HC Deb 21 July 1980 vol 989 cc194-5

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Question accordingly agreed to.

Mr. Charles R. Morris

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May 1, through you, ask the Leader of the House, in keeping with his responsibilities, to make a statement indicating that he accepts the will of the House on the amendment that the House has just passed?

Mr. St. John-Stevas

As you will appreciate, Mr. Speaker, and as the right hon. Gentleman will appreciate, there are very complex questions involved in pensions. I give the right hon. Gentleman the assurance that we shall consider the position. I shall come to the House with a statement on this matter at the earliest opportunity.

Mr. George Cunningham

Further to the point of order, Mr. Speaker. I take it that what the Leader of the House has just said relates to the amendment which has just been carried and that one alone, on account of the fact that to effect the change for which we have voted would require legislation. I take it that he would not adopt the same attitude to the previous amendments which have been carried and that the Government will accept those amendments without question, and any others that we carry later tonight which do not require legislation, in accordance with the earlier statement of the Leader of the House that all these matters—leaving aside the pension one which needs legislation—are for the House to decide.

Will the Leader of the House say, therefore, that in respect of those other matters which do not call for legislation he will be taking away his motion No. 3 and bringing it forward in a revised form to fit the amendments which have been carried by the House and any others which might be carried later this evening?

Mr. St. John-Stevas

I shall not be moving motion No. 3 tonight. In the light of the decisions that have been taken, it will be necessary for a major Government statement to be made.

That, in the opinion of this House, the following provisions about salaries and pensions of Members of this House should be made:—
(1) The salary payable to Members of each of the descriptions in the first column of the following Table-
(a) in respect of service on and after 13th June 1980 and before 13th June 1981 shall be at the yearly rate specified in relation to that description in the second column of that Table; and
(b) in respect of service on and after 13th June 1981 shall be at the yearly rate specified in relation to that description in the third column of that Table.
TABLE
Description of Member Yearly rate of salary from 13th June 1980 to 12th June 1981 Yearly rate of salary from 13th June 1981
£ £
1. Member not within paragraph 2. 11,750 13,150
2. Member or Officer of this House receiving a salary under the Ministerial and Other Salaries Act 1975 or a pension under section 26 of the Parliamentary and Other Pensions Act 1972. 6,930 7,670
(2) The ordinary salary of every Member in respect of service on and after 13th June 1980 shall be regarded for pension purposes as being at the rate of £ 13,750.
(3) Any Member, except one in whose case no deduction is required to be made under section 3 or 4 of the Act of 1972, shall be credited by way of supplement to his salary payable in respect of service on or after 13th June 1980 and before 13th June 1981, with amounts at the yearly rate of £ 84.
(4) In the light of the continued difficulty in providing fairly for the salaries of Members of this House, the salaries of Members should be regulated to correspond with the amounts of the salary paid to a specified grade in the Public Service.
(5) The annual amount of the pension payable to an honourable Member shall be a sum equal to the aggregate of the following amounts, that is to say-
(a) an amount equal to one-fortieth of the relevant terminal salary multiplied by the number of complete years comprised in his aggregate period of reckonable service as a Member, and
(b) an amount bearing the same proportion to one-fortieth of the relevant terminal salary as the number of days comprised in that period after the end of the last complete year comprised in it bears to three hundred and sixty-five.'.