§ 12. Mr. Fatchettasked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action he is taking in the light of the National Audit Office report on university funding; and if he will make a statement.
§ Mr. BrookeThe National Audit Office report itself identifies some action that has already been taken. My right hon. Friend will consider whether any further action is necessary in the light of any report the Committee of Public Accounts may make to the House.
§ Mr. FatchettIs the Minister satisfied with his complacent response? The National Audit Office report shows that this Government's record on university education has led to a reduction in staffing ratios and has affected the balance of staff within departments and 132 between departments. The reality of this Government's record is that it has damaged the fabric of higher education. We need action, not words, from the Minister.
§ Mr. BrookeIt is perfectly true that there has been a reduction in funding for higher education, particularly in the universities, from 1981 onwards, but the staff-student ratio that has emerged is still consistent with maintaining quality within the system.
§ Mr. BeithHow will the gaps be filled at the senior levels with the highly qualified and able teachers and researchers that are identified in this report when there is a drift away from such posts by university teachers, who are demoralised by the present pay levels?
§ Mr. BrookeThe hon. Gentleman will find that there is greater concern within the university system about the age profile lower down the system rather than at the top.
§ Mr. RadiceIs not the message of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report that cuts have a malign and perverse effect that is highly damaging to our nation's future? Why does the autumn statement outline further cuts for higher education over the next three years?
§ Mr. BrookeIt is a consistent part of public expenditure policy on higher education that efficiency savings of approximately 1 per cent. per annum will continue to be looked for.