HC Deb 23 March 1981 vol 1 cc677-80

`—(1)Where under section 5(1) of the 1966 Act the Secreatry of State reduces an element of rate support grant payable to a local authority, or where the authority anticipates such a reduction thereunder, the authority shall neither wholly nor partially offset the reduction (or anticipated reduction) with sums advanced from their loans fund:

Provided that such offsetting may nevertheless be permitted by the Secretary of State in any case on such terms and conditions as he considers appropriate.

(2) Where by virtue of paragraph 2(a) of Part II of Schedule 1 to the 1966 Act the amount of the resources element payable to a local authority is less, or where the authority anticipates that it will thereby be less, than the product of the regional, general or district rate (as the case may be) and the difference between the rate products mentioned in paragraphs 1 of that Part, the authority shall neither wholly nor partially offset such effect (or anticipated effect) of the operation of the said paragraph 2(a) with sums advanced from their loans fund; but the proviso to subsection (1) above shall apply for the purposes of this subsection as that proviso applies for the purposes of that subsection.

(3) If the Secretary of State is of the opinion that subsection (1) or (2) above, or any term or condition imposed under the proviso thereto, has been contravened the local authority shall, on such opinion being intimated to them, reimburse their loans fund forthwith or within such time as the Secretary of State may allow.

(4) If an amount was, on or after 23rd March 1981 but before the coming into force of this section, advanced from the loans fund of a local authority and the Secretary of State is of the opinion that the advance was for a purpose such that there would have been a contravention of subsection (1) or (2) above had those subsections and sections 13, 14 and 15 of this Act been in force, the local authority shall, on such opinion being intimated to them, reimburse their loans fund forthwith or within such time as the Secretary of State may allow.

(5) In the foregoing provisions of this section, "loans fund" means the loan fund established under Schedule 3 to the 1975 Act.'.— [Mr. Younger.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 180, Noes 139.

Div. No 111] [6.33 pm
AYES
Alexander, Richard Greenway, Harry
Ancram, Michael Griffiths, Peter Portsm 'th N)
Atkins, Robert (PrestonN) Grist, Ian
Baker, Nicholas (N Dorset) Grylls, Michael
Beaumont-Dark, Anthony Gummer, JohnSelwyn
Bendall, Vivian Hamilton, Michael(Salisbury)
Benyon, Thomas (A 'don) Hannam, John
Berry, Hon Anthon y Haselhurst, Alan
Best, Keith Hawkins, Paul
Bevan, DavidGilroy Hawksley, Warren
Biggs-Davison, John Hayhoe, Barney
Blackburn, John Henderson, Barry
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Boscawen, Hon Robert Hill, James
Braine, Sir Bernard Hordern, Peter
Bright, Graham Howell, Ralph (NNorfolk)
Brinton, Tim Hunt, John (Ravensbourne)
Brotherton, Michael Hurd, Hon Douglas
Brown, Michael (Brigg&Sc'n) Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Buchanan-Smith, Alick Kaberry, Sir Donald
Buck, Antony Kershaw, Anthony
Budgen, Nick King, Rt Hon Tom
Burden, Sir Frederick Knight, MrsJill
Cadbury, Jocelyn Knox, David
Carlisle, John (Luton West) Lang, Ian
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Lawrence, Ivan
Chalker, Mrs. Lynda Lee, John
Chapman, Sydney LeMarchant, Spencer
Clark, Hon A. (Plym'th, S'n) Lester Jim (Beeston)
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)
Clark, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Cockeram, Eric Loveridge, John
Colvin, Michael Lyell, Nicholas
Cope, John MacGregor, John
Corrie, John MacKay, John(Argyll)
Costain, Sir Albert McNair-Wilson, M(N'bury)
Cranborne, Viscount McNair-Wilson, P. (NewF'st)
Crouch, David McQuarrie, Albert
Dickens, Geoffrey Madel, David
Douglas-Hamilton, LordJ. Major, John
Dover, Denshore Marlow, Tony
Dunn, Robert (Dartford) Mart en, Neil(Banbury)
Dykes, Hugh Maude, Rt Hon Sir Angus
Fairgrieve, Russell Mawby, Ray
Faith, MrsSheila Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Fenner, Mrs Peggy Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Fletcher, A. (Ed'nb'ghN) Meyer, Sir Anthon y
Fletcher-Cooke, Sir Charles Miller, Hal(B'grove)
Fookes, Miss Janet Mills, Iain(Meriden)
Fowler, Rt Hon Norman Mills, Peter (West Devon)
Fraser, Peter (South Angus) Moate, Roger
Garel-Jones, Tristan Monro, Hector
Goodlad, Alastair Montgomery, Fergus
Gorst, John Morgan, Geraint
Gow, Ian Mudd, David
Gray, Hamish Myles, David
Needham, Richard Sproat, Iain
Nelson, Anthony Squire, Robin
Neubert, Michael Stainton, Keith
Newton, Tony Stanbrook, Ivor
Normanton, Tom Steen, Anthony
Page, Rt Hon Sir G. (Crosby) Stevens, Martin
Page, Richard (SWHert s) Stewart, A. (ERenfrewshire)
Parris, Matthew Stradling Thomas, J.
Patten, Christopher(Bath) Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Pattie, Geoffrey Temple-Morris, Peter
Percival, Sir Ian Thomas, Rt Hon Peter
Pollock, Alexander Thompson, Donald
Prentice, Rt Hon Reg Thorne, Neil (IlfordSouth)
Prior, Rt Hon James Thornton, Malcolm
Proctor, K. Harvey Townend, John (Bridlington)
Pym, Rt Hon Francis Townsend, CyrilD, (B'heath)
Raison, Timothy Trippier, David
Rathbone, Tim Viggers, Peter
Rees-Davies, W. R. Waddington, David
Renton, Tim Wakeham, John
Rhodes James, Robert Walker, B. (Perth)
RhysWilliams, Sir Brandon Waller, Gary
Ridley, Hon Nicholas Ward, John
Rifkind, Malcolm Warren, Kenneth
Robert s, M. (Cardiff NW) Watson, John
Rossi, Hugh Wells, John(Maidstone)
Rost, Peter Wells, Bowen
Royle, Sir Anthony Wheeler, John
Sainsbury, Hon Timothy Wickenden, Keith
Scott, Nicholas Wolfson, Mark
Shepherd, Colin(Hereford) Young, Sir George (Acton)
Skeet, T. H. H. Younger, Rt Hon George
Speller, Tony
Spence, John Tellers for the Ayes:
Spicer, Jim (WestDorset) Mr. Carol Mather and
Spicer, Michael (SWorcs) Mr. Peter Brooke.
NOES
Adams, Allen Eastham, Ken
Alton, David Evans, Ioan (Aberdare)
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Evans, John (Newton)
Ashton, Joe Field, Frank
Atkinson, N.(H'gey,) Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)
Bagier, GordonA, T. Foot, Rt Hon Michael
Booth, Rt Hon Albert Ford, Ben
Boothroyd, MissBetty Foster, Derek
Bradley, Tom Foulkes, George
Bray, Dr Jeremy Freud, Clement
Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) Grant, George(Morpeth)
Brown, Ron (E'burgh, Leith) Grant, John (Islington C)
Callaghan, Jim (Midd't'n & P) Grimond, Rt Hon J.
Campbell, Ian Hamilton, W. W. (C'tral Fife)
Campbell-Savours, Dale Hardy, Peter
Canavan, Dennis Harrison, Rt Hon Walter
Carmichael, Neil Haynes, Frank
Clark, Dr David (S Shields) Hogg, N. (EDunb't'nshire)
Cocks, Rt Hon M. (B'stol S) HomeRobertson, John
Coleman, Donald Hooley, Frank
Concannon, Rt Hon J. D. Howell, Rt Hon D.
Cook, Robin F. Huckfield, Les
Cowans, Harry Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Cox, T. (W'dsw'th, Toot'g) Janner, Hon Greville
Craigen, J. M. Jay, Rt Hon Douglas
Crawshaw, Richard John, Brynmor
Cryer, Bob Johnston, Russell(Inverness)
Cunliffe, Lawrence Jones, Barry (East Flint)
Cunningham, G. (Islington S) Lambie, David
Dalyell, Tam Lamond, James
Davis, T. (B' ham, Stechf' d) Leadbitter, Ted
Deakins, Eric Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) Litherland, Robert
Dempsey, James Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Dewar, Donald Lyons, Edward (Bradf' dW)
Dixon, Donald Mabon, Rt Hon Dr J. Dickson
Dobson, Frank McCartney, Hugh
Dormand, Jack McDonald, Dr Oonagh
Douglas, Dick McGuire, Michael (Ince)
Dubs, Alfred McKay, Allen (Penistone)
Duffy, A. E. P. McKelvey, William
Eadie, Alex MacKenzie, Rt Hon Gregor
Maclennan, Robert Skinner, Dennis
McNamara, Kevin Snape, Peter
McTaggart, Robert Soley, Clive
McWilliam, John Spearing, Nigel
Marshall, D (G 'gowS 'ton) Stallard, AW.
Mason, Rt Hon Roy Stoddart, David
Maxton, John Stott, Roger
Maynard, Miss Joan Strang, Gavin
Millan, Rt Hon Bruce Thomas, Dafydd(Merioneth)
Mitchell, R, C. (Soton Itchen) Thorne, Stan (Preston South)
Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe) Tinn, James
Morris, Rt Hon C. (O'shaw) Varley, Rt Hon Eric G.
Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Wainwright, E. (DearneV)
O'Neill, Martin Wainwright, R. (ColneV)
Orme, Rt Hon Stanley Weetch, Ken
Palmer, Arthur Welsh, Michael
Pavitt, Laurie White, Frank R.
Powell, Raymond (Ogmore) White, J. (G' gow Pollok)
Prescott, John Whitehead, Phillip
Richardson, Jo Wigley, Dafydd
Robert s, Albert (Normanton) Williams, Rt Hon A. (S'sea W)
Robert s, Ernest (Hackney N) Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E)
Roper, John Wilson, William (C'try SE)
Ross, Ernest (Dundee West) Winnick, David
Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) Woolmer, Kenneth
Rowlands, Ted
Sever, John Tellers for the Noes:
Short, Mrs Renée Mr. James Hamilton and
Silkin, Rt Hon J. (Deptford) Mr. George Mort on.
Silverman, Julius

Question accordingly agreed to.

Clause added to the Bill.

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