HC Deb 23 February 1981 vol 999 cc650-1
32. Mr. Soley

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether he has any plans to improve the office facilities available to hon. Members.

Mr. Pym

Not at present, but, as the House knows, there is the Casson scheme for Bridge Street, which could be reconsidered when circumstances are more favourable.

Mr. Soley

Does the Minister agree that conditions are far worse here than in almost any other comparable country? How long will it be before decent facilities are available at least to all those who wish to have them?

Mr. Pym

While what the hon. Gentleman says may be true, I can only say that when I first came to the House the arrangements were a jolly sight worse. I think that it is necessary to point that out. As the hon. Gentleman has complained, it is right to recognise what has been done in the intervening years. It is a continuing process. If a major advance is required, in due course, when times are better, no doubt we can make it. Clearly, one is aware, in one's own capacity, apart from anyone else's, of the shortcomings of this building.

Mr. Fell

Axe we sure that it is desirable to change the character of the House? Is my right hon. Friend aware that that is what has happened over the past few years? By providing all these facilities, are we not already denuding the Palace of Westminster of the Members themselves?

Mr. Pym

Whilst I might in a sense have some personal sympathy with the view expressed by my hon. Friend, I think that it is only the truth to say that over the years the great majority of Members in all parts of the House have required, and almost insisted upon, the kind of expansion, development and improvement of office and other facilities that has taken place. I think that it has been in response to the general wishes of the House that these changes have been made.