HC Deb 18 January 1982 vol 16 cc123-8

Queen's recommendation having been signified—Motion made and Question proposed That, for the purposes of any Act of the present Session to abolish supplementary rates and supplementary precepts, to require rates and precepts to be made or issued for complete financial years, to make further provision with respect to the borrowing powers of local authorities, to amend the provisions for relating to adjustments of the distribution of block grant and to make new provision for auditing the accounts of local authorities and other public bodies, it is expedient to authorize—

  1. (a) the payment out of moneys provided by Parliament of any sums required by the Secretary of State for—
    1. (i) making, during an initial period, payments in respect of the expenses of the Audit Commission established by that Act and for providing it with working capital;
    2. (ii) paying fees to that Commission in respect of services provided for government departments;
  2. (b) payments into and out of the National Loans Fund and the Consolidated Fund in respect of loans by the Secretary of State to that Commission and Treasury guarantees in respect of loans to that Commission by persons other than the Secretary of State; and
  3. (c) any increase in the sums payable out of moneys provided by Parliament under any other Act which is attributable to expenditure by local authorities in respect of borrowing or of services provided by that Commission.—[Mr. Brooke.]

The House divided: Ayes 295, Noes 247.

Division No. 39] [10.29 pm
AYES
Adley, Robert Atkinson, David (B'm'th, E)
Aitken, Jonathan Baker, Nicholas (N Dorset)
Alexander, Richard Bell, Sir Ronald
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Bendall, Vivian
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Benyon, Thomas (A'don)
Ancram, Michael Best, Keith
Arnold, Tom Bevan, David Gilroy
Aspinwall, Jack Biffen, Rt Hon John
Atkins, Rt Hon H. (S'thorne) Biggs-Davison, Sir John
Atkins, Robert (Preston N) Blackburn, John
Blaker, Peter
Body, Richard
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Gray, Hamish
Bottomley, Peter (W'wich W) Greenway, Harry
Bowden, Andrew Grieve, Percy
Boyson, Dr Rhodes Griffiths, E. (B'ySt. Edm'ds)
Braine, Sir Bernard Griffiths, Peter Portsm'th N)
Bright, Graham Grist, Ian
Brinton, Tim Grylls, Michael
Brittan, Rt. Hon. Leon Gummer, John Selwyn
Brooke, Hon Peter Hamilton, Hon A.
Brotherton, Michael Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
Brown, Michael (Brigg&Sc'n) Hampson, Dr Keith
Browne, John (Winchester) Hannam, John
Bruce-Gardyne, John Haselhurst, Alan
Bryan, Sir Paul Hastings, Stephen
Buck, Antony Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael
Budgen, Nick Hawkins, Paul
Bulmer, Esmond Hawksley, Warren
Burden, Sir Frederick Hayhoe, Barney
Butcher, John Heath, Rt Hon Edward
Butler, Hon Adam Heddle, John
Cadbury, Jocelyn Henderson, Barry
Carlisle, John (Luton West) Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Hicks, Robert
Carlisle, Rt Hon M. (R'c'n) Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Chalker, Mrs. Lynda Hill, James
Channon, Rt. Hon. Paul Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Chapman, Sydney Hooson, Tom
Churchill, W.S. Hordern, Peter
Clark, Hon A. (Plym'th, S'n) Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Howell, Rt Hon D. (G'ldf'd)
Clegg, Sir Walter Howell, Ralph (N Norfolk)
Cockeram, Eric Hunt, David (Wirral)
Colvin, Michael Irving, Charles (Cheltenham)
Cope, John Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick
Cormack, Patrick Jessel, Toby
Corrie, John Johnson Smith, Geoffrey
Costain, Sir Albert Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Cranborne, Viscount Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith
Critchley, Julian Kaberry, Sir Donald
Crouch, David Kershaw, Sir Anthony
Dean, Paul (North Somerset) Kimball, Sir Marcus
Dickens, Geoffrey King, Rt Hon Tom
Dorrell, Stephen Knox, David
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord J. Lament, Norman
Dover, Denshore Lang, Ian
du Cann, Rt Hon Edward Langford-Holt, Sir John
Dunn, Robert (Dartford) Lawrence, Ivan
Durant, Tony Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel
Dykes, Hugh Lee, John
Eden, Rt Hon Sir John Le Marchant, Spencer
Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke) Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Eggar, Tim Lester, Jim (Beeston)
Elliott, Sir William Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)
Emery, Peter Lloyd, Ian (Havant & W'loo)
Eyre, Reginald Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Fairbairn, Nicholas Loveridge, John
Fairgrieve, Sir Russell Lyell, Nicholas
Faith, Mrs Sheila McCrindle, Robert
Farr, John Macfarlane, Neil
Fell, Anthony MacKay, John (Argyll)
Fenner, Mrs Peggy Macmillan, Rt Hon M.
Finsberg, Geoffrey McNair-Wilson, M. (N'bury)
Fisher, Sir Nigel McNair-Wilson, P. (New F'st)
Fletcher, A. (Ed'nb'gh N) McQuarrie, Albert
Fletcher-Cooke, Sir Charles Madel, David
Fookes, Miss Janet Major, John
Forman, Nigel Marland, Paul
Fowler, Rt Hon Norman Marlow, Antony
Fox, Marcus Marshall, Michael (Arundel)
Fraser, Peter (South Angus) Marten, Rt Hon Neil
Fry, Peter Mates, Michael
Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) Maude, Rt Hon Sir Angus
Garel-Jones, Tristan Mawby, Ray
Glyn, Dr Alan Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Goodhart, Sir Philip Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Goodhew, Victor Mayhew, Patrick
Goodlad, Alastair Mellor, David
Gorst, John Meyer, Sir Anthony
Gow, Ian Miller, Hal (B'grove)
Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) Mills, Iain (Meriden)
Mills, Peter (West Devon) Silvester, Fred
Miscampbell, Norman Sims, Roger
Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) Skeet, T. H. H.
Moate, Roger Smith, Dudley
Monro, Sir Hector Speed, Keith
Montgomery, Fergus Speller, Tony
Moore, John Spence, John
Morgan, Geraint Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Morris, M. (N'hampton S) Sproat, Iain
Morrison, Hon C. (Devizes) Squire, Robin
Morrison, Hon P. (Chester) Stainton, Keith
Mudd, David Stanbrook, Ivor
Murphy, Christopher Stanley, John
Myles, David Steen, Anthony
Neale, Gerrard Stevens, Martin
Needham, Richard Stewart, A. (E Renfrewshire)
Nelson, Anthony Stewart, Ian (Hitchin)
Neubert, Michael Stokes, John
Newton, Tony Stradling Thomas, J.
Nott, Rt Hon John Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Onslow, Cranley Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs S. Temple-Morris, Peter
Osborn, John Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs M.
Page, John (Harrow, West) Thompson, Donald
Page, Richard (SW Herts) Thorne, Neil (Ilford South)
Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil Thornton, Malcolm
Parris, Matthew Townend, John (Bridlington)
Patten, Christopher (Bath) Townsend, Cyril D, (B'heath)
Patten, John (Oxford) Trippier, David
Pattie, Geoffrey Trotter, Neville
Pawsey, James Van Straubenzee, Sir W.
Peyton, Rt Hon John Vaughan, Dr Gerard
Pink, R. Bonner Viggers, Peter
Pollock, Alexander Waddington, David
Porter, Barry Wakeham, John
Prentice, Rt Hon Reg Waldegrave, Hon William
Price, Sir David (Eastleigh) Walker, Rt Hon P. (W'cester)
Proctor, K. Harvey Waller, Gary
Pym, Rt Hon Francis Walters, Dennis
Raison, Timothy Ward, John
Rathbone, Tim Warren, Kenneth
Rees, Peter (Dover and Deal) Watson, John
Rhodes James, Robert Wells, Bowen
Ridley, Hon Nicholas Wells, John (Maidstone)
Ridsdale, Sir Julian Whitelaw, Rt Hon William
Rifkind, Malcolm Whitney, Raymond
Roberts, M. (Cardiff NW) Wickenden, Keith
Roberts, Wyn (Conway) Wiggin, Jerry
Rossi, Hugh Wilkinson, John
Rost, Peter Williams, D. (Montgomery)
Royle, Sir Anthony Winterton, Nicholas
Sainsbury, Hon Timothy Wolfson, Mark
St. John-Stevas, Rt Hon N. Young, Sir George (Acton)
Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) Younger, Rt Hon George
Shaw, Michael (Scarborough)
Shelton, William (Streatham) Tellers for the Ayes:
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) Mr. Anthony Berry and
Shepherd, Richard Mr. Carol Mather.
Shersby, Michael
NOES
Abse, Leo Brown, Hugh D. (Provan)
Adams, Allen Brown, R.C. (N'castle W)
Allaun, Frank Brown, Ronald W. (H'ckn'y S)
Alton, David Brown, Ron (E'burgh, Leith)
Anderson, Donald Buchan, Norman
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Callaghan, Rt Hon J.
Ashley, Rt Hon Jack Callaghan, Jim (Midd't'n & P)
Ashton, Joe Campbell, Ian
Atkinson, N. (H'gey) Campbell-Savours, Dale
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Canavan, Dennis
Beith, A. J. Cant, R. B.
Bennett, Andrew (St'kp't N) Carmichael, Neil
Bidwell, Sydney Carter-Jones, Lewis
Booth, Rt Hon Albert Cartwright, John
Boothroyd, Miss Betty Cocks, Rt Hon M. (B'stol S)
Bottomley, Rt Hon A. (M'b'ro) Cohen, Stanley
Bradley, Tom Coleman, Donald
Bray, Dr Jeremy Conlan, Bernard
Brocklebank-Fowler, C. Cowans, Harry
Cox, T. (W'dsw'th, Toot'g) Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Craigen, J.M. (G'gow, M'hill) Kerr, Russell
Crawshaw, Richard Kilroy-Silk, Robert
Crowther, Stan Kinnock, Neil
Cunliffe, Lawrence Lambie, David
Cunningham, Dr J. (W'h'n) Lamborn, Harry
Dalyell, Tam Lamond, James
Davidson, Arthur Leadbitter, Ted
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (L'lli) Leighton, Ronald
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Lewis, Arthur (N'ham NW)
Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Davis, T. (B'ham, Stechf'd) Litherland, Robert
Deakins, Eric Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) Lyons, Edward (Bradf'd W)
Dewar, Donald Mabon, Rt Hon Dr J. Dickson
Dixon, Donald McCartney, Hugh
Dobson, Frank McDonald, Dr Oonagh
Dormand, Jack McElhone, Frank
Douglas, Dick McKelvey, William
Douglas-Mann, Bruce MacKenzie, Rt Hon Gregor
Dunlop, John McMahon, Andrew
Dunnett, Jack McNally, Thomas
Dunwoody, Hon Mrs G. McNamara, Kevin
Eadie, Alex McTaggart, Robert
Eastham, Ken McWilliam, John
Ellis, R. (NED'bysh're) Magee, Bryan
Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Marshall, D (G'gowS'ton)
English, Michael Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole)
Ennals, Rt Hon David Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Evans, Ioan (Aberdare) Martin, M (G'gowS'burn}
Evans, John (Newton) Mason, Rt Hon Roy
Faulds, Andrew Maxton, John
Field, Frank Maynard, Miss Joan
Fitch, Alan Meacher, Michael
Flannery, Martin Mellish, Rt Hon Robert
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Mikardo, Ian
Foot, Rt Hon Michael Millan, Rt Hon Bruce
Ford, Ben Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride)
Forrester, John Mitchell, Austin(Grimsby)
Foster, Derek Mitchell, R.C. (Soton Itchen)
Foulkes, George Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe)
Fraser, J. (Lamb'th, N'w'd) Morris, Rt Hon C. (O'shaw)
Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald Morton, George
Freud, Clement Moyle, Rt Hon Roland
Garrett, John (Norwich S) Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick
Garrett, W.E. (Wallsend) Newens, Stanley
George, Bruce Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John Ogden, Eric
Ginsburg, David O'Halloran, Michael
Golding, John O'Neill, Martin
Graham, Ted Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Grant, George (Morpeth) Owen, Rt Hon Dr David
Grant, John (Islington C) Palmer, Arthur
Grimond, Rt Hon J. Park, George
Hamilton, James (Bothwell) Pavitt, Laurie
Hamilton, W.W. (C'tral Fife) Pendry, Tom
Harrison, Rt Hon Walter Penhaligon, David
Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy Pitt, William Henry
Healey, Rt Hon Denis Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)
Heffer, Eric S. Prescott, John
Hogg, N. (E Dunb't'nshire) Price, C. (Lewisham W)
Holland, S.(L'b'th, Vauxh'll) Race, Reg
Home Robertson, John Radice, Giles
Homewood, William Rees, Rt Hon M (Leeds S)
Hooley, Frank Richardson, Jo
Horam, John Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Howells, Geraint Roberts, Allan (Bootle)
Hoyle, Douglas Roberts, Ernest (Hackney N)
Huckfield, Les Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock)
Hughes, Mark (Durham) Robertson, George
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Robinson, G. (Coventry NW)
Hughes, Roy (Newport) Rodgers, Rt Hon William
Janner, Hon Greville Rooker, J.W.
Jay, Rt Hon Douglas Roper, John
John, Brynmor Ross, Ernest (Dundee West)
Johnson, James (Hull West) Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight)
Johnson, Walter (Derby S) Rowlands, Ted
Jones, Rt Hon Alec (Rh'dda) Ryman, John
Jones, Barry (East Flint) Sandelson, Neville
Jones, Dan (Burnley) Sever, John
Sheerman, Barry Steel, Rt Hon David
Sheldon, Rt Hon R. Stoddart, David
Shore, Rt Hon Peter Stott, Roger
Short, Mrs Renee Strang, Gavin
Silkin, Rt Hon J. (Deptford) Straw, Jack
Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) Summerskil, Hon Dr Shirley
Silverman, Julius Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W)
Skinner, Dennis Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth)
Smith, Rt Hon J. (N Lanark) Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E)
Snape, Peter Thomas, Dr R. (Carmarthen)
Soley, Clive Thorne, Stan (Preston South)
Spearing, Nigel Tilley, John
Spriggs, Leslie Tinn, James
Stallard, A. W. Torney, Tom
Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
Wainwright, E. (Dearne V) Williams, Rt Hon A. (S'sea W)
Wainwright, R. (Colne V) Wilson, Rt Hon Sir H. (H'ton)
Walker, Rt Hon H. (D'caster) Winnick, David
Watkins, David Woodall, Alec
Wellbeloved, James Woolmer, Kenneth
Welsh, Michael Wrigglesworth, Ian
White, Frank R. Wright, Sheila
White, J. (G'gow Pollok)
Whitehead, Phillip Tellers for the Noes:
Whitlock, William Mr. Allen McKay and
Wigley, Dafydd Mr. Frank Haines.

Question accordingly agreed to.