HC Deb 24 January 1979 vol 961 cc415-6
15. Mr. Temple-Morris

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects the European Court to produce its judgment on the tachograph.

23. Mr. Brotherton

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects the European Court to produce its judgment on the tachograph.

Mr. William Rodgers

Very shortly.

Mr. Temple-Morris

As a practical man, does the Secretary of State agree that the certain outcome of all this will be another negotiated period for the implementation of the tachograph in the United Kingdom?

Does he further agree that, by dragging his feet on this issue now for A number of years, he has missed the chance to deal with the tachograph as part of the current crisis in the road haulage industry? Surely it could easily have been got rid of as part of the current dispute and saved us from having to face yet another dispute in future.

Finally, does he agree that the tachograph, had it been involved in the present dispute, could have afforded a useful basis for a productivity settlement?

Mr. Rodgers

I must take the view that the hon. Gentleman does not have a complete sense of reality here. I do not believe that the present difficulties would have been eased had I not chosen, as he put it, to drag my feet. Very serious problems are involved. I think that we must await the decision of the court and then decide what it is best to do.

Mr. Jay

Will my right hon. Friend note that if the Government disregard this interference in British affairs they will have a great deal of support in the House?

Mr. Rodgers

I take note of my right hon. Friend's not unexpected position.

Mr. Dykes

Since British officials were also involved in the early stages of the tachograph proposal, has the Secretary of State decided why British lorry driver union representatives are so against it, while German lorry driver union representatives are so enthusiastic about it?

Mr. Rodgers

There are many strong differences of tradition. I have said in the House that if the tachograph had not been invented it would not have been necessary for us to consider its adoption. [Laughter.] I shall work that one out. What I had in mind to say was that we have our own ways of regulating drivers' hours and that, by and large, they have served us very well.