§ 4. Mr. Haynesasked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much was the grant for the publication of "CHC News" during 1981–82; and how much the grant for 1982–83 will be.
17. Mr. Park askedthe Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement on the proposed change in the funding of "CHC News" for 1982–83.
§ 19. Mr. Dan Jonesasked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultations he has had with community health councils about the future of "CHC News".
§ Mr. Geoffrey FinsbergThe estimated cost of central funding for "CHC News" and the associated information service this year is £74,000. In our view, these services should be paid for by community health councils 844 themselves, and the Department is discussing with representatives of their association how the transition from central to subscription funding might best be made.
§ Mr. HaynesIs not the Minister ashamed to give such a reply, since that publication is the official organ of community health councils and communicates with the people whom it represents? It seems that the Government want the publication to go. The Minister should be ashamed of himself. Are the Minister and the Government expecting community health councils to meet the cost, because at the moment those councils are providing a valuable service——
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. The hon. Gentleman has asked his question.
§ Mr. FinsbergI could answer the hon. Gentleman by saying: "No, we are not ashamed". I shall expand on that slightly. The function of a community health council is to look after the interests of the patients in its area. We believe that if the councils want to produce such a publication, they should fund it and not use Government funding.
§ Mr. ParkDoes the Minister want more or fewer people to take an interest in the National Health Service?
§ Mr. HaynesThat is what they are after.
§ Mr. ParkWould it not be more accurate to say that the real reason for the change is that "CHC News" has on occasion dared to be critical of the Government?
§ Mr. FinsbergI seem to remember "CHC News" being critical of more than one Government. My wife was a member of a community health council—[Interruption]. That factor did not enter into the mind of the Government when considering funding. It is one of our major principles that the money should be spent by community health councils if they wish to continue that publication.
§ Mr. CrouchIs my hon. Friend aware that, other than being a Member of Parliament, I have an opportunity to see the work of a community health councils without wearing a political hat? I value that work very much. Does my hon. Friend think that it would be worth reconsidering keeping that valuable publication?
§ Mr. FinsbergNo, Sir, I do not. There is nothing in the decision to show that the Government believe that community health councils are not doing a good job. We believe that they are. However, we do not believe that a national publication is necessarily the right thing to be funded by the Government.
§ Mr. Terry DavisDoes the Minister accept that "CHC News" helps members of community health councils to do a better job? Does it make good economic sense to issue a circular that suggests that the number of members of community health councils should be reduced and at the same time insists that "CHC News" should be funded by subscriptions from that smaller number of members?
§ Mr. FinsbergThe size of community health councils is the subject of a later question. If the publication is regarded by community health councils as a valuable piece of literature, I do not believe that the decision that they rather than the Government should be asked to fund it can be faulted.
§ Mr. LathamWhatever the future funding of that publication, will it be possible for the next edition to 845 contain details of how my hon. Friend proposes to ensure that Leicestershire's 800,000 people have more than one community health council?
§ Mr. FinsbergI shall be delighted to look into that point, which is not related to this question, but which shows the real value of a community health council at local level.