HC Deb 09 April 1984 vol 58 cc127-8

Lords amendment: No. 6, in page 4, leave out lines 17 to 21 and insert— (1A) For the purposes of this Act telecommunication apparatus which is situated in the United Kingdom and—

  1. (a) is connected to but not comprised in a telecommunication system; or
  2. (b) is connected to and comprised in a telecommunication system which extends beyond the United Kingdom,
shall be regarded as a telecommunication system and any person who controls the apparatus shall be regarded as running the system.

Mr. Butcher

I beg to move, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

With this it will be convenient to take Lords amendments Nos. 7, 8, 10, 13 to 18, 172 and 252.

Mr. Butcher

These are straightforward amendments, designed to clarify and expand the meaning of what constitutes a telecommunications system and commercial activities connected with telecommunications. They also remove ambiguities from the definition of telecommunications apparatus and the circumstances in which a telecommunications system and apparatus are connected from the purpose of the Bill. I hope that these amendments will help the understanding of what is an important and complex clause.

Mr. Golding

How will these amendments assist our understanding of the clause?

Mr. Butcher

In some cases apparatus may switch without conveying, but apparatus may still need licensing. It would be nonsense if we were not to make that clear. Amendment No. 6 expands the definition of system. Subsection (1A) (a) provides that single items of apparatus that are connected to but not comprised in a telecommunication system are treated as systems and are therefore licensable.

Subsection (1A)(b) provides that apparatus that is connected to and comprised in a telecommunication system that extends beyond the United Kingdom is also licensable.

Amendment No. 7 clarifies the definition of commercial activities connected with telecommunications and so covers the acquisition of apparatus for a client. As the hon. Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme (Mr. Golding) will know, this covers BT.

With that further clarification, I commend these amendments to the House.

Question put and agreed to.

Subsequent Lords amendments agreed to.

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