HC Deb 09 February 1977 vol 925 cc1425-7
16. Sir J. Langford-Holt

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he next intends to meet the Chairman of British Railways.

26. Mr. Cormack

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he next intends to meet the Chairman of British Railways.

Mr. William Rodgers

Later this week.

Sir J. Langford-Holt

Will the Minister take the opportunity of telling the Chairman of British Railways that the principle of public accountability means little unless more information is given about the cost of the railways? Will he tell him that it is unsatisfactory for an enormous amount of public money to be spent without further information being given to the House?

Mr. Rodgers

I know that the Chairman of British Railways studies Hansard with care. I am sure that he will note the hon. Member's question. If the hon. Member has specific suggestions to make he should write to me.

Mr. Cormack

Will the Secretary of State make a special statement to the House after he has seen the chairman of the board? Is he aware of the substantial disquiet in the House and in the country about the accountability of the board?

Mr. Rodgers

I do not think that that is a matter that lends itself to a statement to the House. We have debated the accountability of nationalised industries many times over the last 30 years. No one has found quite the right answer. The National Economic Development Office has recently published a report, with which the House is familiar. We must go ahead and try to find a better way of dealing with these matters. If the hon. Member has any specific suggestions he should make them in writing. I shall read them and pass them on.

Mr. Buchanan

When my hon. Friend meets the Chairman of British Railways will he draw his attention to the increasing number of breakdowns on the railways? Will he urge upon the chairman the need for reinvestment and the purchase of rolling stock in Scotland?

Mr. Rodgers

I am sure that the chairman will note that point, because he is anxious to ensure that his period as chairman results in an improvement in the standards of the railways and a rise in the confidence of those who work for British Rail.