HC Deb 17 February 1981 vol 999 cc122-3
4. Mr. Foulkes

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the analysis of "Operation Crusader" has shown a need for the purchase by the Army of new cross country vehicles.

The Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army (Mr. Philip Goodhart)

Analysis of "Exercise Crusader" has not so far indicated a need for new cross country vehicles other than those already in the programme.

Mr. Foulkes

Will the Minister confirm that during the exercise Army vehicles became stuck in the mud and broke down? Will he reconsider his decision and put in an order for Stonefield vehicles, which can adequately replace the Army's clapped-out vehicles?

Mr. Goodhart

I suspect that there has never been a major Army exercise without vehicles being stuck in the mud. I assure the hon. Gentleman that the Army's vehicles stood up well during the exercise.

Mr. Bill Walker

In the event of the Army looking for new and more modern vehicles, will consideration be given to all-British manufactured vehicles, and, if such vehicles are being manufactured in Scotland, will they be given serious consideration?

Mr. Goodhart

I give my hon. Friend that assurance.

Mr. Robert C. Brown

Does not the Under-Secretary realise, without the need for analysis, the urgent requirement which exists for a new generation of British tanks? Will he consider doing away with the nonsense of spending so much on Trident and use the money to procure a new generation of British tanks?

Mr. Goodhart

More tanks are in operation in BAOR at present than when the hon. Gentleman was responsible for the Army. The Army's tank procurement programme is substantial.

Mr. Arthur Davidson

When will the Government publish a detailed report on "Operation Crusader', as, four months ago, the Minister's predecessor said would happen? Does the hon. Gentleman accept that we should then be in a better position to analyse the value and success of the exercise and, incidentally, to demonstrate the need for and the excellence of the Stonefield vehicle for military purposes, as well as its vital importance to the Scottish Economy?

Mr. Goodhart

The analysis will be completed in the near future. The hon. and learned Gentleman and other hon. Members will then be invited to a presentation on the results.