Points of Order (Hansard, 23 November 1989)

§ Mr. Barry Field (Isle of Wight)
May I respectfully raise a point of order with you, Mr. Speaker, about the message from the other place on the Order Paper? When you took part in the Prorogation of Parliament, you went to the other place and heard Norman French used: "La Reyne Le Veult." In the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, the 1581 Gallicism in Norman French of the word "concur" is a competitor. The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word "concur" as to come into collision, to collide. It was first used by—

§ Mr. Speaker
Order. I will look it all up and read about it but what has this to do with a point of order for me?

§ Mr. Field
The doctrine of concurrency with the other place has never been tested in this House. The definition of the word "concur" is to collide. Therefore, in this House we cannot—

§ Mr. Speaker
Order. Does the hon. Gentleman concur with the motion that I am about to put or not? If he does not, he must object to it and I will take his objection, but we cannot have a debate on it. I do not think that I can help the hon. Gentleman.

§ Mr. D. N. Campbell-Savours (Workington)
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

§ Mr. David Winnick (Walsall, North)
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

§ Mr. Speaker
I hope that we are not going to have points of order like this every day.

§ Mr. Campbell-Savours
I want to raise a matter of which I have given you notice, Mr. Speaker, and which you know that I raised earlier this year: the position of Privy Councillors in this Chamber.

§ Mr. Speaker
Order. I know that the hon. Gentleman gave me notice of this. I told him that I would hear points or order in their proper place, which today is after the Standing Order No. 20 application.

§ Mr. Winnick
It has been reported, Mr. Speaker, as you may have seen in the newspapers, that the Minister of State for Energy—

§ Mr. Speaker
Order. I shall be pleased to hear about that too, but at the proper time.