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Amendment made: No. 78, in page 8, line 24, at end insert
'(no declaration having been made under subsection (1) of section 15 of this Act as regards the ballot and no fresh ballot being required by virtue of subsection (2) of that section)'.—[Mr. Michael Forsyth.]
§ Amendment proposed, No. 79, in page 8, line 29, leave out 'by regulations'.—[Mr. Michael Forsyth.]
§ Question put, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 276, Noes 201.
197| Division No. 249] | [6.31 pm |
| AYES | |
| Adley, Robert | Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Favell, Tony |
| Alexander, Richard | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Forman, Nigel |
| Allason, Rupert | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Amess, David | Freeman, Roger |
| Amos, Alan | French, Douglas |
| Arbuthnot, James | Gill, Christopher |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Goodhart, Sir Philip |
| Ashby, David | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) |
| Atkinson, David | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Gregory, Conal |
| Batiste, Spencer | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) |
| Beaumont-Dark, Anthony | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Bendall, Vivian | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Hannam, John |
| Benyon, W. | Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Harris, David |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Hayes, Jerry |
| Body, Sir Richard | Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Hayward, Robert |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Boswell, Tim | Heddle, John |
| Bottomley, Peter | Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n) | Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE) |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Bowis, John | Hill, James |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes | Hind, Kenneth |
| Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Hordern, Sir Peter |
| Brazier, Julian | Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) |
| Bright, Graham | Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Browne, John (Winchester) | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick | Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Burns, Simon | Hunter, Andrew |
| Burt, Alistair | Irvine, Michael |
| Butler, Chris | Irving, Charles |
| Butterfill, John | Jack, Michael |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Janman, Tim |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Jessel, Toby |
| Carrington, Matthew | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Cash, William | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda | Jones, Robert B (Herts W) |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Chapman, Sydney | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Chope, Christopher | Key, Robert |
| Churchill, Mr | Kilfedder, James |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Colvin, Michael | Knapman, Roger |
| Conway, Derek | Knight, Greg (Derby North) |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Knox, David |
| Cope, Rt Hon John | Lamont, Rt Hon Norman |
| Cormack, Patrick | Lang, Ian |
| Couchman, James | Latham, Michael |
| Cran, James | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Critchley, Julian | Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Curry, David | Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Lightbown, David |
| Day, Stephen | Lilley, Peter |
| Devlin, Tim | Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) |
| Dicks, Terry | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Lord, Michael |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Luce, Rt Hon Richard |
| Dunn, Bob | McCrindle, Robert |
| Durant, Tony | Macfarlane, Sir Neil |
| Dykes, Hugh | MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) |
| Maclean, David | Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Sims, Roger |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Major, Rt Hon John | Soames, Hon Nicholas |
| Mans, Keith | Speed, Keith |
| Maples, John | Speller, Tony |
| Marland, Paul | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Squire, Robin |
| Mates, Michael | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Maude, Hon Francis | Steen, Anthony |
| Miller, Sir Hal | Stern, Michael |
| Mills, Iain | Stevens, Lewis |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) |
| Mitchell, Sir David | Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) |
| Moate, Roger | Stokes, Sir John |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Stradling Thomas, Sir John |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Summerson, Hugo |
| Moore, Rt Hon John | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Morris, M (N'hampton S) | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| Morrison, Sir Charles | Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman |
| Morrison, Rt Hon P (Chester) | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Moss, Malcolm | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Moynihan, Hon Colin | Thorne, Neil |
| Mudd, David | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Nelson, Anthony | Thurnham, Peter |
| Neubert, Michael | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Tracey, Richard |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Tredinnick, David |
| Norris, Steve | Trippier, David |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley | Trotter, Neville |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Page, Richard | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Paice, James | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Patnick, Irvine | Wakeham, Rt Hon John |
| Patten, John (Oxford W) | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Waller, Gary |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Ward, John |
| Porter, Barry (Wirral S) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Warren, Kenneth |
| Price, Sir David | Watts, John |
| Raison, Rt Hon Timothy | Wells, Bowen |
| Rathbone, Tim | Whitney, Ray |
| Redwood, John | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Renton, Tim | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Rhodes James, Robert | Wilkinson, John |
| Riddick, Graham | Wilshire, David |
| Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Ridsdale, Sir Julian | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm | Wolfson, Mark |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Wood, Timothy |
| Rossi, Sir Hugh | Yeo, Tim |
| Rost, Peter | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Rumbold, Mrs Angela | |
| Sayeed, Jonathan | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Mr. Michael Fallon and |
| Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') | Mr. Tom Sackville. |
| NOES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Blunkett, David |
| Adams, Allen (Paisley N) | Boateng, Paul |
| Allen, Graham | Boyes, Roland |
| Alton, David | Bray, Dr Jeremy |
| Anderson, Donald | Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Buckley, George J. |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Caborn, Richard |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Callaghan, Jim |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) |
| Barron, Kevin | Campbell-Savours, D. N. |
| Battle, John | Canavan, Dennis |
| Beckett, Margaret | Clark, Dr David (S Shields) |
| Beith, A. J. | Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) |
| Bell, Stuart | Clay, Bob |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Clelland, David |
| Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) | Cohen, Harry |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Cook, Frank (Stockton N) |
| Blair, Tony | Cook, Robin (Livingston) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | McLeish, Henry |
| Cryer, Bob | Maclennan, Robert |
| Cummings, John | McNamara, Kevin |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | McWilliam, John |
| Dalyell, Tam | Madden, Max |
| Darling, Alistair | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Marek, Dr John |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l) | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Dewar, Donald | Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) |
| Dixon, Don | Martlew, Eric |
| Dobson, Frank | Maxton, John |
| Doran, Frank | Meale, Alan |
| Douglas, Dick | Michael, Alun |
| Duffy, A. E. P. | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute) |
| Eadie, Alexander | Moonie, Dr Lewis |
| Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Fatchett, Derek | Morley, Elliott |
| Fearn, Ronald | Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe) |
| Field, Frank (Birkenhead) | Mowlam, Marjorie |
| Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n) | Mullin, Chris |
| Fisher, Mark | Murphy, Paul |
| Flannery, Martin | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Flynn, Paul | O'Brien, William |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | O'Neill, Martin |
| Foster, Derek | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Foulkes, George | Parry, Robert |
| Fraser, John | Patchett, Terry |
| Fyfe, Maria | Pendry, Tom |
| Galbraith, Sam | Pike, Peter L. |
| Galloway, George | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Garrett, John (Norwich South) | Prescott, John |
| Garrett, Ted (Wallsend) | Quin, Ms Joyce |
| Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John | Radice, Giles |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Randall, Stuart |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Redmond, Martin |
| Graham, Thomas | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn |
| Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) | Reid, Dr John |
| Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) | Richardson, Jo |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Roberts, Allan (Bootle) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Robinson, Geoffrey |
| Hardy, Peter | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy | Rowlands, Ted |
| Haynes, Frank | Ruddock, Joan |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Salmond, Alex |
| Henderson, Doug | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Hinchliffe, David | Sheerman, Barry |
| Home Robertson, John | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Hood, Jimmy | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Short, Clare |
| Howell, Rt Hon D. (S'heath) | Sillars, Jim |
| Howells, Geraint | Skinner, Dennis |
| Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Hughes, John (Coventry NE) | Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury) |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Smith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E) |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | Smith, J. P. (Vale of Glam) |
| Illsley, Eric | Snape, Peter |
| Ingram, Adam | Spearing, Nigel |
| Janner, Greville | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Johnston, Sir Russell | Stott, Roger |
| Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) | Strang, Gavin |
| Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn) | Straw, Jack |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Kennedy, Charles | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck) |
| Lambie, David | Turner, Dennis |
| Leadbitter, Ted | Vaz, Keith |
| Leighton, Ron | Wall, Pat |
| Lestor, Joan (Eccles) | Wallace, James |
| Litherland, Robert | Walley, Joan |
| Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Wareing, Robert N. |
| Loyden, Eddie | Watson, Mike (Glasgow, C) |
| McAllion, John | Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N) |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Wigley, Dafydd |
| McCartney, Ian | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| Macdonald, Calum A. | Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then) |
| McFall, John | Wilson, Brian |
| McKelvey, William | Winnick, David |
| Wise, Mrs Audrey | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Wray, Jimmy | Mr. Ken Eastham and |
| Young, David (Bolton SE) | Mr. Allen McKay |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Amendments made: No. 80, in page 8, line 37, leave out paragraphs (a) to (c).
§ No. 81, in page 9, line 5, leave out 'and'.
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No. 82, in page 9, line 6, at end insert—
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(g) give such other information as may be prescribed.'. No. 83, in page 9, line 15, leave out 'provision, if any' and insert 'range of provisions'.
§ No. 84, in page 9, line 15, leave out 'makes' and insert 'has'.
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No. 85, in page 9, line 41, leave out from second 'the' to end of line 48 and insert—
'persons who are members of the school board shall be constituted as an interim board of management on the school's becoming self-governing but that the interim board shall he succeeded, within three months after the incorporation date, by a board of management the parent members and staff members of which will be elected and on which the parent members will constitute an overall majority.'.—[Mr. Michael Forsyth.]