HC Deb 19 December 1985 vol 89 c562
14. Mr. Cockeram

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from interested organisations on European Economic Community proposals to set up a Community-wide outgoers' scheme.

Mr. Gummer

I have received representations on the proposed Community outgoers' scheme from hon. Members, interested organisations, and individual farmers. These have reflected a number of concerns, including the position of tenant farmers and landlords. The proposals are still being discussed at official level and are unlikely to come to the Council of Ministers before January.

Mr. Cockeram

Is my right hon. Friend aware that agriculture accepts the need for an outgoers' scheme for the milk industry, but nevertheless there is a legitimate complaint from the landlord and the tenant, each of whom has invested his resources in developing the industry to its present state?

Mr. Gummer

An outgoers' scheme should recognise that in most cases both the landlord and the tenant have contributed to the ability of the land to produce milk. Therefore, it would be wrong to ignore either side in the outgoers' scheme, and we shall ensure that that does not happen.

Mr. John

Does the right hon. Gentleman recognise that if there is a voluntary outgoers' scheme on all agricultural products, that may lead to the withdrawal of the most efficient farmers in some counties and the perpetuation of high-cost inefficient farmers in others?

Mr. Gummer

The hon. Gentleman is right, and we are concerned about this factor. To achieve our purpose we shall look carefully at the scheme and seek to ensure that it is fair as between countries and farmers and as between tenants and landlords.