§ 2. Mr. CanavanTo ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what is the latest balance of trade in manufactured goods.
§ Mr. Alan ClarkIn the first quarter of 1988 there was an estimated deficit on trade in manufacturers of £2.9 billion.
§ Mr. CanavanWhen does the Minister expect the Government to get trade in manufactured goods back to the surplus that they inherited from the previous Labour Government?
§ Mr. ClarkI refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer that I gave him on 13 January. In case he has forgotten what it was, I recommended that he ask his constituents and, if he thought it advisable, that he reproach them—
§ Mr. CanavanAnswer the question.
§ Mr. CanavanWhen do the Government hope to get back in surplus? Answer the question.
§ Mr. SpeakerI do hope not.
§ Mr. ClarkI am divided between my wish to accede to your desire, Mr. Speaker, and the vociferous requests by the hon. Member for Falkirk, West (Mr. Canavan).
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. Perhaps the balance could be in my favour today.
§ Mr. Beaumont-DarkDoes my hon. Friend agree that two problems face manufacturing industries and the balance at present? First, it seems that the Government, for some unknown reason, wish to keep the pound higher than it conceivably should be, which is dangerous for manufacturing industry. Secondly, when there is a monopolies and mergers problem, which we all have in manufacturing industry, the Government must look to 1992 and not stop companies such as Cadbury and Rowntree, which may like to merge, when others are not stopped from approaching them. Do we not have to look at this as a matter of urgency, and not in some cosy, quiet way?
§ Mr. ClarkI have great respect for my hon. Friend's judgment, but I do not necessarily extend it to his judgment of so-called real exchange rate values. The three strongest manufacturing exporters in the world—Japan, Germany and Switzerland—have the three strongest currencies.
§ Mr. James LamondWhy does the Minister not try to help resolve the dreadful balance of payments problem and save his own job at the same time by clamping down much more firmly on the unfair competition from Turkish yarn and textiles, which is beginning to threaten the fragile recovery of our textile industry and is already causing redundancies in textile firms in the north-west of England?
§ Mr. ClarkThe industry, which is co-operating with my officials, is preparing an anti-dumping case. The hon. Gentleman will be interested to hear that the figures for the first quarter of this year show that imports of Turkish acrylic yarn are down by 75 per cent.
§ Sir John FarrIs my hon. Friend aware that the other day one of the biggest hosiery manufacturers in Leicester equipped itself with Italian knitting machines? When purchases of that magnitude go abroad, does my hon. Friend look into the reason why, and if not, does he not think that in future large acquisitions of such foreign machinery should be monitored?
§ Mr. ClarkI do not find that objectionable. I regret that we do not make knitting machines in this country that are acceptable to the firm in my hon. Friend's constituency. As I told the hon. Member for Falkirk, West (Mr. Canavan), we are in equilibrium on capital goods, exports and imports. If those machines are used to manufacture finished products that will be exported and sold, all the better, I say.
§ Mr. SpeakerMr. Roger Stott. Sorry, Mr. Austin Mitchell.
§ Mr. Austin MitchellThank you, Mr. Speaker. That shows the benefit of appearing on television so frequently.
Does the Minister realise that his complacent answer amounted to saying that we are in balance except for the deficit in manufactured trade? Does he not realise the horrendous effect of the 18 per cent. rise of the pound sterling in real terms since the end of 1986, which will be disastrous for manufacturing industry? To illustrate that, may I ask him whether, in his view, the deficit in manufactured trade—in the first quarter it was running at£11.5 billion per annum compared to a surplus in 1978 of £.5.5 billion, updated to 1987 values, which is a turnaround of £17 billion in manufactured trade—represents a loss of 750,000 jobs, 1 million jobs or 12.5 million jobs?
§ Mr. ClarkThe figures that I gave the hon. Gentleman are up to date. They are for the first quarter of this year, when the exchange rate factor applied in the manufacturing sector. The only sector in which we are in deficit is consumer goods.