HC Deb 16 January 1990 vol 165 cc164-5

Mr. Bob Cryer, supported by Mrs. Alice Mahon, Mr. Tony Banks, Mr. Andrew F. Bennett, Mr. Dennis Canavan, Mr. Terry Lewis, Mr. Pat Wall, Mr. Dennis Skinner, Mr. Max Madden, Mr. Dave Nellist, Mr. Eric S. Heffer and Mr. John Hughes, presented a Bill to provide a public register of organisations who carry out the lobbying of Parliament for commercial gain and the disclosure of expenditure by such organisations; and for connected purposes. And the same was read the First time; and ordered to be read a Second time upon Friday 26 January and to be printed. [Bill 53.]

Mr. D. N. Campbell-Savours (Workington)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. [HON. MEMBERS: "Declare your interest."] I always have done. [Interruption.]

Mr. Speaker

Order. It is intolerable to have this pointing across the Chamber. The point of order is to me. I must hear it.

Mr. Campbell-Savours

Have you seen early-day motion 290, which questions the right of members of the press lobby to publish information on the proceedings of the House? Have you read the motion, Mr. Speaker? While it refers to me, it then calls upon the Select Committee on the Televising of the House to review the terms upon which the Chamber and committees are televised to seek to prevent further similar uses of the proceedings of the House.

The motion is similar to asking the Services Committee to prevent newspapers from publishing the proceedings of Parliament, which in itself means that there are 43 hon. Members who think that they have the right to require The Guardian, the Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Independent and every national newspaper to refrain from publishing information which they believe should be in the public domain.

The motion is an attempt to censor the House of Commons and to censor hon. Members because we are raising issues relating to the private interests of Members of Parliament, an issue of great public concern.

Mr. Speaker

The early-day motion is on the Order Paper. The matter cannot be debated now. It was not drawn to my attention when it was put down.

Ten-minute rule motion—

Mr. Nicholas Bennett (Pembroke)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

Order. We have a very heavy day ahead of us. I will take the point of order if it is on a completely different matter, but not on the question of Members' interests.

Mr. Bennett

It is on the circulation of the Register. The programme to which the hon. Member for Walsall, North (Mr. Winnick) referred was very one-sided. It referred only to Conservative Members. Could you arrange, Mr. Speaker, for a copy of the Register of Members' Interests to be sent to Granada Television so that it may see, for instance, that the hon. Member for Copeland (Dr. Cunningham) has three adviserships? No mention was made of Labour Members who are advisers and consultants.

Several Hon. Members

rose

Mr. Speaker

Order. I saw the programme. It was in the light of it that I made my statement this afternoon.

Mr. Dennis Skinner (Bolsover)

On a further point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

Is it on the same matter?

Mr. Skinner

Yes, it is.

Mr. Speaker

I am not hearing it, in that case.

Mr. Skinner

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

Is it on a genuinely different matter?

Mr. Skinner

It is as vital as some of those that you have had from the Tories.

Mr. Speaker

I will only hear it if it is on a different matter.

Mr. Skinner

Yes, it is a genuine point of order.

Mr. Speaker

What I said was, is it on a different matter?

Mr. Skinner

It is a genuine point of order. If those Tories can—

Mr. Speaker

Order.

Mr. Skinner

We have every right to—

Mr. Speaker

Order. The hon. Member must sit down. Ten-minute rule motion, Mr. Jeremy Corbyn.

Mr. Skinner

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

I am not hearing it.

Mr. Skinner

It is on a different matter.

Mr. Speaker

The hon. Member is seeking to abuse the procedures of the House. I ask the hon. Gentleman to sit down.

Mr. Skinner

It is on a different matter.

Mr. Speaker

I ask the hon. Gentleman to sit down.

Mr. Skinner

Those Tories—

Mr. Speaker

Order. In that case, I now order the hon. Gentleman to sit down.