§ Amendments made: No. 30, in page 5, line 8, leave out ''seven' and insert 'five'.
No. 31, in page 5, line 16, leave out subsection (5).—[Mr. Kaufman.]
Question proposed, That the clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill.
§ Mr. BerminghamWe intend to oppose clause 3, as amended. It seems ludicrous to extend the right to vote in European elections to people resident in non-European countries. It is absurd to argue that people resident in, say, south America have an interest in European elections. I make no secret of my own view of the usefulness, or lack of it, of the European Parliament, but, leaving aside one's personal views on the whole European question, if we are 251 to be part of Europe the European Parliament should be elected by people resident within the European area. For that reason, I ask the Committee to oppose the clause.
Question put, That the clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill:—
§ The Committee divided: Ayes 233, Noes 169.
253| Division No. 83] | [10.29 pm |
| AYES | |
| Atkins, Rt Hon Sir H. | Hawkins, C. (High Peak) |
| Atkins, Robert (South Ribble) | Hayes, J. |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Vall'y) | Hayhoe, Barney |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Hayward, Robert |
| Beaumont-Dark, Anthony | Heddle, John |
| Beith, A. J. | Henderson, Barry |
| Bendall, Vivian | Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael |
| Best, Keith | Hickmet, Richard |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Hicks, Robert |
| Bottomley, Peter | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Hind, Kenneth |
| Brittan, Rt Hon Leon | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Brooke, Hon Peter | Holland, Sir Philip (Gedling) |
| Bruce, Malcolm | Holt, Richard |
| Bruinvels, Peter | Hordern, Peter |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon A. | Howard, Michael |
| Butcher, John | Howarth, Gerald (Cannock) |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montg'y) | Howells, Geraint |
| Carlisle, Rt Hon M. (W'ton S) | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) |
| Cartwright, John | Jackson, Robert |
| Cash, William | Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Jones, Robert (W Herts) |
| Clegg, Sir Walter | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Conway, Derek | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith |
| Coombs, Simon | Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine |
| Cope, John | Key, Robert |
| Crouch, David | Kirkwood, Archy |
| Dicks, Terry | Knight, Gregory (Derby N) |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Knowles, Michael |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord J. | Knox, David |
| Durant, Tony | Lang, Ian |
| Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke) | Latham, Michael |
| Emery, Sir Peter | Lawler, Geoffrey |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Farr, Sir John | Lee, John (Pendle) |
| Favell, Anthony | Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) |
| Fookes, Miss Janet | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Forman, Nigel | Lightbown, David |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Lilley, Peter |
| Forth, Eric | Lord, Michael |
| Fox, Marcus | Luce, Richard |
| Franks, Cecil | McCrindle, Robert |
| Fraser, Peter (Angus East) | McCurley, Mrs Anna |
| Freeman, Roger | Macfarlane, Neil |
| Gale, Roger | MacKay, Andrew (Berkshire) |
| Galley, Roy | MacKay, John (Argyll & Bute) |
| Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Maclean, David John |
| Gardner, Sir Edward (Fylde) | McNair-Wilson, P. (New F'st) |
| Garel-Jones, Tristan | McQuarrie, Albert |
| Glyn, Dr Alan | Madel, David |
| Goodlad, Alastair | Major, John |
| Gower, Sir Raymond | Malins, Humfrey |
| Greenway, Harry | Malone, Gerald |
| Gregory, Conal | Marland, Paul |
| Griffiths, E. (B'y St Edm'ds) | Marlow, Antony |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsm'th N) | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) |
| Ground, Patrick | Mates, Michael |
| Grylls, Michael | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom) | Mayhew, Sir Patrick |
| Hancock, Mr. Michael | Meadowcroft, Michael |
| Hannam, John | Mellor, David |
| Hargreaves, Kenneth | Merchant, Piers |
| Harris, David | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Miller, Hal (B'grove) |
| Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael | Mills, Iain (Meriden) |
| Mills, Sir Peter (West Devon) | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Soames, Hon Nicholas |
| Moate, Roger | Speed, Keith |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Spence, John |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Spencer, Derek |
| Moynihan, Hon C. | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) |
| Mudd, David | Squire, Robin |
| Neale, Gerrard | Stanley, John |
| Needham, Richard | Steen, Anthony |
| Nelson, Anthony | Stern, Michael |
| Newton, Tony | Stevens, Lewis (Nuneaton) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) |
| Norris, Steven | Stewart, Andrew (Sherwood) |
| Onslow, Cranley | Stewart, Ian (N Hertf'dshire) |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs S. | Sumberg, David |
| Page, Richard (Herts SW) | Taylor, John (Solihull) |
| Patten, Christopher (Bath) | Taylor, Teddy (S'end E) |
| Patten, John (Oxford) | Thomas, Rt Hon Peter |
| Pawsey, James | Thompson, Donald (Calder V) |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Thompson, Patrick (N'ich N) |
| Percival, Rt Hon Sir Ian | Thorne, Neil (Ilford S) |
| Pollock, Alexander | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Portillo, Michael | Thurnham, Peter |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Powley, John | Tracey, Richard |
| Price, Sir David | Trippier, David |
| Proctor, K. Harvey | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Raffan, Keith | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Rees, Rt Hon Peter (Dover) | Waddington, David |
| Renton, Tim | Waldegrave, Hon William |
| Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Walker, Bill (T'side N) |
| Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas | Wallace, James |
| Rifkind, Malcolm | Waller, Gary |
| Robinson, Mark (N'port W) | Wardle, C. (Bexhill) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion | Watson, John |
| Rossi, Sir Hugh | Watts, John |
| Rost, Peter | Wells, Sir John (Maidstone) |
| Rowe, Andrew | Wheeler, John |
| Rumbold, Mrs Angela | Whitfield, John |
| Ryder, Richard | Wilkinson, John |
| Sainsbury, Hon Timothy | Wolfson, Mark |
| St. John-Stevas, Rt Hon N. | Wood, Timothy |
| Sayeed, Jonathan | Woodcock, Michael |
| Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | Yeo, Tim |
| Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Shelton, William (Streatham) | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | |
| Shersby, Michael | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Silvester, Fred | Mr. Peter Lloyd and |
| Sims, Roger | Mr. Michael Neubert. |
| Skeet, T. H. H. | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Allen (Paisley N) | Clwyd, Mrs Ann |
| Anderson, Donald | Cocks, Rt Hon M. (Bristol S.) |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Cohen, Harry |
| Ashton, Joe | Concannon, Rt Hon J. D. |
| Atkinson, N. (Tottenham) | Cook, Frank (Stockton North) |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Cook, Robin F. (Livingston) |
| Barnett, Guy | Corbyn, Jeremy |
| Barron, Kevin | Cowans, Harry |
| Beckett, Mrs Margaret | Craigen, J. M. |
| Beggs, Roy | Crowther, Stan |
| Bell, Stuart | Cunliffe, Lawrence |
| Benn, Tony | Cunningham, Dr John |
| Bennett, A. (Dent'n & Red'sh) | Dalyell, Tam |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Davies, Ronald (Caerphilly) |
| Blair, Anthony | Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'ge H'l) |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Deakins, Eric |
| Boyes, Roland | Dewar, Donald |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Dixon, Donald |
| Brown, Gordon (D'f'mline E) | Dobson, Frank |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Dormand, Jack |
| Callaghan, Jim (Heyw'd & M) | Douglas, Dick |
| Campbell, Ian | Dubs, Alfred |
| Canavan, Dennis | Duffy, A. E. P. |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Dunwoody, Hon Mrs G. |
| Clark, Dr David (S Shields) | Eadie, Alex |
| Clarke, Thomas | Eastham, Ken |
| Evans, John (St. Helens N) | Molyneaux, Rt Hon James |
| Fatchett, Derek | Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe) |
| Faulds, Andrew | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) |
| Field, Frank (Birkenhead) | Nellist, David |
| Fisher, Mark | O'Brien, William |
| Flannery, Martin | O'Neill, Martin |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Patchett, Terry |
| Forrester, John | Pendry, Tom |
| Forsythe, Clifford (S Antrim) | Pike, Peter |
| Foster, Derek | Powell, Rt Hon J. E. (S Down) |
| Foulkes, George | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Fraser, J. (Norwood) | Prescott, John |
| George, Bruce | Radice, Giles |
| Godman, Dr Norman | Randall, Stuart |
| Golding, John | Redmond, M. |
| Gould, Bryan | Rees, Rt Hon M. (Leeds S) |
| Gourlay, Harry | Richardson, Ms Jo |
| Hamilton, James (M'well N) | Roberts, Allan (Bootle) |
| Harrison, Rt Hon Walter | Roberts, Ernest (Hackney N) |
| Haynes, Frank | Robertson, George |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Robinson, G. (Coventry NW) |
| Hogg N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) | Rogers, Allan |
| Home Robertson, John | Ross, Wm. (Londonderry) |
| Hoyle, Douglas | Rowlands, Ted |
| Hoyle, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport East) | Sheerman, Barry |
| Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S) | Sheldon, Rt Hon R. |
| Janner, Hon Greville | Short, Ms Clare (Ladywood) |
| John, Brynmor | Short, Mrs R.(W'hampt'n NE) |
| Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) | Silkin, Rt Hon J. |
| Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | Skinner, Dennis |
| Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'bury) |
| Lambie, David | Smith, Rt Hon J. (M'kl'ds E) |
| Lamond, James | Smyth, Rev W. M. (Belfast S) |
| Leadbitter, Ted | Snape, Peter |
| Leighton, Ronald | Soley, Clive |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Lewis. Terence (Worsley) | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Litherland, Robert | Stott, Roger |
| Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) | Strang, Gavin |
| Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Straw, Jack |
| Loyden, Edward | Taylor, Rt Hon John David |
| McCartney, Hugh | Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth) |
| McCusker, Harold | Thompson, J. (Wansbeck) |
| McDonald, Dr Oonagh | Thorne, Stan (Preston) |
| McKay, Allen (Penistone) | Tinn, James |
| McKelvey, William | Walker, Cecil (Belfast N) |
| Mackenzie, Rt Hon Gregor | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| McNamara, Kevin | Wareing, Robert |
| McTaggart, Robert | Welsh, Michael |
| Madden, Max | White, James |
| Maginnis, Ken | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Marek, Dr John | Williams, Rt Hon A. |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Wilson, Gordon |
| Mason, Rt Hon Roy | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Maxton, John | |
| Maynard, Miss Joan | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Michie, William | Mr. John McWilliam and |
| Mikardo, Ian | Mr. Robin Corbett. |
| Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
Clause 3, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 4 ordered to stand part of the Bill.
To report Progress and ask leave to sit again.—[Mr. Brittan.]
Committee report Progress; to sit again tomorrow.