HC Deb 14 March 1990 vol 169 cc622-7

14.—(1) Section 86 of the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978 (keeping and audit of accounts of certain Scottish health bodies) shall be amended as follows.

(2) In subsections (1) and (1A), for the words "by auditors appointed by the Secretary of State" there shall be substituted "in accordance with Part VII of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 by auditors appointed by the Accounts Commission for Scotland".

(3) After subsection (1A) there shall be inserted the following subsection— (1B) To the extent that regulations made by the Secretary of State so provide, the requirement in subsection (1A)(a) to have accounts audited shall not apply to the accounts for any year of a recognised fund-holding practice if those accounts are submitted to a Health Board and summarised in the Board's accounts.

(4) Subsection (2) shall cease to have effect.'.—[Mr. Michael Forsyth.]

Question put, That the schedule be added to the Bill:—

The House divided: Ayes 270, Noes 56.

Division 129] [12.27 pm
AYES
Adley, Robert Bendall, Vivian
Alexander, Richard Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Benyon, W.
Allason, Rupert Biffen, Rt Hon John
Amess, David Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Amos, Alan Body, Sir Richard
Arbuthnot, James Bonsor, Sir Nicholas
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Boscawen, Hon Robert
Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) Boswell, Tim
Atkins, Robert Bottomley, Mrs Virginia
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n)
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)
Baldry, Tony Bowis, John
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes
Batiste, Spencer Brandon-Bravo, Martin
Bellingham, Henry Brazier, Julian
Bright, Graham Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE)
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Buck, Sir Antony Hill, James
Budgen, Nicholas Hind, Kenneth
Burns, Simon Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Butcher, John Howard, Rt Hon Michael
Butler, Chris Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Butterfill, John Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)
Carlisle, John, (Luton N) Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Hunt, David (Wirral W)
Carrington, Matthew Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne)
Carttiss, Michael Irvine, Michael
Cash, William Irving, Sir Charles
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Jack, Michael
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Jackson, Robert
Chapman, Sydney Janman, Tim
Churchill, Mr Jessel, Toby
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Jones, Robert B (Herts W)
Colvin, Michael Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Key, Robert
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Cope, Rt Hon John Kirkhope, Timothy
Couchman, James Knapman, Roger
Cran, James Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Currie, Mrs Edwina Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston)
Curry, David Knowles, Michael
Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) Knox, David
Davis, David (Boothferry) Lang, Ian
Day, Stephen Latham, Michael
Devlin, Tim Lawrence, Ivan
Dorrell, Stephen Lee, John (Pendle)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Dover, Den Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Dunn, Bob Lester, Jim (Broxtowe)
Eggar, Tim Lightbown, David
Emery, Sir Peter Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Fallon, Michael Lord, Michael
Favell, Tony Luce, Rt Hon Richard
Fenner, Dame Peggy Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) MacGregor, Rt Hon John
Fishburn, John Dudley Maclean, David
Forman, Nigel McLoughlin, Patrick
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael
Forth, Eric Madel, David
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman Malins, Humfrey
Fox, Sir Marcus Mans, Keith
Freeman, Roger Maples, John
French, Douglas Marland, Paul
Gale, Roger Marlow, Tony
Garel-Jones, Tristan Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Gill, Christopher Marshall, Michael (Arundel)
Glyn, Dr Sir Alan Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Goodhart, Sir Philip Maude, Hon Francis
Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Gorman, Mrs Teresa Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Gorst, John Mellor, David
Gow, Ian Meyer, Sir Anthony
Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) Mills, Iain
Greenway, John (Ryedale) Miscampbell, Norman
Gregory, Conal Mitchell, Andrew (Gedllng)
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) Mitchell, Sir David
Grist, Ian Moate, Roger
Ground, Patrick Monro, Sir Hector
Grylls, Michael Montgomery, Sir Fergus
Hague, William Morris, M (N'hampton S)
Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) Moss, Malcolm
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) Neale, Gerrard
Hampson, Dr Keith Nelson, Anthony
Hanley, Jeremy Neubert, Michael
Hannam, John Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) Nicholls, Patrick
Harris, David Nicholson, David (Taunton)
Haselhurst, Alan Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)
Hayes, Jerry Norris, Steve
Hayward, Robert Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley
Heathcoat-Amory, David Page, Richard
Paice, James Sumberg, David
Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil Summerson, Hugo
Patnick, Irvine Taylor, Ian (Usher)
Patten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath) Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Pawsey, James Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Porter, Barry (Wirral S) Temple-Morris, Peter
Porter, David (Waveney) Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Portillo, Michael Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Price, Sir David Thorne, Neil
Raison, Rt Hon Timothy Thornton, Malcolm
Rathbone, Tim Thurnham, Peter
Renton, Rt Hon Tim Tracey, Richard
Ridsdale, Sir Julian Trippier, David
Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) Trotter, Neville
Rossi, Sir Hugh Twinn, Dr Ian
Rowe, Andrew Waddington, Rt Hon David
Rumbold, Mrs Angela Waldegrave, Rt Hon William
Sackville, Hon Tom Walden, George
Sayeed, Jonathan Walker, Bill (T'side North)
Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas Waller, Gary
Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') Ward, John
Shelton, Sir William Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) Watts, John
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) Wells, Bowen
Sims, Roger Wheeler, Sir John
Skeet, Sir Trevor Widdecombe, Ann
Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) Wiggin, Jerry
Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) Wilkinson, John
Speller, Tony Wilshire, David
Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) Winterton, Mrs Ann
Squire, Robin Winterton, Nicholas
Stanbrook, Ivor Wolfson, Mark
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John Wood, Timothy
Stern, Michael Woodcock, Dr. Mike
Stevens, Lewis Yeo, Tim
Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) Young, Sir George (Acton)
Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Stewart, Rt Hon Ian (Herts N) Tellers for the Ayes:
Stokes, Sir John Mr. Alastair Goodlad and Mr. Tony Durant.
Stradling Thomas, Sir John
NOES
Allen, Graham Loyden, Eddie
Alton, David McCartney, Ian
Anderson, Donald Maclennan, Robert
Ashton, Joe Marek, Dr John
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Beggs, Roy Meale, Alan
Beith, A. J. Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute)
Blair, Tony Mullin, Chris
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Murphy, Paul
Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) Nellist, Dave
Clay, Bob Redmond, Martin
Cousins, Jim Richardson, Jo
Cryer, Bob Ross, William (Londonderry E)
Dalyell, Tam Rowlands, Ted
Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Fearn, Ronald Sillars, Jim
Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n) Skinner, Dennis
Garrett, John (Norwich South) Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Gould, Bryan Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
Graham, Thomas Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) Taylor, Rt Hon J. D. (S'ford)
Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Howells, Geraint Wallace, James
Hoyle, Doug Welsh, Andrew (Angus E)
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Young, David (Bolton SE)
Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn)
Kennedy, Charles Tellers for the Noes:
Kilfedder, James Alex Salmond and Dafydd Wigley.
Livingstone, Ken
Livsey, Richard

Question accordingly agreed to.

Question put, That all remaining amendments standing in the name of a member of the Government be made to the Bill:—

The House divided: Ayes 272, Noes 187.

Division No. 130] [12.39 am
AYES
Adley, Robert Forman, Nigel
Alexander, Richard Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Forth, Eric
Allason, Rupert Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman
Amess, David Fox, Sir Marcus
Amos, Alan Freeman, Roger
Arbuthnot, James French, Douglas
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Gale, Roger
Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) Garel-Jones, Tristan
Atkins, Robert Gill, Christopher
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Glyn, Dr Sir Alan
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Goodhart, Sir Philip
Baldry, Tony Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) Gorman, Mrs Teresa
Batiste, Spencer Gorst, John
Bellingham, Henry Gow, Ian
Bendall, Vivian Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Greenway, John (Ryedale)
Benyon, W. Gregory, Conal
Biffen, Rt Hon John Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter Grist, Ian
Body, Sir Richard Ground, Patrick
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Grylls, Michael
Boscawen, Hon Robert Hague, William
Boswell, Tim Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom)
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)
Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n) Hampson, Dr Keith
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) Hanley, Jeremy
Bowis, John Hannam, John
Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Harris, David
Brazier, Julian Haselhurst, Alan
Bright, Graham Hayes, Jerry
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Hayward, Robert
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) Heathcoat-Amory, David
Buck, Sir Antony Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
Budgen, Nicholas Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE)
Burns, Simon Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Butcher, John Hill, James
Butler, Chris Hind, Kenneth
Butterfill, John Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Carlisle, John, (Luton N) Hordern, Sir Peter
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Howard, Rt Hon Michael
Carrington, Matthew Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Carttiss, Michael Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)
Cash, William Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Hunt, David (Wirral W)
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne)
Chapman, Sydney Irvine, Michael
Churchill, Mr Irving, Sir Charles
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Jack, Michael
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) Jackson, Robert
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Janman, Tim
Colvin, Michael Jessel, Toby
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Cope, Rt Hon John Jones, Robert B (Herts W)
Couchman, James Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Cran, James Key, Robert
Currie, Mrs Edwina King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Curry, David Kirkhope, Timothy
Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) Knapman, Roger
Davis, David (Boothferry) Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Day, Stephen Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston)
Devlin, Tim Knowles, Michael
Dorrell, Stephen Knox, David
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Lang, Ian
Dover, Den Latham, Michael
Dunn, Bob Lawrence, Ivan
Eggar, Tim Lee, John (Pendle)
Emery, Sir Peter Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Fallon, Michael Lester, Jim (Broxtowe)
Favell, Tony Lightbown, David
Fenner, Dame Peggy Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Fishbum, John Dudley Lord, Michael
Luce, Rt Hon Richard Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas Shelton, Sir William
MacGregor, Rt Hon John Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Maclean, David Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
McLoughlin, Patrick Sims, Roger
McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael Skeet, Sir Trevor
Madel, David Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Malins, Humfrey Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Mans, Keith Speller, Tony
Maples, John Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)
Marland, Paul Squire, Robin
Marlow, Tony Stanbrook, Ivor
Marshall, John (Hendon S) Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Stern, Michael
Martin, David (Portsmouth S) Stevens, Lewis
Maude, Hon Francis Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Mawhinney, Dr Brian Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Stewart, Rt Hon Ian (Herts N)
Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick Stokes, Sir John
Mellor, David Stradling Thomas, Sir John
Meyer, Sir Anthony Sumberg, David
Mills, Iain Summerson, Hugo
Miscampbell, Norman Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Mitchell, Sir David Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Moate, Roger Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Monro, Sir Hector Temple-Morris, Peter
Montgomery, Sir Fergus Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Morris, M (N'hampton S) Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Moss, Malcolm Thorne, Neil
Neale, Gerrard Thornton, Malcolm
Nelson, Anthony Thurnham, Peter
Neubert, Michael Tracey, Richard
Newton, Rt Hon Tony Trippier, David
Nicholls, Patrick Trotter, Neville
Nicholson, David (Taunton) Twinn, Dr Ian
Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) Waddington, Rt Hon David
Norris, Steve Waldegrave, Fit Hon William
Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley Walden, George
Page, Richard Walker, Bill (T'side North)
Paice, James Waller, Gary
Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil Ward, John
Patnick, Irvine Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Patten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath) Watts, John
Pawsey, James Wells, Bowen
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth Wheeler, Sir John
Porter, Barry (Wirral S) Widdecombe, Ann
Porter, David (Waveney) Wiggin, Jerry
Portillo, Michael Wilkinson, John
Price, Sir David Wilshire, David
Raison, Rt Hon Timothy Winterton, Mrs Ann
Rathbone, Tim Winterton, Nicholas
Renton, Rt Hon Tim Wolfson, Mark
Ridsdale, Sir Julian Wood, Timothy
Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) Woodcock, Dr. Mike
Rossi, Sir Hugh Yeo, Tim
Rowe, Andrew Young, Sir George (Acton)
Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Sackville, Hon Tom Tellers for the Ayes:
Sayeed, Jonathan Mr. Alistair Goodlad and Mr. Tony Durant.
Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas
NOES
Abbott, Ms Diane Boateng, Paul
Adams, Allen (Paisley N) Boyes, Roland
Alton, David Bradley, Keith
Anderson, Donald Brown, Gordon (D'mline E)
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E)
Armstrong, Hilary Buchan, Norman
Ashton, Joe Buckley, George J.
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Caborn, Richard
Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich) Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)
Barron, Kevin Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley)
Battle, John Campbell-Savours, D. N.
Beggs, Roy Carlile, Alex (Mont'g)
Beith, A. J. Cartwright, John
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Clark, Dr David (S Shields)
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) Clarke, Tom (Monklands W)
Bermingham, Gerald Clay, Bob
Blunkett, David Clelland, David
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Macdonald, Calum A.
Cohen, Harry McFall, John
Coleman, Donald McKelvey, William
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Maclennan, Robert
Cousins, Jim McNamara, Kevin
Cox, Tom Madden, Max
Crowther, Stan Maginnis, Ken
Cryer, Bob Mahon, Mrs Alice
Cummings, John Marek, Dr John
Dalyell, Tam Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Darling, Alistair Martin, Michael J. (Springburn)
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Martlew, Eric
Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) Meacher, Michael
Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l) Meale, Alan
Dixon, Don Michael, Alun
Doran, Frank Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Duffy, A. E. P. Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute)
Dunnachie, Jimmy Moonie, Dr Lewis
Eadie, Alexander Morgan, Rhodri
Eastham, Ken Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe)
Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) Mowlam, Marjorie
Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) Nellist, Dave
Faulds, Andrew Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Fearn, Ronald Owen, Rt Hon Dr David
Field, Frank (Birkenhead) Paisley, Rev Ian
Fisher, Mark Patchett, Terry
Flannery, Martin Pike, Peter L.
Flynn, Paul Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Foot, Rt Hon Michael Prescott, John
Foster, Derek Primarolo, Dawn
Fraser, John Quin, Ms Joyce
Fyfe, Maria Radice, Giles
Galloway, George Randall, Stuart
Garrett, John (Norwich South) Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn
Garrett, Ted (Wallsend) Richardson, Jo
George, Bruce Robertson, George
Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John Robinson, Geoffrey
Godman, Dr Norman A. Rogers, Allan
Golding, Mrs Llin Rooker, Jeff
Gordon, Mildred Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Graham, Thomas Ross, William (Londonderry E)
Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) Rowlands, Ted
Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) Ruddock, Joan
Hardy, Peter Salmond, Alex
Harman, Ms Harriet Sedgemore, Brian
Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy Sheerman, Barry
Haynes, Frank Short, Clare
Henderson, Doug Sillars, Jim
Hinchliffe, David Skinner, Dennis
Hoey, Ms Kate (Vauxhall) Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury)
Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) Smith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E)
Home Robertson, John Smith, J. P. (Vale of Glam)
Hood, Jimmy Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Soley, Clive
Howells, Geraint Spearing, Nigel
Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
Hoyle, Doug Steinberg, Gerry
Hughes, John (Coventry NE) Taylor, Rt Hon J. D. (S'ford)
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Hughes, Roy (Newport E) Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck)
Hughes, Simon (Southwark) Turner, Dennis
Illsley, Eric Wallace, James
Ingram, Adam Walley, Joan
Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) Warden, Gareth (Gower)
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) Wareing, Robert N.
Kennedy, Charles Welsh, Andrew (Angus E)
Kilfedder, James Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
Lamond, James Wigley, Dafydd
Leadbitter, Ted Williams, Rt Hon Alan
Lestor, Joan (Eccles) Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then)
Lewis, Terry Winnick, David
Livsey, Richard Wise, Mrs Audrey
Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) Worthington, Tony
Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Loyden, Eddie Tellers for the Noes:
McAllion, John Mr. Tony Banks and Mr. Allen McKay.
McAvoy, Thomas
McCartney, Ian

Question accordingly agreed to.

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