§ 75. Mr. Dalyell
To ask the Minister for the Civil Service what proposals he has, in the light of the new 18 proposed regime for the Civil Service, to afford protection to those civil servants who allege that they have been misused by Ministers.
§ Mr. Dalyell
In an age when many Conservatives sadly acknowledge that Mr. Bernard Ingham has become the most important man in British politics, who can tell a well-loved Leader of the House that he has become semidetached and then that he will be sacked, is it not important that an ex-civil servant such as Miss Colette Bowe and a civil servant such as Mr. John Mogg should be able to go to an outside body to air their grievances, rather than having to place their accounts of events such as Westland in a bank vault?
§ Mr. Luce
The hon. Gentleman does not seem to have taken account of the guidelines issued on 2 December 1987 concerning the duties and responsibilities of civil servants in relation to Ministers. They provide for new procedures, allowing a civil servant to appeal — in cases of conscience and other matters—first to his senior, then to the permanent secretary and, if necessary, to the Head of the Civil Service. Those procedures, which are totally new, are ideal for the Civil Service and provide a perfectly reasonable outlet.
§ Mr. Stokes
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the real problem is not so much the misuse of civil servants by Ministers, as the misuse of procedure by the hon. Member for Linlithgow (Mr. Dalyell), with his tedious and repetitive questions, of which we are all sick and tired?
§ Mr. Tony Banks
Has Mr. Bernard Ingham ever complained about being misused by Ministers, or is he happy doing the Prime Minister's dirty work?