§ Motion made, and Question put,
§ That European Community Document No. 4963/90 and COR 1 relating to revision and adjustment of the Community's financial perspective submitted by Her Majesty's Treasury on 30th March 1990 be referred to a standing Committee on European Community Documents.—[Sir Geoffrey Howe.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 249, Noes 76.
747| Division No. 185] | [4.47 pm |
| AYES | |
| Adley, Robert | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Alexander, Richard | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Allason, Rupert | Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey |
| Amess, David | Flynn, Paul |
| Amos, Alan | Fookes, Dame Janet |
| Arbuthnot, James | Forman, Nigel |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Forth, Eric |
| Ashby, David | Fox, Sir Marcus |
| Atkins, Robert | Freeman, Roger |
| Atkinson, David | French, Douglas |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Fyfe, Maria |
| Baldry, Tony | Gardiner, George |
| Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich) | Garel-Jones, Tristan |
| Bellingham, Henry | Gill, Christopher |
| Bendall, Vivian | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Benyon, W. | Gorst, John |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Gow, Ian |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Boswell, Tim | Gregory, Conal |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) |
| Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | Grist, Ian |
| Bowis, John | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes | Hague, William |
| Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard | Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Brazier, Julian | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Burns, Simon | Hannam, John |
| Burt, Alistair | Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') |
| Butler, Chris | Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Harris, David |
| Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Hayes, Jerry |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney |
| Cartwright, John | Hayward, Robert |
| Chapman, Sydney | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Hind, Kenneth |
| Colvin, Michael | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Conway, Derek | Holt, Richard |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Hordern, Sir Peter |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Howard, Rt Hon Michael |
| Cran, James | Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) |
| Critchley, Julian | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) |
| Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) | Howells, Geraint |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Day, Stephen | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Devlin, Tim | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Dickens, Geoffrey | Hunter, Andrew |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Irvine, Michael |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Jack, Michael |
| Dunn, Bob | Janman, Tim |
| Durant, Tony | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) | Johnston, Sir Russell |
| Favell, Tony | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Jones, Robert B (Herts W) | Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Ridsdale, Sir Julian |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) |
| Kennedy, Charles | Roe, Mrs Marion |
| Key, Robert | Rost, Peter |
| King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) | Rowe, Andrew |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Ryder, Richard |
| Knapman, Roger | Sackville, Hon Tom |
| Knight, Greg (Derby North) | Sainsbury, Hon Tim |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) | Sayeed, Jonathan |
| Knox, David | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Lamont, Rt Hon Norman | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Latham, Michael | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') |
| Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) | Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Lightbown, David | Shersby, Michael |
| Lilley, Peter | Sims, Roger |
| Livsey, Richard | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Lord, Michael | Speed, Keith |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Speller, Tony |
| Macfarlane, Sir Neil | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Maclean, David | Squire, Robin |
| Maclennan, Robert | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Madel, David | Stern, Michael |
| Malins, Humfrey | Stevens, Lewis |
| Mans, Keith | Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) |
| Maples, John | Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) |
| Marland, Paul | Stewart, Rt Hon Ian (Herts N) |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Stokes, Sir John |
| Mates, Michael | Stradling Thomas, Sir John |
| Maude, Hon Francis | Sumberg, David |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Summerson, Hugo |
| Meyer, Sir Anthony | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Miller, Sir Hal | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Mills, Iain | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) |
| Mitchell, Sir David | Thorne, Neil |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Moore, Rt Hon John | Tracey, Richard |
| Morris, M (N'hampton S) | Trippier, David |
| Morrison, Sir Charles | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Moynihan, Hon Colin | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Mudd, David | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Neale, Gerrard | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Walden, George |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Ward, John |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Page, Richard | Warren, Kenneth |
| Paice, James | Watts, John |
| Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil | Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) |
| Patten, Rt Hon John | Whitney, Ray |
| Pawsey, James | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Porter, Barry (Wirral S) | Wilshire, David |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Price, Sir David | Yeo, Tim |
| Raffan, Keith | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Raison, Rt Hon Timothy | |
| Rathbone, Tim | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Redwood, John | Mr. Michael Fallon and Mr. Irvine Patrick. |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim | |
| Riddick, Graham |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Cohen, Harry |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Corbett, Robin |
| Beaumont-Dark, Anthony | Cox, Tom |
| Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) | Dalyell, Tam |
| Blunkett, David | Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) |
| Buchan, Norman | Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) |
| Buckley, George J. | Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l) |
| Caborn, Richard | Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth |
| Callaghan, Jim | Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Field, Frank (Birkenhead) |
| Fisher, Mark | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Flannery, Martin | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Flynn, Paul | Murphy, Paul |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Fry, Peter | Paisley, Rev Ian |
| Fyfe, Maria | Parry, Robert |
| George, Bruce | Patchett, Terry |
| Graham, Thomas | Pendry, Tom |
| Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Hardy, Peter | Prescott, John |
| Heal, Mrs Sylvia | Redmond, Martin |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Rogers, Allan |
| Hinchliffe, David | Rowlands, Ted |
| Hood, Jimmy | Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) |
| Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Janner, Greville | Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck) |
| Jessel, Toby | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Kilfedder, James | Watson, Mike (Glasgow, C) |
| Leighton, Ron | Wells, Bowen |
| Lewis, Terry | Wigley, Dafydd |
| McAllion, John | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then) |
| McCartney, Ian | Winnick, David |
| McWilliam, John | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Madden, Max | |
| Marlow, Tony | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Mr. Jonathan Aitken and Mr. Teddy Taylor. |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Mr. Nicholas Bennett (Pembroke)On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. My point of order relates to that raised by the hon. Member for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley (Mr. Foulkes) about the sub judice rule. May we have a ruling from you tomorrow about statements made by Ministers on general matters of law in cases in which the Court of Appeal subsequently reverses the decision of a lower court? Clearly, on your ruling today, the matters in question were not sub judice, and ruling in this case has major implications for the future. May we also have your advice on whether Court of Appeal rulings may be debated after they are issued?
§ Mr. SpeakerAs I told the hon. Member for Denton and Reddish (Mr. Bennett), I shall reflect on this matter and see whether the responsibility is properly mine.