§ 'Schedule (Social security) below (which amends the Social Security Act 1986 so as to make provision for benefits in respect of community charges in England and Wales and Scotland) shall have effect.'.—[Mr. Ridley.]
§ Brought up, and read the First and Second time.
§
Amendment (a) proposed as an amendment to the proposed clause, at beginning insert—
'After making a report to Parliament on how community charge affects families and those on low incomes, the Secretary of State shall produce a scheme for rebates up to 100 per cent. and'.—[Dr. Cunningham.]
§ Question put, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 225, Noes 330.
917| Division No. 268] | [8.57 pm |
| AYES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l) |
| Adams, Allen (Paisley N) | Dewar, Donald |
| Allen, Graham | Dixon, Don |
| Anderson, Donald | Dobson, Frank |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Doran, Frank |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Douglas, Dick |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Duffy, A. E. P. |
| Ashton, Joe | Dunnachie, Jimmy |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Eadie, Alexander |
| Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich) | Evans, John (St Helens N) |
| Barron, Kevin | Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) |
| Battle, John | Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) |
| Beckett, Margaret | Faulds, Andrew |
| Bell, Stuart | Field, Frank (Birkenhead) |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n) |
| Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) | Fisher, Mark |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Flannery, Martin |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Flynn, Paul |
| Blair, Tony | Foot, Rt Hon Michael |
| Boateng, Paul | Foster, Derek |
| Boyes, Roland | Foulkes, George |
| Bradley, Keith | Fraser, John |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Fyfe, Maria |
| Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) | Galbraith, Sam |
| Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) | Garrett, John (Norwich South) |
| Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) | Garrett, Ted (Wallsend) |
| Buchan, Norman | George, Bruce |
| Caborn, Richard | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Callaghan, Jim | Goodhart, Sir Philip |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Gordon, Mildred |
| Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) | Gould, Bryan |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Graham, Thomas |
| Canavan, Dennis | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) | Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) |
| Cartwright, John | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Clark, Dr David (S Shields) | Hardy, Peter |
| Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) | Harman, Ms Harriet |
| Clay, Bob | Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney |
| Clelland, David | Haynes, Frank |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Heffer, Eric S. |
| Cohen, Harry | Henderson, Doug |
| Coleman, Donald | Hinchliffe, David |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Holland, Stuart |
| Corbett, Robin | Home Robertson, John |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Howell, Rt Hon D. (S'heath) |
| Cousins, Jim | Howells, Geraint |
| Cox, Tom | Hughes, John (Coventry NE) |
| Crowther, Stan | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Cryer, Bob | Hughes, Roy (Newport E) |
| Cummings, John | Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Cunningham, Dr John | Illsley, Eric |
| Dalyell, Tam | Janner, Greville |
| Darling, Alistair | John, Brynmor |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn) |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) | Redmond, Martin |
| Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn |
| Kennedy, Charles | Reid, Dr John |
| Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil | Richardson, Jo |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Roberts, Allan (Bootle) |
| Lambie, David | Robertson, George |
| Lamond, James | Robinson, Geoffrey |
| Leighton, Ron | Rogers, Allan |
| Lestor, Joan (Eccles) | Rooker, Jeff |
| Lewis, Terry | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Litherland, Robert | Rowlands, Ted |
| Livsey, Richard | Ruddock, Joan |
| Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Salmond, Alex |
| Loyden, Eddie | Sedgemore, Brian |
| McAllion, John | Sheerman, Barry |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| McCartney, Ian | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Macdonald, Calum A. | Short, Clare |
| McFall, John | Skinner, Dennis |
| McKay, Allen (Barnsley West) | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| McKelvey, William | Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury) |
| McNamara, Kevin | Smith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E) |
| McTaggart, Bob | Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S) |
| McWilliam, John | Snape, Peter |
| Madden, Max | Soley, Clive |
| Mahon, Mrs Alice | Spearing, Nigel |
| Marek, Dr John | Steel, Rt Hon David |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) | Stott, Roger |
| Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) | Strang, Gavin |
| Martlew, Eric | Straw, Jack |
| Maxton, John | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Michael, Alun | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Michie. Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Thomas, Dr Dafydd Elis |
| Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute) | Turner, Dennis |
| Millan, Rt Hon Bruce | Vaz, Keith |
| Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby) | Wall, Pat |
| Moonie, Dr Lewis | Wallace, James |
| Morgan, Rhodri | Walley, Joan |
| Morley, Elliott | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Wareing, Robert N. |
| Mowlam, Marjorie | Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) |
| Murphy, Paul | Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N) |
| Nellist, Dave | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| O'Brien, William | Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then) |
| O'Neill, Martin | Wilson, Brian |
| Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Winnick, David |
| Parry, Robert | Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Patchett, Terry | Worthington, Tony |
| Pendry, Tom | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Pike, Peter L. | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Powell, Ray (Ogmore) | |
| Prescott, John | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Primarolo, Dawn | Mrs. Llin Golding and |
| Quin, Ms Joyce | Mr. Ken Eastham. |
| Radice, Giles |
| NOES | |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Biffen, Rt Hon John |
| Alexander, Richard | Blackburn, Dr John G. |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Allason, Rupert | Body, Sir Richard |
| Amess, David | Bonsor, Sir Nicholas |
| Amos, Alan | Boscawen, Hon Robert |
| Arbuthnot, James | Boswell, Tim |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Bottomley, Peter |
| Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) | Bottomley, Mrs Virginia |
| Ashby, David | Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Bowis, John |
| Atkins, Robert | Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes |
| Atkinson, David | Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Brandon-Bravo, Martin |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Brazier, Julian |
| Baldry, Tony | Bright, Graham |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Brittan, Rt Hon Leon |
| Batiste, Spencer | Brooke, Rt Hon Peter |
| Bellingham, Henry | Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Browne, John (Winchester) |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Burns, Simon | Hannam, John |
| Burt, Alistair | Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') |
| Butcher, John | Harris, David |
| Butler, Chris | Hawkins, Christopher |
| Butterfill, John | Hayes, Jerry |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Heddle, John |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda | Hill, James |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hind, Kenneth |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Chope, Christopher | Holt, Richard |
| Churchill, Mr | Hordern, Sir Peter |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) | Howard, Michael |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochiord) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) |
| Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Colvin, Michael | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Conway, Derek | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) |
| Cope, John | Hunter, Andrew |
| Couchman, James | Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Cran, James | Irving, Charles |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Jack, Michael |
| Curry, David | Jackson, Robert |
| Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) | Janman, Tim |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Jessel, Toby |
| Day, Stephen | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Devlin, Tim | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Dickens, Geoffrey | Jones, Robert B (Herts W) |
| Dicks, Terry | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine: |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Key, Robert |
| Dover, Den | Kilfedder, James |
| Dunn, Bob | King, Roger (B'ham N'thtield) |
| Durant, Tony | King, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater) |
| Eggar, Tim | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Emery, Sir Peter | Knapman, Roger |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) | Knight, Greg (Derby North) |
| Evennett, David | Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) |
| Fallon, Michael | Knowles, Michael |
| Farr, Sir John | Lamont, Rt Hon Norman |
| Favell, Tony | Lang, Ian |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Latham, Michael |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey | Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel |
| Fookes, Miss Janet | Lee, John (Pendle) |
| Forman, Nigel | Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Forth, Eric | Lilley, Peter |
| Fowler, Rt Hon Norman | Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) |
| Fox, Sir Marcus | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Franks, Cecil | Lord, Michael |
| Freeman, Roger | Luce, Rt Hon Richard |
| French, Douglas | Lyell, Sir Nicholas |
| Fry, Peter | McCrindle, Robert |
| Gale, Roger | Macfarlane, Sir Neil |
| Gardiner, George | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Goodlad, Alastair | MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Maclean, David |
| Gorman, Mrs Teresa | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Gorst, John | McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) |
| Gow, Ian | McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) |
| Gower, Sir Raymond | Major, Rt Hon John |
| Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) | Mans, Keith |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Maples, John |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Marlow, Tony |
| Gregory, Conal | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E') | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Grist, Ian | Maude, Hon Francis |
| Ground, Patrick | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Grylls, Michael | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick |
| Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) | Mellor, David |
| Miller, Hal | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Mills, Iain | Soames, Hon Nicholas |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Speed, Keith |
| Mitchell, David (Hants NW) | Speller, Tony |
| Moate, Roger | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Moore, Rt Hon John | Stanley, Rt Hon John |
| Morris, M (N'hampton S) | Steen, Anthony |
| Morrison, Hon P (Chester) | Stern, Michael |
| Moss, Malcolm | Stevens, Lewis |
| Moynihan, Hon Colin | Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) |
| Neale, Gerrard | Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) |
| Needham, Richard | Stewart, Ian (Hertfordshire N) |
| Nelson, Anthony | Stokes, John |
| Neubert, Michael | Stradling Thomas, Sir John |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Sumberg, David |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Summerson, Hugo |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Taylor, Teddy (S'end E) |
| Page, Richard | Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman |
| Paice, James | Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) |
| Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Patnick, Irvine | Thorne, Neil |
| Patten, Chris (Bath) | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Patten, John (Oxford W) | Thurnham, Peter |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Pawsey, James | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Porter, Barry (Wirral S) | Tracey, Richard |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Tredinnick, David |
| Portillo, Michael | Trippier, David |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Trotter, Neville |
| Price, Sir David | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Rattan, Keith | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Raison, Rt Hon Timothy | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Rathbone, Tim | Wakeham, Rt Hon John |
| Redwood, John | Waldegrave, Hon William |
| Renton, Tim | Walden, George |
| Rhodes James, Robert | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Riddick, Graham | Walker, Rt Hon P. (W'cester) |
| Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas | Waller, Gary |
| Ridsdale, Sir Julian | Walters, Dennis |
| Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm | Ward, John |
| Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Warren, Kenneth |
| Rossi, Sir Hugh | Watts, John |
| Rost, Peter | Wells, Bowen |
| Rowe, Andrew | Wheeler, John |
| Rumbold, Mrs Angela | Whitney, Ray |
| Ryder, Richard | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Sackville,' Hon Tom | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Sainsbury, Hon Tim | Wilkinson, John |
| Sayeed, Jonathan | Wilshire, David |
| Scott, Nicholas | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Shelton, William (Streatham) | Wood, Timothy |
| Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) | Woodcock, Mike |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Yeo, Tim |
| Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Shersby, Michael | |
| Sims, Roger | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones and |
| Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) | Mr. David Lightbown. |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
§ It being after Nine o'clock, MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER proceeded, pursuant to the Orders [22 February and 13 April] and the Resolution [18 April], to put forthwith the Question necessary to bring to a decision the Question already proposed from the Chair.
§ Clause added to the Bill.