HC Deb 25 May 1988 vol 134 cc480-2 3.15 am

Amendment proposed: No. 24, in page 3, line 12, leave out from beginning to `to' and insert `This section applies where a person—

  1. (a) sells, lets on hire or gives a shot gun; or
  2. (b) lends a shot gun for a period of more than forty-eight hours,'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it: and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 25, in page 3, line 17, leave out '(a)' and insert `(1A)'.—[.Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it: and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 26, in page 3, line 20, leave out 'forty-eight hours' and insert 'seven days'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division—

Mr. William Ross

(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It will be within your recollection that your colleague in the Chair drew attention to the fact that certain hon. Members were standing when the votes were taken although they were beyond the Bar. I have been watching carefully and have noticed that the hon. Member for Staffordshire, South-East (Mr. Lightbown), who is at present beyond the Bar; together with one of his colleagues directly in front of him, and several Members on the Back Benches, have been standing every time. Is that in order? Surely they are beyond the Bar and cannot vote.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

As my predecessor in the Chair said, it would be helpful, in the fairly unusual situation that we are going through, if hon. Members were actually inside or outside the Chamber. That would make it easier, especially for the Clerks, to take the count of those who do not support my decisions.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it; and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 27, in page 3 line 26, leave out '(b)' and insert '(1B)'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it; and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 28, in page 3, line 26, leave out 'forty-eight hours' and insert 'seven days'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it; and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

3.30 am

Amendment proposed: No. 29, in page 3, line 29 leave out `(1)' and insert '(1A) or (1B)'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division—

Mr. William Ross

(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am getting to like this hat. We are having great difficulty in hearing which amendment you are calling, because of the noise. Would it be possible for you to turn down the volume on the Government side of the House or to turn up the volume of your loudspeaker so that we can hear more clearly?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

I am glad to respond to the hon. Gentleman's request.

Mr. Ross

Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Which amendment are we on now?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

No. 29.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it; and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

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