§ Mr. SpeakerPrivate notice question. Mr. Neil Kinnock.
§ Mr. Neil Kinnock (Islwyn)rose—
§ Mr. Jim Sillars (Glasgow, Govan)On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
§ Mr. SpeakerI will take any points of order after the private notice question.
§ Mr. SillarsOn a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. Will the hon. Gentleman resume his seat? He knows perfectly well that I take points of order after questions, and I have called a private notice question.
§ Mr. Kinnockrose—
§ Mr. SillarsOn a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. The hon. Gentleman knows very well that points of order are taken at their proper time, after private notice questions. I repeat that I have called a private notice question. Mr. Neil Kinnock.
§ Mr. KinnockMay I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer a question—
§ Mr. SillarsOn a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
§ Mr. SpeakerIf the hon. Gentleman persists, I shall have to take action that I would very much regret having to take.
§ Mr. Sillarsrose—
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. I am on my feet.
§ Mr. SillarsMy point of order relates to this question.
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. I say to the hon. Gentleman for the final time that I will take his point of order after the private notice question.
§ Mr. SillarsMy point of order relates to the question.
§ Mr. SpeakerThe hon. Gentleman must resume his seat.
§ Mr. Sillarsindicated dissent.
§ Mr. SpeakerI give the hon. Gentleman one more chance.
§ Mr. Sillarsrose—
§ Mr. SpeakerThe hon. Gentleman will leave the Chamber for the remainder of today's sitting.
§ Mr. Sillarsindicated dissent.
§ Mr. SpeakerIs the hon. Gentleman refusing to do that?
§ Mr. Sillarsindicated dissent.
§ Mr. SpeakerIf the hon. Gentleman refuses, I shall he forced to name him. I give the hon. Gentleman one more chance to leave the Chamber.
§ Mr. Sillarsindicated dissent.
§ Mr. SpeakerI name Mr. James Sillars.
§ Question put,
290§ That Mr. James Sillars be suspended from the service of the House.—[Mr. Wakehum]
§ The House proceeded to a Division:—
§ Mr. Patrick Cormack (Staffordshire, South)(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. In view of the time that has been wasted, if there should be occasion for a similar Division, will you use the powers vested in you under Standing Orders to allow us to vote by standing in our places?
§ Mr. SpeakerThat is hypothetical at the moment.
§ The House having divided: Ayes 376, Noes 16.
292| Division No. 120] | [3.33 pm |
| AYES | |
| Adley, Robert | Coombs, Simon (Swindon) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Cope, Rt Hon John |
| Alton, David | Cormack, Patrick |
| Amess, David | Cran, James |
| Amos, Alan | Crowther, Stan |
| Arbuthnot, James | Cummings, John |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Darling, Alistair |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) |
| Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Ashby, David | Day, Stephen |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Dewar, Donald |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Dixon, Don |
| Atkins, Robert | Dobson, Frank |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Doran, Frank |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Baldry, Tony | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Dover, Den |
| Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich) | Dunn, Bob |
| Batiste, Spencer | Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth |
| Beith, A. J. | Durant, Tony |
| Bell, Stuart | Dykes, Hugh |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Eggar, Tim |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Evans, John (St Helens W) |
| Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Evennett, David |
| Boateng, Paul | Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Fallon, Michael |
| Boswell, Tim | Fatchett, Derek |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | Favell, Tony |
| Bowis, John | Fearn, Ronald |
| Boyes, Roland | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Field, Frank (Birkenhead) |
| Brazier, Julian | Fishburn, John Dudley |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Fisher, Mark |
| Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) | Flynn, Paul |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Fookes, Dame Janet |
| Browne, John (Winchester) | Foot, Rt Hon Michael |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick | Forman, Nigel |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Burt, Alistair | Forth, Eric |
| Butcher, John | Foster, Derek |
| Butler, Chris | Foulkes, George |
| Butterfill, John | Fowler, Rt Hon Norman |
| Callaghan, Jim | Fox, Sir Marcus |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Franks, Cecil |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Freeman, Roger |
| Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) | French, Douglas |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Fry, Peter |
| Carrington, Matthew | Fyfe, Maria |
| Carttiss, Michael | Galbraith, Sam |
| Cash, William | Gardiner, George |
| Chapman, Sydney | Garrett, John (Norwich South) |
| Clark, Dr David (S Shields) | Garrett, Ted (Wallsend) |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Gill, Christopher |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Gilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian |
| Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) | Glyn, Dr Alan |
| Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Colvin, Michael | Goodhart, Sir Philip |
| Conway, Derek | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Gow, Ian | Lilley, Peter |
| Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) | Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Lord, Michael |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) | Luce, Rt Hon Richard |
| Grocott, Bruce | McCrindle, Robert |
| Grylls, Michael | Macdonald, Calum A. |
| Hague, William | McFall, John |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Macfarlane, Sir Neil |
| Hampson, Dr Keith | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Hanley, Jeremy | McKay, Allen (Barnsley West) |
| Hannam, John | MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) |
| Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) | Maclean, David |
| Harris, David | McLeish, Henry |
| Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy | Maclennan, Robert |
| Hawkins, Christopher | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney | McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael |
| Haynes, Frank | McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) |
| Heath, Rt Hon Edward | McNamara, Kevin |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Major, Rt Hon John |
| Heddle, John | Mans, Keith |
| Henderson, Doug | Maples, John |
| Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) | Marek, Dr John |
| Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. | Marlow, Tony |
| Hill, James | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Hind, Kenneth | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Holland, Stuart | Mates, Michael |
| Holt, Richard | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Hood, Jimmy | Maxton, John |
| Hordern, Sir Peter | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Howard, Michael | Meacher, Michael |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) | Meale, Alan |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Miller, Sir Hal |
| Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Mills, Iain |
| Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Howells, Geraint | Mitchell, Sir David |
| Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) | Moate, Roger |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Monro, Sir Hector |
| Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) | Moore, Rt Hon John |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Hunt, David (Wirral W) | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) |
| Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) | Morris, M (N'hampton S) |
| Hunter, Andrew | Morrison, Sir Charles |
| Ingram, Adam | Morrison, Rt Hon P (Chester) |
| Irvine, Michael | Moss, Malcolm |
| Jack, Michael | Mowlam, Marjorie |
| Janman, Tim | Neale, Gerrard |
| Janner, Greville | Nelson, Anthony |
| Jessel, Toby | Neubert, Michael |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Jones, Robert B (Herts W) | O'Brien, William |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | O'Neill, Martin |
| Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Kilfedder, James | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) | Owen, Rt Hon Dr David |
| Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil | Page, Richard |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Paice, James |
| Knapman, Roger | Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil |
| Knight, Greg (Derby North) | Patnick, Irvine |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) | Patten, John (Oxford W) |
| Knox, David | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Lamond, James | Pawsey, James |
| Lamont, Rt Hon Norman | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Lang, Ian | Porter, Barry (Wirral S) |
| Latham, Michael | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Portillo, Michael |
| Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Lee, John (Pendle) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) | Price, Sir David |
| Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark | Raison, Rt Hon Timothy |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Randall, Stuart |
| Rathbone, Tim | Strang, Gavin |
| Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn | Straw, Jack |
| Renton, Tim | Sumberg, David |
| Rhodes James, Robert | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Richardson, Jo | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Riddick, Graham | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Roberts, Allan (Bootle) | Taylor, Teddy (S'end E) |
| Robertson, George | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret |
| Rogers, Allan | Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) |
| Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) | Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck) |
| Rossi, Sir Hugh | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Rost, Peter | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Rowe, Andrew | Thurnham, Peter |
| Ruddock, Joan | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Rumbold, Mrs Angela | Tredinnick, David |
| Sackville, Hon Tom | Trotter, Neville |
| Sainsbury, Hon Tim | Turner, Dennis |
| Sayeed, Jonathan | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Scott, Nicholas | Viggers, Peter |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Wakeham, Rt Hon John |
| Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') | Walden, George |
| Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) | Walker, Rt Hon P. (W'cester) |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Wallace, James |
| Shersby, Michael | Waller, Gary |
| Shore, Rt Hon Peter | Walley, Joan |
| Sims, Roger | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Wareing, Robert N. |
| Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) | Warren, Kenneth |
| Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury) | Watts, John |
| Smith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E) | Wells, Bowen |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Wheeler, John |
| Soames, Hon Nicholas | Whitney, Ray |
| Soley, Clive | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Speed, Keith | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| Speller, Tony | Wilshire, David |
| Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) | Wilson, Brian |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Winnick, David |
| Squire, Robin | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Stanbrook, Ivor | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Wood, Timothy |
| Steen, Anthony | Worthington, Tony |
| Stern, Michael | Yeo, Tim |
| Stevens, Lewis | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) | |
| Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Stokes, Sir John | Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones and Mr. David Lightbown. |
| Stott, Roger |
| NOES | |
| Beggs, Roy | Salmond, Alex |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Cryer, Bob | Sillars, Jim |
| Douglas, Dick | Skinner, Dennis |
| Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) | Thomas, Dr Dafydd Elis |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Wigley, Dafydd |
| McGrady, Eddie | |
| Molyneaux, Rt Hon James | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Nellist, Dave | Mrs. Margaret Ewing and Mr. Andrew Welsh |
| Ross, William (Londonderry E) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§
Resolved,
The the hon. Member for Glasgow, Govan withdraw from the House.
§ Mr. Kinnockrose—[Interruption.]
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. The hon. Member for Govan must now leave the Chamber.
§ The hon. Member withdrew accordingly.