HC Deb 25 May 1988 vol 134 cc479-80

Amendment proposed: No. 42, in page 2, line 27, leave out from 'which' to 'gun' in line 32 and insert—

  1. `(i) has a barrel not less than 24 inches in length and does not have any barrel with a bore exceeding 2 inches in diameter;
  2. (ii) either has no magazine or has a non-detachable magazine incapable of holding more than two cartridges; and
  3. (iii) is not a revolver'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division—

Mr. Salmond (seated and covered)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As I understand the procedure, you have to use your discretion and judgment in determining whether a Division is necessary. Presumably you do that on the basis of the noise on each side of the House. How can you differentiate between the noise made by hon. Members in the Chamber and that made by those outside the Chamber?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

I use not only my ears but my eyes.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it; and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 43, in page 2, line 32, at end insert— '(2A) After subsection (3) there shall be inserted— (3A) A gun which has been adapted to have such a magazine as is mentioned in subsection (3)(a)(ii) above shall not be regarded as falling within that provision unless the magazine bears a mark approved by the Secretary of State for denoting that fact and that mark has been made, and the adaptation has been certified in writing as having been carried out in a mariner approved by him, either by one of the two companies mentioned in section 58(1) of this Act or by such other person as may be approved by him for that purpose.".'.—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it: and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

Mr. Cryer

I spy Strangers.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

Order. We are in the middle of a series of decisions, and I am not prepared to accept that motion.

Amendment proposed: No. 44, in page 2, line 33, leave out subsection (3).—[Mr. Douglas Hogg.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House proceeded to a Division, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER stated that he thought that the Ayes had it: and, on his decision being challenged, it appeared to him that the Division was unnecessarily claimed, and he accordingly called upon the Members who supported and challenged his decision successively to rise in their places, and he declared that the Ayes had it.

Amendment agreed to.

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