HC Deb 21 July 1987 vol 120 cc334-9

Motion made, and Question proposed,

In this Resolution "year" means a year ending with 31st March, and for the purposes of this Resolution—

  1. (i) the relevant percentage for any year is the percentage by which the amount of salary (exclusive of allowances and overtime) payable for that year to a person in the Home Civil Service at the maximum point on the scale for Senior Personal Secretaries and in receipt of Inner London weighting exceeds the corresponding amount for the immediately preceding year;
  2. (ii) any fraction of a pound in the amount obtained as mentioned in paragraph (b)(ii) or (iii) above for any year shall be treated as a whole pound if it is not less than 50 pence, but shall otherwise be disregarded.—[Mr. Wakeham.]

Amendment proposed to the Question, in line 11, leave out from 'be' to end of line 18 and insert—

'the amount obtained by increasing £20,140 by the relevant percentage, and (ii) for any subsequent year, the limit should be the amount obtained by increasing the limit applicable to the immediately preceding year by the relevant percentage (so that, if the relevant percentage for any year is nil, the limit remains the same for that year);', — [Mr. Madden.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House divided: Ayes 241, Noes 198.

Division No. 25] [12.06 am
AYES
Abbott, Ms Diane Corbyn, Jeremy
Adams, Allen (Paisley N) Cousins, Jim
Alton, David Cran, James
Amess, David Crowther, Stan
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Cryer, Bob
Armstrong, Ms Hilary Cunliffe, Lawrence
Ashby, David Dalyell, Tam
Ashdown, Paddy Darling, Alastair
Ashton, Joe Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)
Banks, Tony (Newham NW) Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Davis, David (Boothferry)
Barron, Kevin Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'I)
Battle, John Dewar, Donald
Beckett, Margaret Dickens, Geoffrey
Bell, Stuart Dixon, Don
Bendall, Vivian Dobson, Frank
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) Doran, Frank
Bermingham, Gerald Douglas, Dick
Blair, Tony Dover, Den
Blunkett, David Duffy, A. E. P.
Boateng, Paul Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth
Bowis, John Eadie, Alexander
Boyes, Roland Evans, John (St Helens N)
Bradley, Keith Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)
Bray, Dr Jeremy Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray)
Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) Fatchett, Derek
Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Browne, John (Winchester) Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n)
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) Fisher, Mark
Buck, Sir Antony Flannery, Martin
Buckley, George Flynn, Paul
Caborn, Richard Foot, Rt Hon Michael
Callaghan, Jim Foster, Derek
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Foulkes, George
Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) Fraser, John
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Fyfe, Mrs Maria
Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) Galloway, George
Cartwright, John Garrett, John (Norwich South)
Clark, Dr David (S Shields) Garrett, Ted (Wallsend)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) George, Bruce
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Clay, Bob Golding, Mrs Llin
Clelland, David Gordon, Ms Mildred
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Gould, Bryan
Coleman, Donald Gower, Sir Raymond
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Graham, Thomas
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Grant, Bernie (Tottenham)
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Corbett, Robin Grocott, Bruce
Hardy, Peter Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Haselhurst, Alan Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute)
Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy Millan, Rt Hon Bruce
Haynes, Frank Miscampbell, Norman
Healey, Rt Hon Denis Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby)
Henderson, Douglas Moonie, Dr Lewis
Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE) Morgan, Rhodri
Hinchliffe, David Morley, Elliott
Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) Morris, Rt Hon A (W'shawe)
Holland, Stuart Morris, Rt Hon J (Aberavon)
Home Robertson, John Mowlam, Mrs Marjorie
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Mullin, Chris
Howell, Rt Hon D. (S'heath) Murphy, Paul
Howells, Geraint Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Hoyle, Doug O'Brien, William
Hughes, John (Coventry NE) O'Neill, Martin
Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Hughes, Roy (Newport E) Paice, James
Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S) Parry, Robert
Hughes, Simon (Southwark) Patchett, Terry
Illsley, Eric Patnick, Irvine
Ingram, Adam Pendry, Tom
Jack, Michael Pike, Peter
John, Brynmor Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Johnston, Sir Russell Prescott, John
Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn) Primarolo, Ms Dawn
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) Quin, Ms Joyce
Kennedy, Charles Randall, Stuart
Key, Robert Redmond, Martin
Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn
Kirkwood, Archy Reid, John
Knox, David Richardson, Ms Jo
Lambie, David Roberts, Allan (Bootle)
Lamond, James Robertson, George
Leadbitter, Ted Robinson, Geoffrey
Leighton, Ron Rogers, Allan
Lestor, Miss Joan (Eccles) Rooker, Jeff
Lewis, Terry Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Litherland, Robert Rowe, Andrew
Livingstone, Ken Ruddock, Ms Joan
Livsey, Richard Salmond, Alex
Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) Sedgemore, Brian
Lofthouse, Geoffrey Sheerman, Barry
Loyden, Eddie Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
McAllion, John Shore, Rt Hon Peter
McAvoy, Tom Short, Clare
McCartney, Ian Skinner, Dennis
Macdonald, Calum Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
McFall, John Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury)
McKay, Allen (Penistone) Smith, Cyril (Rochdale)
McKelvey, William Snape, Peter
McLeish, Henry Soley, Clive
Maclennan, Robert Spearing, Nigel
McNamara, Kevin Squire, Robin
McTaggart, Bob Steinberg, Gerald
McWilliam, John Stott, Roger
Madden, Max Strang, Gavin
Mahon, Mrs Alice Straw, Jack
Mans, Keith Summerson, Hugo
Marek, Dr John Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Temple-Morris, Peter
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Vaz, Keith
Martin, Michael (Springburn) Wall, Pat
Martlew, Eric Walley, Ms Joan
Maxton, John Warden, Gareth (Gower)
Meale, Alan Wareing, Robert N.
Michael, Alun Wells, Bowen
Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N) Wise, Mrs Audrey
Wigley, Dafydd Worthington, Anthony
Williams, Rt Hon A. J.
Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then) Tellers for the Ayes:
Wilson, Brian Mr. Dave Nellist and
Winnick, David Mr. Graham Allen.
NOES
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)
Arbuthnot, James Harris, David
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Hayes, Jerry
Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney
Atkins. Robert Hayward, Robert
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Heath, Rt Hon Edward
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Heathcoat-Amory, David
Baldry, Tony Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
Batiste, Spencer Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Beaumont-Dark, Anthony Hind, Kenneth
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Howard, Michael
Boscawen, Hon Robert Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Boswell, Tim Hunt, David (Wirral W)
Bottomley, Peter Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Irvine, Michael
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) Jackson, Robert
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Janman, Timothy
Brooke, Hon Peter Jessel, Toby
Burt, Alistair Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Butcher, John Kilfedder, James
Butler, Chris King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Kirkhope, Timothy
Carrington, Matthew Knapman, Roger
Cash, William Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Knowles, Michael
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Lamont, Rt Hon Norman
Chapman, Sydney Lang, Ian
Chope, Christopher Latham, Michael
Churchill, Mr Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel
Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) Lee, John (Pendle)
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Lilley, Peter
Cope, John Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)
Couchman, James Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Currie. Mrs Edwina Luce, Rt Hon Richard
Curry, David Lyell, Sir Nicholas
Day, Stephen McCrindle, Robert
Dicks, Terry MacGregor, John
Dorrell, Stephen MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Maclean, David
Dunn, Bob McLoughlin, Patrick
Durant, Tony Major, Rt Hon John
Eggar, Tim Malins, Humfrey
Emery, Sir Peter Maples, John
Fallon, Michael Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Favell, Tony Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey Maude, Hon Francis
Fookes, Miss Janet Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Forman, Nigel Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Mellor, David
Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S) Mills, Iain
Forth, Eric Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Fowler, Rt Hon Norman Mitchell, David (Hants NW)
Freeman, Roger Moate, Roger
French, Douglas Molyneaux, Rt Hon James
Fry, Peter Moore, Rt Hon John
Gale, Roger Morrison, Hon P (Chester)
Garel-Jones, Tristan Moss, Malcolm
Gill, Christopher Moynihan, Hon C.
Glyn, Dr Alan Neale, Gerrard
Goodhart, Sir Philip Neubert, Michael
Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles Newton, Tony
Gow, Ian Nicholls, Patrick
Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) Nicholson, David (Taunton)
Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E') Nicholson, Miss E. (Devon W)
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) Onslow, Cranley
Grist, Ian Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil
Ground, Patrick Patten, Chris (Bath)
Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn Patten, John (Oxford W)
Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom) Porter, David (Waveney)
Hanley, Jeremy Portillo, Michael
Raffan, Keith Stewart, Andrew (Sherwood)
Raison, Rt Hon Timothy Stewart, Ian (Hertfordshire N)
Rathbone, Tim Stradling Thomas, Sir John
Redwood, John Sumberg, David
Renton, Tim Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Rhodes James, Robert Taylor, Rt Hon J. D. (S'ford)
Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Riddick, Graham Thurnham, Peter
Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas Tracey, Richard
Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm Tredinnick, David
Roe, Mrs Marion Trippier, David
Ross, William (Londonderry E) Twinn, Dr Ian
Rossi, Sir Hugh Viggers, Peter
Rumbold, Mrs Angela Waddington, Rt Hon David
Ryder, Richard Wakeham, Rt Hon John
Sackville, Hon Tom Waldegrave, Hon William
Sainsbury, Hon Tim Walden, George
Scott, Nicholas Waller, Gary
Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') Ward, John
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) Watts, John
Shersby, Michael Widdecombe, Miss Ann
Skeet, Sir Trevor Winterton, Mrs Ann
Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) Winterton, Nicholas
Soames, Hon Nicholas Wood, Timothy
Spicer, Jim (Dorset W)
Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) Tellers for the Noes:
Stern, Michael Mr. David Lightbown and Mr. Alan Howarth.
Stevens, Lewis
Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)

Question accordingly agreed to.

Main Question, as amended, put and agreed to.

Resolved, That in the opinion of this House— (a) the allowance payable to a Member of this House in respect of the aggregate expenses incurred by him for his Parliamentary duties—

  1. (i) as general office expenses (including expenses incurred in the purchase of office equipment),
  2. (ii) on secretarial assistance, and
  3. (iii) on research assistance for work undertaken in the proper performance of such duties,
should be known as the office costs allowance; (b) the limit on the office costs allowance should be determined as follows—
  1. (i) for the year ending with 31st March 1988, the limit should be the amount obtained by increasing £20,140 by the relevant percentage, and
  2. (ii) for any subsequent year, the limit should be the amount obtained by increasing the limit applicable to the immediately preceding year by the relevant percentage (so that if the relevant percentage for any year is nil, the limit remains the same for that year);
(c) the arrangements approved by Mr. Speaker pursuant to paragraph (b) of the second Resolution of 19th July 1983 (payments by Fees Office in respect of secretarial and research assistance) should include arrangements for securing that, before any salary or fee is paid to any person in respect of his employment by the Member concerned, the Member—
  1. (i) in the case of a person by law entitled to receive a written statement of the main terms and conditions of that employment, has furnished the Fees Office with a copy of any such statement and has furnished the Fees Office and that person with a statement containing a job description relating to that employment, or
  2. (ii) in the case of any other person, has furnished the Fees Office and that person with a statement containing a job description relating to that employment and has either included in that statement 339 details of that person's pay and hours of work or furnished the Fees Office with a copy of a written contract relating to that employment,
  3. together with arrangements for securing that, before any other payment is made in respect of services provided by any person, the Member concerned has furnished the Fees Office with invoices specifying the services in question;
(d) the limit applicable to the sums referred to in paragraph (b) of the third Resolution of 5th June 1981 (pension contributions for Members' secretaries and research assistants) should, for the year ending with 31st March 1988 and any subsequent year, be equal to—
  1. (i) 10 per cent, of the salary, or (as the case may be) of the aggregate amount of the salaries, payable for that year to the person or persons in respect of whom any such sums are paid, or
  2. (ii) 10 per cent. of the amount which is the limit for that year on the office costs allowance,
whichever is less.
In this Resolution "year" means a year ending with 31st March, and for the purposes of this Resolution—
  1. (i) the relevant percentage for any year is the percentage by which the amount of salary (exclusive of allowances and overtime) payable for that year to a person in the Home Civil Service at the maximum point on the scale for Senior Personal Secretaries and in receipt of Inner London weighting exceeds the corresponding amount for the immediately preceding year;
  2. (ii) any fraction of a pound in the amount as mentioned in paragraph (b)(ii) or (iii) above for any year shall be treated as a whole pound if it is not less than 50 pence, but shall otherwise be disregarded.