HC Deb 09 July 1991 vol 194 cc920-3

That this House takes note of European Community Document No. 4466/91 relating to the establishment of European Works Councils; endorses the conclusions of the Madrid and Rome European Councils that measures taken in the field of social affairs should have full regard to the effects on job creation, the principle of subsidiarity and the diversity of national traditions and practices; supports the Government's view that the draft directive is incompatible with these conclusions; and endorses the Government's proposal for a Community initiative on employee involvement which might take the form of a Council recommendation or resolution.—[Mr. Nicholas Baker.] Amendment proposed, leave out from second 'Councils' to end and add:— `draws attention to the Government's consistent refusal to advance the interests of the British working people on any matter where the Social Charter and its action programme are concerned; and deplores the Government's refusal to play a constructive role in producing a Directive which will ensure that British workers have the same rights as their counterparts on the Continent.'.—[Mr. Haynes.] Question put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 102 (European Standing Committees), That the amendment be made:

The House divided: Ayes 23, Noes 108.

Division No. 207] [2.27 am
AYES
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Lewis, Terry
Beith, A. J. McAvoy, Thomas
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) McKay, Allen (Barnsley West)
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Martin, Michael J. (Springburn)
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Meale, Alan
Carr, Michael Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Cox, Tom Skinner, Dennis
Cryer, Bob Wallace, James
Dewar, Donald Wise, Mrs Audrey
Dixon, Don
Foster, Derek Tellers for the Ayes:
Fyfe, Maria Mr. Frank Haynes and
Godman, Dr Norman A. Mrs. Llin Golding.
Grocott, Bruce
NOES
Arbuthnot, James Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Arnold, Sir Thomas King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Atkins, Robert Kirkhope, Timothy
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Knapman, Roger
Baldry, Tony Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Bellingham, Henry Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Blackburn, Dr John G. Lightbown, David
Boswell, Tim Lilley, Rt Hon Peter
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) MacGregor, Rt Hon John
Brazier, Julian Maclean, David
Bright, Graham McLoughlin, Patrick
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Mans, Keith
Burns, Simon Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Butterfill, John Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Carrington, Matthew Maude, Hon Francis
Cash, William Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Chapman, Sydney Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Chope, Christopher Monro, Sir Hector
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Moss, Malcolm
Colvin, Michael Moynihan, Hon Colin
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Nicholls, Patrick
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John Norris, Steve
Currie, Mrs Edwina Oppenheim, Phillip
Davis, David (Boothferry) Paice, James
Dorrell, Stephen Patnick, Irvine
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Patten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath)
Durant, Sir Anthony Patten, Rt Hon John
Eggar, Tim Portillo, Michael
Emery, Sir Peter Redwood, John
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) Renton, Rt Hon Tim
Fallon, Michael Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Ryder, Rt Hon Richard
Forth, Eric Sackville, Hon Tom
Freeman, Roger Sayeed, Jonathan
Goodlad, Alastair Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Greenway, John (Ryedale) Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Gregory, Conal Stern, Michael
Ground, Patrick Stevens, Lewis
Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Hague, William Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Harris, David Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Heathcoat-Amory, David Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) Thurnham, Peter
Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) Tredinnick, David
Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) Twinn, Dr Ian
Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) Widdecombe, Ann
Hunt, Rt Hon David Yeo, Tim
Irvine, Michael Young, Sir George (Acton)
Jack, Michael
Jackson, Robert Tellers for the Noes:
Janman, Tim Mr. Timothy Wood and
Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) Mr. Neil Hamilton.

Question accordingly negatived.

Main Question put forthwith, pursuant to the Standing Order:

The House divided: Ayes 108, Noes 23.

Division No. 208] [2.37 am
AYES
Arbuthnot, James King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Arnold, Sir Thomas Kirkhope, Timothy
Atkins, Robert Knapman, Roger
Baldry, Tony Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Bellingham, Henry Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Blackburn, Dr John G. Lightbown, David
Boswell, Tim Lilley, Rt Hon Peter
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) MacGregor, Rt Hon John
Brazier, Julian Maclean, David
Bright, Graham McLoughlin, Patrick
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Mans, Keith
Burns, Simon Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Butterfill, John Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Carrington, Matthew Maude, Hon Francis
Cash, William Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Chope, Christopher Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Monro, Sir Hector
Colvin, Michael Moss, Malcolm
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Moynihan, Hon Colin
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John Nicholls, Patrick
Currie, Mrs Edwina Norris, Steve
Davis, David (Boothferry) Oppenheim, Phillip
Dorrell, Stephen Paice, James
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Patnick, Irvine
Durant, Sir Anthony Patten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath)
Eggar, Tim Patten, Rt Hon John
Emery, Sir Peter Portillo, Michael
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) Redwood, John
Fallon, Michael Renton, Rt Hon Tim
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn
Forth, Eric Ryder, Rt Hon Richard
Freeman, Roger Sackville, Hon Tom
Goodlad, Alastair Sayeed, Jonathan
Greenway, John (Ryedale) Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Gregory, Conal Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Ground, Patrick Stern, Michael
Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn Stevens, Lewis
Hague, William Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Harris, David Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Heathcoat-Amory, David Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) Thurnham, Peter
Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) Tredinnick, David
Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) Twinn, Dr Ian
Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) Widdecombe, Ann
Hunt, Rt Hon David Wood, Timothy
Irvine, Michael Yeo, Tim
Jack, Michael Young, Sir George (Acton)
Jackson, Robert
Janman, Tim Tellers for the Ayes:
Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) Mr. Sydney Chapman and
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Mr. Nicholas Baker.
NOES
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Grocott, Bruce
Beith, A. J. Lewis, Terry
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) McKay, Allen (Barnsley West)
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Martin, Michael J. (Springburn)
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Meale, Alan
Carr, Michael Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Cox, Tom Skinner, Dennis
Cryer, Bob Wallace, James
Dewar, Donald Wise, Mrs Audrey
Dixon, Don
Foster, Derek Tellers for the Noes:
Fyfe, Maria Mr. Frank Haynes and
Godman, Dr Norman A. Mr. Thomas McAvoy.
Golding, Mrs Llin

Question accoringly agreed to.

Resolved, That this House takes note of European Community Document No. 4466/91 relating to the establishment of European Works Councils; endorses the conclusions of the Madrid and Rome European Councils that measures taken in the field of social affairs should have full regard to the effects on job creation, the principle of subsidiarity and the diversity of national traditions and practices; supports the Government's view that the draft directive is incompatible with these conclusions; and endorses the Government's proposal for a Community initiative on employee involvement which might take the form of a Council recommendation or resolution.