§ 16. Mr. Whiteheadasked the Minister of Transport when he expects next to meet the French Minister of Transport.
§ Mr. FowlerI look forward to seeing him at the meeting of the Council of European Transport Ministers later this year.
§ Mr. WhiteheadWhen the Minister meets his French counterpart, will he—despite what was said in the House earlier this afternoon—congratulate him on authorising the final planning stage of the Channel tunnel? Does the Minister agree 1768 that there should be British Government support for this project, which, particularly at a time of energy crisis, has a major contribution to make in terms of international communication and will stop the ceaseless proliferation of European juggernauts on our roads?
§ Mr. FowlerI know of the hon. Gentleman's interest in this matter and I think that he has made an important point. I can only repeat that we shall come to a conclusion, as indeed the last Administration were also pledged to do, as soon as we possibly can but preferably before the end of the year, the target date set by the former Secretary of State.
§ Mr. WarrenWill my right hon. Friend take action in collaboration with the French Minister of Transport to achieve a reduction in the cost of air and sea transportation across the Channel, which is becoming an inhibition to trade between the two countries? In those consultations, will he take prompt action to reduce the growing bureaucracy of the Customs and Excise affecting passengers and trade transportation between Britain and France?
§ Mr. FowlerI shall look at both those points. The first certainly comes within my jurisdiction. I will talk about these matters with the French Minister.
§ Mr. CookIf it is the Minister's intention to judge the Channel tunnel by reference to commercial profitability, will he inform the House what other major communication links he judges by that criterion?
§ Mr. FowlerAll roads have exactly the same inbuilt economic return. However, as I was pressed by the hon. Gentleman's Front Bench spokesman to judge by that criterion, I assumed that he was in agreement.
§ Mr. David PriceWill my right hon. Friend, in considering once again the possibility of a Channel tunnel, bear in mind the fact that it would be necessary to reorganise our own rail system so that we could run vehicles right through Europe and into the heart of Britain, not ending in London as originally proposed? In order to obtain the benefit that many of us seek from a Channel tunnel, it will be necessary to spend a lot of money on British Rail.
§ Mr. FowlerThe low-cost option, which is what the British Railways Board is putting forward, meets many objections that people have to the former scheme.