to reduce the period of three years during which statutory consultation is required on changes in the national curriculum. They argue for that reduction on the grounds that the Dearing review, which is non-statutory consultation, will produce a consensus which will make it unnecessary to go through the two-stage process of consultation under sections 20 and 21 of the 1988 Act.
We believe that, however well Sir Ron Dearing carries out the review, there can be no guarantee that his proposals will represent a consensus of the views delivered to him, nor can we guarantee that the Government will accept all that comes out of his review. Therefore, we feel that it is not wise to allow a three-year period in which the level of consultation will be reduced. We support the Lords in their proposal that the fixed period for reduced consultation should be covered by a one-year term to August 1994. That one-year term will be renewable for two further one-year terms by affirmative order. The reduced consultation should be covered by parliamentary scrutiny.
We are also worried because sections 20 and 21 of the 1988 Act mainly cover subject orders. The Dearing review deals with not only subjects in the national curriculum but matters of assessment. Those matters are too important to be left to a reduced consultation period. We accept that 154 there would be advantages for children and teachers in securing rapid implementation of fairly simple, consensual changes, but it is not right to let that happen in a way that would not be subject to any parliamentary review for a full three years.
Through the Lords amendments, we want to ensure that we have an annual review by affirmative order. We hope that the Government accept that that is not too onerous a burden and that they will be prepared to accept Lords amendment No. 334.
§ Mr. Robin SquireIt is a bit rich, after what we have experienced in the past two hours-plus, to be advised by the hon. Member for Bridgend (Mr. Griffiths) that we need significant time to discuss this group of amendments. An independent observer of our proceedings would conclude that Opposition Members have no arguments on the Bill and are reduced to using their feet instead of their mouths. None the less—before you call me to order, Mr. Deputy Speaker—the intention behind Lords amendment No. 334, which was tabled in another place following my right hon. Friend's statement to the House of 11 May, is to be able to respond quickly and positively to the recommendation of Sir Ron Dearing's review on the broad principles of the national curriculum and assessment to remedy the current unmanageable situation.
I share the concern of the hon. Member for Bridgend to secure adequate consultation on the new curriculum orders. He also spoke about the importance of putting into effect the proposals that may arise from the review. Their Lordships propose to lift the current requirements for just long enough to complete reviews of individual orders in the light of the full and wide-ranging consultation on broad principles.
Opposition Members wish to ensure that this temporary measure is even shorter than we propose—one year—unless Parliament grants extensions of one year by affirmative resolution. I do not believe that their aims will be compromised by the Lords amendment. I do riot propose to lift the requirements for longer than is strictly necessary, and the Government have already given assurances in another place about the nature of such consultation.
§ Mrs. Ann TaylorWill the Minister give way?
§ Mr. SquireI should like to continue speaking, as I have waited for some time for this opportunity.
We must, however, be prepared to respond properly and, depending on the scale of Sir Ron's recommendations, that may take more than the year allowed by the Opposition's amendments, particularly as Sir Ron's report will not be completed until the end of this year.
It would be a mistake if a widely recognised need for change, reflected in the work of Sir Ron's review, could not be put in place as quickly as is reasonably possible. At the same time, we must allow for a planned series of changes rather than a "big hang" approach, if that is what schools feel would work best. That might mean issuing proposals for changes to be introduced by, at the latest, the beginning of September 1996, the date set in the amendment. The extension of the proposed consultation arrangements until 1996 will, therefore, allow us to present a coherent package to schools in the light of Sir Ron's review.
I should also give the same assurances to the House that my right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State was concerned to give in another place about the nature of consultation. Once the current consultation arrangements are suspended, I assure hon. Members that, wherever possible, although there will he no statutory requirement to do so, we intend to follow the procedures set out in sections 20 and 21 of the Education Reform Act 1988 and to hold both rounds of consultation. Where we need to proceed more quickly, and use the flexibility introduced by the clause to hold only one round of consultations, we would intend to consult at least as widely as is required in the Education Reform Act—
§ Mr. D. N. Campbell-Savours (Workington)And Parliament'?
§ Mr. SquireI shall come to Parliament in a moment.
We would expect to consult more widely, allowing adequate time for consultation appropriate to the organisations that we consult on any particular proposal.
Furthermore, although I respect the desire of Opposition Members to secure parliamentary scrutiny of any extensions to the suspension beyond 1994, their concerns are misplaced. Any revised orders will still require parliamentary approval before being introduced; we will simply he able to bring them before Parliament earlier than before.
Lords amendment No. 336 concerns consultation. Nobody would wish to suggest that the School Curriculum and Assessment Authority should not consult, and those of us who are following Sir Ron Dearing's review will have noted his personal commitment to widespread consultation. But it is for the authority itself to decide how best to consult, and with whom. There is no need to lay down statutory requirements in this regard.
Of the other amendments in the group, amendment No. 335 was tabled by the Government at Third Reading in another place in response to concerns expressed on Report there that the criteria for the appointment of members to the School Curriculum and Assessment Authority should he set out more explicitly.
Other amendments concerned with the new authority and with the Curriculum and Assessment Authority for Wales—Nos. 337 to 341, 479 to 486, 487 to 488, 504, 528 to 529, 534, 535. 549 and 580—are technical amendments 156 tabled by the Government dealing with the transfer of the assets and liabilities of the National Curriculum Council and the Schools Examination and Assessment Council, the charitable status and payments to members of the new authorities in England and Wales and the financial year of the School Curriculum and Assessment Authority.
§ Question put, That the amendment to the Lords amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 84, Noes 259.
158| Division No. 349] | [11.53 pm |
| AYES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Illsley, Eric |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Ingram, Adam |
| Alton, David | Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Barnes, Harry | Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) |
| Battle, John | Lewis, Terry |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Loyden, Eddie |
| Beggs, Roy | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Betts, Clive | McFall, John |
| Boyce, Jimmy | McMaster, Gordon |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | Marek, Dr John |
| Burden, Richard | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Caborn, Richard | Miller, Andrew |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Morley, Elliot |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Mudie, George |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | O'Hara, Edward |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Olner, William |
| Coffey, Ann | O'Neill, Martin |
| Connarty, Michael | Patchett, Terry |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Pickthall, Colin |
| Cox, Tom | Pike, Peter L. |
| Cryer, Bob | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Dalyell, Tam | Raynsford, Nick |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l) | Reid, Dr John |
| Dewar, Donald | Rendel, David |
| Dixon, Don | Rooker, Jeff |
| Dowd, Jim | Rooney, Terry |
| Enright, Derek | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Short, Clare |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Simpson, Alan |
| Fraser, John | Skinner, Dennis |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) |
| Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Steel, Rt Hon Sir David |
| Hall, Mike | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Hanson, David | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Henderson, Doug | Turner, Dennis |
| Heppell, John | Watson, Mike |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Mr. Alan Meale and Mr. Andrew Mackinlay. |
| Hutton, John |
| NOES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Bellingham, Henry |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Bendall, Vivian |
| Alexander, Richard | Beresford, Sir Paul |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Biffen, Rt Hon John |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Blackburn, Dr John G. |
| Amess, David | Bonsor, Sir Nicholas |
| Arbuthnot, James | Booth, Hartley |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Boswell, Tim |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) |
| Ashby, David | Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Bowden, Andrew |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Bowis, John |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Brandreth, Gyles |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Brazier, Julian |
| Baldry, Tony | Bright, Graham |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Brooke, Rt Hon Peter |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Browning, Mrs. Angela |
| Bates. Michael | Burns, Simon |
| Batiste. Spencer | Butcher, John |
| Butler, Peter | Howard, Rt Hon Michael |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Carrington, Matthew | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Cash, William | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hunter, Andrew |
| Clappison, James | Jack, Michael |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Coe, Sebastian | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Colvin, Michael | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Congdon, David | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Conway, Derek | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Key, Robert |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Cormack, Patrick | King, Rt Hon Tom |
| Couchman, James | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Cran, James | Knapman, Roger |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Day, Stephen | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Lang, Rt Hon Ian |
| Devlin, Tim | Legg, Barry |
| Dickens. Geoffrey | Leigh, Edward |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Lennox-Boyd, Mark |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) |
| Dover, Den | Lidington, David |
| Duncan, Alan | Lightbown, David |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Dykes, Hugh | Lord, Michael |
| Eggar, Tim | Luff, Peter |
| Elletson, Harold | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | MacKay, Andrew |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Malone, Gerald |
| Faber, David | Mans, Keith |
| Fabricant, Michael | Marland, Paul |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Merchant, Piers |
| Fishburn, Dudley | Milligan, Stephen |
| Forman, Nigel | Mills, Iain |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Forth, Eric | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) | Monro, Sir Hector |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | Moss, Malcolm |
| French, Douglas | Nelson, Anthony |
| Gale, Roger | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Gallie, Phil | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Gamier, Edward | Norris, Steve |
| Gill, Christopher | Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley |
| Gillan, Cheryl | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Ottaway, Richard |
| Gorst, John | Paice, James |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Pickles, Eric |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Porter, Barry (Wirral S) |
| Hague, William | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Hampson, Dr Keith | Rathbone, Tim |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Richards, Rod |
| Hannam, Sir John | Riddick, Graham |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Harris, David | Robathan, Andrew |
| Hawkins, Nick | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Hawksley, Warren | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Heald, Oliver | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Hendry, Charles | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Horam, John | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Sackville, Tom | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Thurnham, Peter |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Tredinnick, David |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Trend, Michael |
| Sims, Roger | Trotter, Neville |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) | Viggers, Peter |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Speed, Sir Keith | Walden, George |
| Spencer, Sir Derek | Waller, Gary |
| Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) | Ward, John |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Spink, Dr Robert | Waterson, Nigel |
| Spring, Richard | Watts, John |
| Sproat, Iain | Wells, Bowen |
| Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Whitney, Ray |
| Steen, Anthony | Whittingdale, John |
| Stephen, Michael | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Stern, Michael | Wilkinson, John |
| Stewart, Allan | Willetts, David |
| Streeter, Gary | Wilshire, David |
| Sweeney, Walter | Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton) |
| Sykes, John | Wood, Timothy |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Yeo, Tim |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Taylor, John M. (Solihull) | |
| Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Temple-Morris, Peter | Mr. Irvine Patnick and Mr. Michael Brown. |
| Thomason, Roy | |
| Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
§ It being after Twelve o'clock, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER, pursuant to order yesterday, then put the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment.
§ Question agreed to.
§ Lords amendment No. 334 accordingly agreed to.
§ Subsequent Lords amendments agreed to. [Some with special entry.]