§
Amendments made: No. 107, in page 39, line 30, leave out
'standard rate poundage and standard'
and insert
'grant-related poundage and grant-related'.
§
No. 109, in page 39, line 34, leave out
'standard rate poundage and the standard'
and insert
'grant-related poundage and grant-related'.—[Mr. King.]
§
Amendment proposed: No. 112, in page 39, line 36, at end insert—
'(3) And the principles on which the standard rate poundage shall be determined shall be such that—
§ receive to the block grant they would have equalled their standard expenditure shall be the same.'.—[Mr. Squire.].
§ Question put, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 239, Noes 289.
371| Division No. 393] | AYES | [9.22 pm |
| Abse, Leo | Fletcher, L. R. (Ilkeston) | Marshall, David (Gl'sgow,Shettles'n) |
| Adams, Allen | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) |
| Allaun, Frank | Fookes, Miss Janet | Marshall, Jim (Leicester South) |
| Alton, David | Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Martin, Michael (Gl'gow, Springb'rn) |
| Anderson, Donald | Ford, Ben | Maxton, John |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Forrester, John | Maynard, Miss Joan |
| Ashton, Joe | Foster, Derek | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert |
| Atkinson, Norman (H'gey, Tott'ham) | Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald | Mikardo, Ian |
| Bagler, Gordon A. T. | Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Millan, Rt Hon Bruce |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Miller, Dr M. S. (East Kilbride) |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | George, Bruce | Mitchell, Austin (Grimsby) |
| Beaumont-Dark, Anthony | Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John | Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) |
| Beith, A. J | Ginsburg, David | Morris, Rt Hon Alfred (Wythenshawe) |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Gourlay, Harry | Morris, Rt Hon Charles (Openshaw) |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Graham, Ted | Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon) |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Grant, John (Islington C) | Moyle, Rt Hon Roland |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur (M'brough) | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Newens, Stanley |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Harrison, Rt Hon Walter | Ogden, Eric |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Hart, Rt Hon Dame Judith | O'Halloran, Michael |
| Brown, Ronald W. (Hackney S) | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy | O'Neill, Martin |
| Brown, Ron (Edinburgh, Leith) | Haynes, Frank | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Buchan, Norman | Healey, Rt Hon Denis | Paisley, Rev Ian |
| Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE) | Heffer, Eric S. | Palmer, Arthur |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Hogg, Norman (E Dunbartonshire) | Park, George |
| Campbell, Ian | Holland, Stuart (L'beth, Vauxhall) | Parker, John |
| Campbell-Savours, Dale | Home Robertson, John | Parry, Robert |
| Canavan, Dennis | Homewood, William | Pavitt, Laurie |
| Carmichael, Neil | Hooley, Frank | Pendry, Tom |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Horam, John | Penhaligon, David |
| Cartwright, John | Howells, Geraint | Powell, Raymond (Ogmore) |
| Clark, Dr David (South Shields) | Huckfield, Les | Price, Christopher (Lewisham West) |
| Cocks, Rt Hon Michael (Bristol S) | Hudson Davies, Gwilym Ednyfed | Race, Reg |
| Cohen, Stanley | Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Radice, Giles |
| Coleman, Donald | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen North) | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds South) |
| Concannon, Rt Hon J D. | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Roberts, Allan (Bootle) |
| Conlan, Bernard | Jay, Rt Hon Douglas | Roberts, Ernest (Hackney North) |
| Cook, Robin F. | John, Brynmor | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) |
| Cowans, Harry | Johnson, Walter (Derby South) | Robertson, George |
| Craigen, J. M. (Glasgow, Maryhill) | Jones, Rt Hon Alec (Rhondda) | Robinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW) |
| Crowther, J. S. | Jones, Barry (East Flint) | Robinson, Peter (Belfast East) |
| Cryer, Bob | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Rodgers, Rt Hon William |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Kerr, Russell | Rooker, J. W. |
| Cunningham, George (Islington S) | Kilfedder, James A. | Roper, John |
| Dalyell, Tam | Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Ross, Ernest (Dundee West) |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Kinnock, Neil | Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Lambie, David | Rowlands, Ted |
| Davis, Clinton, (Hackney Central) | Lamborn, Harry | Ryman, John |
| Davis, Terry (B'rm'ham, Stechford) | Leadbitter, Ted | Sandelson, Neville |
| Deakins, Eric | Leighton, Ronald | Sever, John |
| Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Lewis, Arthur (Newham North West) | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert (A'ton-u-L) |
| Dempsey, James | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Shore, Rt Hon Peter (Step and Pop) |
| Dewar, Donald | Litherland, Robert | Short, Mrs Renée |
| Dixon, Donald | Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Dobson, Frank | Lyon, Alexander (York) | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Dormand, Jack | Lyons, Edward (Bradford West) | Silverman, Julius |
| Douglas, Dick | McCartney, Hugh | Skinner, Dennis |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | McDonald, Dr Oonagh | Smith, Rt Hon J (North Lanarkshire) |
| Duffy, A. E. P. | McElhone, Frank | Snape, Peter |
| Dunnett, Jack | McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Soley, Clive |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | McKay, Allen (Penistone) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Eastham, Ken | McKelvey, William | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) | MacKenzie, Rt Hon Gregor | Squire, Robin |
| Ellis, Raymond (NE Derbyshire) | Maclennan, Robert | Steel, Rt Hon David |
| Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | McNally, Thomas | Stoddart, David |
| English, Michael | McNamara, Kevin | Stott, Roger |
| Ennals, Rt Hon. David | McQuade, John | Strang, Gavin |
| Evans, loan (Aberdare) | McTaggart, Robert | Straw, Jack |
| Faulds, Andrew | McWilliam, John | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Field, Frank | Magee, Bryan | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton West) |
| Fiannery, Martin | Marks, Kenneth | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| Thomas, Mike (Newcastle East) | Watkins, David | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Thomas, Dr Roger (Carmarthen) | Weetch, Ken | Winnick, David |
| Thorne, Stan (Preston South) | Wellbeloved, James | Woodall, Alec |
| Tilley, John | White, James (Glasgow, Pollok) | Woolmer, Kenneth |
| Tinn, James | Whitehead, Phillip | Wright, Shella |
| Torney, Tom | Whitlock, William | Young, David (Bolton East) |
| Urwin, Rt Hon Tom | Wigley, Dafydd | |
| Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley) | Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W) | Mr. George Morton and |
| Walker, Rt Hon Harold (Doncaster) | Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington) | Mr. John Evans. |
| NOES | ||
| Adley, Robert | Eggar, Timothy | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Elliott, Sir William | Lawson, Nigel |
| Alexander, Richard | Emery, Peter | Lee, John |
| Allson, Michael | Eyre, Reginald | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Fairbairn, Nicholas | Lester, Jim (Beeston) |
| Alison, Michael | Faith, Mrs. Sheila | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) |
| Arnold, Tom | Farr, John | Lloyd, Ian (Havant & Waterloo) |
| Atkins, Robert (Preston North) | Fell, Anthony | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset) | Fenner, Mrs Peggy | Loveridge, John |
| Banks, Robert | Finsoerg, Geoffrey | Luce, Richard |
| Bell, Sir Ronald | Fisher, Sir Nigel | Lyell, Nicholas |
| Bendall, Vivian | Fletcher, Alexander (Edinburgh N) | McCrindle, Robert |
| Benyon, Thomas (Abingdon) | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Macfarlane, Neil |
| Benyon, W. (Buckingham) | Forman, Nigel | MacGregor, John |
| Best, Keith | Fowler, Rt Hon Norman | Mackay, John (Argyll) |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Fox, Marcus | Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Fraser, Rt Hon. H.(Stafford & St) | McNair-Wilson, Michael (Newbury) |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Fraser, Peter (South Angus) | McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) |
| Blackburn, John | Galbraith, Hon T. G. D. | McQuarrie, Albert |
| Blaker, Peter | Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Madel, David |
| Body, Richard | Gardner, Edward (South Fylde) | Major, John |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Garel-Jones, Tristan | Marland, Paul |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Glyn, Dr. Alan | Marlow, Tony |
| Bottomley, Peter (Woolwich West) | Goodhart, Philip | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) |
| Bowden, Andrew | Goodhew, Victor | Marten, Neil (Banbury) |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes | Goodlad, Alastair | Mates, Michael |
| Braine, Sir Bernard | Gorst, John | Mather, Carol |
| Bright, Graham | Gow, Ian | Maude, Rt Hon Angus |
| Brinton, Tim | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) | Mawby, Ray |
| Brittan, Leon | Gray, Hamish | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher | Greenway, Harry | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Brooke, Hon Peter | Grieve, Percy | Mayhew, Patrick |
| Brotherton, Michael | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St Edmunds) | Mellor, David |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Sc'thorpe) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Browne, John (Winchester) | Grist, Ian | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove & Redditch) |
| Bruce-Gardyne, John | Gummer, John Selwyn | Mills, Iain (Merlden) |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Hamilton, Hon Archie (Eps'm&Ew'll) | Mills, Peter (West Devon) |
| Buchanan-Smith, Hon Alick | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Buck, Antony | Hampson, Dr Keith | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) |
| Budgen, Nick | Hannam, John | Moate, Roger |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Haselhurst, Alan | Monro, Hector |
| Burden, F. A. | Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael | Montgomery, Fergus |
| Butcher, John | Hawkins, Paul | Morris, Michael (Northampton, Sth) |
| Butler, Hon Adam | Hawksley, Warren | Morrison, Hon Peter (City of Chester) |
| Cadbury, Jocelyn | Hayhoe, Barney | Murphy, Christopher |
| Carlisle, John (Luton West) | Heddle, John | Myles, David |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Henderson, Barry | Neale, Gerrard |
| Chalker, Mrs. Lynda | Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael | Needham, Richard |
| Channon, Paul | Hicks, Robert | Nelson, Anthony |
| Churchill, W. S. | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. | Neubert, Michael |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Hill, James | Newton, Tony |
| Clark, Sir William (Croydon South) | Holland, Philip (Carlton) | Onslow, Cranley |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Hooson, Tom | Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs Sally |
| Clegg, Sir Walter | Hordern, Peter | Osborn, John |
| Cockeram, Eric | Howell, Rt Hon David (Guildford) | Page, John (Harrow, West) |
| Colvin, Michael | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) | Page, Rt Hon Sir R. Graham |
| Cope, John | Hunt, David (Wirral) | Page, Richard (SW Hertfordshire) |
| Corrie, John | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) | Parris, Matthew |
| Costain, A. P. | Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick | Patten, Christopher (Bath) |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Jessel, Toby | Patten, John (Oxford) |
| Critchley, Julian | Johnson Smith, Geoffrey | Pattie, Geoffrey |
| Dickens, Geoffrey | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Pawsey, James |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith | Peyton, Rt Hon John |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Kimball, Marcus | Pink, R. Bonner |
| Dover, Denshore | King, Rt Hon Tom | Pollock, Alexander |
| du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Kitson, Sir Timothy | Porter, George |
| Dunlop, John | Knight, Mrs Jill | Prentice, Rt Hon Reg |
| Dunn, Robert (Dartford) | Knox, David | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Durant, Tony | Lamont, Norman | Prior, Rt Hon James |
| Dykes, Hugh | Lang, Ian | Proctor, K. Harvey |
| Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Langford-Holt, Sir John | Raison, Timothy |
| Edwards, Rt Hon N. (Pembroke) | Latham, Michael | Rathbone, Tim |
| Rees, Peter (Dover and Deal) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcestershire) | Waddington, David |
| Rees-Davies, W. R. | Sproat, Iain | Wakeham, John |
| Renton, Tim | Stainton, Keith | Waldegrave, Hon William |
| Rhodes James, Robert | Stanley, John | Walker, Bill (Perth & E Perthshire) |
| Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Steen, Anthony | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Ridsdale, Julian | Stevens, Martin | Wall, Patrick |
| Rifkind, Malcoim | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) | Walters, Dennis |
| Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Stewart, John (East Renfrewshire) | Ward, John |
| Rossi, Hugh | Stokes, John | Warren, Kenneth |
| Rost, Peter | Stradling Thomas, J. | Watson, John |
| Royle, Sir Anthony | Tapsell, Peter | Wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Sainsbury, Hon Timothy | Taylor, Robert (Croydon NW) | Wells, Bowen (Hert'rd & Stevn'age) |
| St. John-Stevas, Rt Hon Norman | Taylor, Teddy (Southend East) | Wheeler, John |
| Scott, Nicholas | Tebbit, Norman | Whitney, Raymond |
| Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | Temple-Morris, Peter | Wickenden, Keith |
| Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) | Thomas, Rt Hon Peter (Hendon S) | Wilkinson, John |
| Shelton, William (Streatham) | Thompson, Donald | Williams, Delwyn (Montgomery) |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Thorne, Neil (Ilford South) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge-Br'hills) | Thornton, Malcolm | Wolfson, Mark |
| Shersby, Michael | Townend, John (Bridlington) | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Silvester, Fred | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexieyheath) | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Sims, Roger | Trippier, David | |
| Skeet, T. H. H. | Trotter, Neville | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Smith, Dudley (War. and Leam'ton) | van Straubenzee, W. R. | Mr. Spencer Le Merchant and |
| Speller, Tony | Vaughan, Dr. Gerard | Mr. Anthony Berry, |
| Spence, John | Viggers, Peter |
§ Question accordingly negatived.