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Lords amendment: No. 14, in page 4, line 5, at end insert—
'provided that the necessary resources for building and equipment have been made
§ available to give full effect to the Secretary of State's approval of the proposals.'"
§ Motion made, and Question put forth-with pursuant to the Order yesterday, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said Amendment.—[Mr. Bates.]:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 307, Noes 294.
371| Division No. 385.] | AYES | 10.51 p.m. |
| Abse, Leo | Cronin, John | Golding, John |
| Allaun, Frank | Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Gould, Bryan |
| Anderson, Donald | Crowther, Stan (Rotherham) | Gourlay, Harry |
| Archer, Peter | Cryer, Bob | Graham, Ted |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Grant, George (Morpeth) |
| Ashley, Jack | Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh) | Grant, John (Islington C) |
| Ashton, Joe | Dalyell, Tarn | Grocott, Bruce |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Davidson, Arthur | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) |
| Atkinson, Norman | Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) | Hardy, Peter |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Harper, Joseph |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) |
| Bates, Alf | Deakins, Eric | Hart, Rt Hon Judith |
| Bean, R. E. | Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Hatton, Frank |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Healey, Rt Hon Denis |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Dempsey, James | Heffer, Eric S. |
| Bishop, E. S. | Doig, Peter | Hooley, Frank |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Dormand, J. D. | Horam, John |
| Boardman, H. | Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham,Sm H) |
| Booth, Rt Hon Albert | Duffy, A. E. P. | Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Dunn, James A. | Huckfield, Les |
| Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Dunnett, Jack | Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) |
| Bradley, Tom | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Hughes, Mark (Durham) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Eadie, Alex | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Edge, Geoff | Hughes, Roy (Newport) |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) | Hunter, Adam |
| Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) | Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) |
| Buchan, Norman | Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) |
| Buchanan, Richard | English, Michael | Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) |
| Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE) | Ennals, David | Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) | Janner, Greville |
| Campbell, Ian | Evans, Gwynfor (Carmarthen) | Jay, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Canavan, Dennis | Evans, loan (Aberdare) | Jeger, Mrs Lena |
| Cant, R. B. | Evans, John (Newton) | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) |
| Carmichael, Nell | Ewing, Harry (Stirling) | John, Brynmor |
| Carter, Ray | Faulds, Andrew | Johnson, James (Hull West) |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. | Johnson, Walter (Derby S) |
| Cartwright, John | Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Jones, Alec (Rhondda) |
| Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Flannery, Martin | Jones, Barry (East Flint) |
| Clemitson, Ivor | Fletcher, L. R. (Ilkeston) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) |
| Cocks, Rt Hon Michael | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Judd, Frank |
| Cohen, Stanley | Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Kaufman, Gerald |
| Coleman, Donald | Ford, Ben | Kelley, Richard |
| Colquhoun, Ms Maureen | Forrester, John | Kerr, Russell |
| Concannon, J. D. | Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) | Kilroy-Silk, Robert |
| Conlan, Bernard | Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd) | Kinnock, Neil |
| Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Freeson, Reginald | Lambie, David |
| Corbett, Robin | Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Lamborn, Harry |
| Cowans, Harry | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Lamond, James |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | George, Bruce | Latham, Arthur (Paddington) |
| Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Gilbert, Dr John | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Ginsburg, David | Lee, John |
| Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) | O'Halloran, Michael | Stoddart, David |
| Lever, Rt Hon Harold | Orbach, Maurice | Stott, Roger |
| Lewis, Arthur (Newham N) | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Strang, Gavin |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Ovenden, John | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. |
| Lipton, Marcus | Owen, Rt Hon Dr David | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Litterick, Tom | Padley, Walter | Swain, Thomas |
| Lomas, Kenneth | Palmer, Arthur | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) |
| Loyden, Eddie | Park, George | Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth) |
| Luard, Evan | Parker, John | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| Lyon, Alexander (York) | Parry, Robert | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) |
| Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) | Pavitt, Laurie | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) |
| Mabon, Or J. Dickson | Pendry, Tom | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) |
| McCartney, Hugh | Perry, Ernest | Tierney, Sydney |
| McDonald, Or Oonagh | Phipps, Dr Colin | Tinn, James |
| McElhone, Frank | Prentice, Rt Hon Rag | Tomlinson, John |
| MacFarquhar, Roderick | Prescott, John | Tomney, Frank |
| McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Price, C. (Lewisham W) | Torney, Tom |
| MacKenzie, Gregor | Price, William (Rugby) | Urwin, T. W. |
| Mackintosh, John P. | Radice, Giles | Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. |
| Maclennan, Robert | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Richardson, Miss Jo | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| McNamara, Kevin | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Walker. Harold (Doncaster) |
| Madden, Max | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Magee, Bryan | Robertson, John (Paisley) | Ward, Michael |
| Maguire, Frank (Fermanagh) | Robinson, Geoffrey | Watkins, David |
| Mahon, Simon | Roderick, Caerwyn | Watkinson, John |
| Mallalieu, J. P. W. | Rodgers, George (Chorley) | Weetch, Ken |
| Marks, Kenneth | Rodgers, Rt Hon William (Stockton) | Weitzman, David |
| Marquand, David | Rooker, J. W. | Wellbeloved, James |
| Marshall Dr Edmund (Goole) | Roper, John | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) | Rose, Paul B. | White, James (Pollock) |
| Maynard, Miss Joan | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Meacher, Michael | Rowlands, Ted | Whitlock, William |
| Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Ryman, John | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Mendelson, John | Sandelson, Neville | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Mikardo, Ian | Sedgemore, Brian | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Millan, Rt Hon | Selby, Harry | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) | Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington) |
| Miller, Mrs Mille (Ilford N) | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) | Shore, Rt Hon Peter | Wilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton) |
| Molloy, William | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) | Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) | Woodall, Alec |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Sillars, James | Woof Robert |
| Moyle, Roland | Silverman, Julius | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick | Skinner, Dennis | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Small, William | |
| Newens, Stanley | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Noble, Mike | Spearing, Nigel | Mr. Peter Snape and |
| Oakes, Gordon | Spriggs, Leslie | Mr. A. W. Stallard |
| Ogden, Eric | Stewart, Rt Hon M. (Fulham) | |
| NOES | ||
| Adley, Robert | Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Emery, Peter |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Carlisle, Mark | Eyre, Reginald |
| Alison, Michael | Carson, John | Fairbairn, Nicholas |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Fairgrieve, Russell |
| Arnold, Tom | Channon, Paul | Farr, John |
| Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) | Churchill, W. S. | Fell, Anthony |
| Awdry, Daniel | Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Finsberg, Geoffrey |
| Baker, Kenneth | Clark, William (Croydon S) | Fisher, Sir Nigel |
| Banks, Robert | Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) |
| Beith, A. J. | Clegg, Walter | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles |
| Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torbay) | Cockcroft, John | Fookes, Miss Janet |
| Bennett, Dr Reginald (Fareham) | Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Forman, Nigel |
| Benyon, W. | Cope, John | Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) |
| Bitten, John | Cordle, John H. | Fox, Marcus |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Cormack, Patrick | Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) |
| Blaker, Peter | Corrie, John | Freud, Clement |
| Body, Richard | Costain, A. P. | Fry, Peter |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Craig, Rt Hon W. (Belfast E) | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. |
| Bottomley, Peter | Critchley, Julian | Gardiner, George (Reigate) |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) | Crouch, David | Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Crowder, F. P. | Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) |
| Bradford, Rev Robert | Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) |
| Braine, Sir Bernard | Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Glyn, Dr Alan |
| Brittan, Leon | Dodsworth, Geoffrey | Godber, Rt Hon Joseph |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, C. | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Goodhart, Philip |
| Brotherton, Michael | Drayson, Burnaby | Goodhew, Victor |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Dunlop, John | Gorst, John |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Durant, Tony | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) |
| Buck, Antony | Dykes, Hugh | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) |
| Budgen, Nick | Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Gray, Hamish |
| Burden, F. A. | Elliott, Sir William | Grieve, Percy |
| Griffiths, Eldon | Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) | Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) |
| Grimond, Rt Hon J. | McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) | Ross, William (Londonderry) |
| Grist, Ian | McNair-Wilson, p. (New Forest) | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) |
| Grylls, Michael | Madel, David | Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) |
| Hall, Sir John | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Royle, Sir Anthony |
| Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Marten, Neil | Salisbury, Tim |
| Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Males, Michael | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Hampson, Dr Keith | Mather, Carol | Scott, Nicholas |
| Hannam, John | Maude, Angus | Scott-Hopkins, James |
| Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss | Maudling, Rt Hon Reginald | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) |
| Hastings, Stephen | Mawby, Ray | Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) |
| Havers, Sir Michael | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Shelton, William (Streatham) |
| Hawkins, Paul | Mayhew, Patrick | Shepherd, Colin |
| Hayhoe, Barney | Meyer, Sir Anthony | Shersby, Michael |
| Heath, Rt Hon Edward | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) | Silvester, Fred |
| Heseltine, Michael | Mills, Peter | Sims, Roger |
| Hicks, Robert | Miscampbell, Norman | Sinclair, Sir George |
| Higgins, Terence L. | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Skeet, T. H. H. |
| Hodgson, Robin | Moate, Roger | Smith, Cyril (Rochdale) |
| Holland, Philip | Molyneaux, James | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) |
| Hooson, Emlyn | Monro, Hector | Speed, Keith |
| Hordern, Peter | Montgomery, Fergus | Spence, John |
| Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Moore, John (Croydon C) | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) |
| Howell, David (Guildford) | More, Jasper (Ludlow) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcester) |
| Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) | Morgan, Geraint | Sproat, lain |
| Howells, Geraint (Cardigan) | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Hunt, David (Wirral) | Morris, Michael (Northampton S) | Stanley, John |
| Hunt, John (Bromley) | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Steel, David (Roxburgh) |
| Hurd, Douglas | Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) | Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) |
| Hutchison, Michael Clark | Mudd, David | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) |
| Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Neave, Airey | Stokes, John |
| James, David | Nelson, Anthony | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| Jenkin, Rt Hon P.(Wanst'd & W'df'd) | Neubert, Michael | Tapsell, Peter |
| Jessel, Toby | Newton, Tony | Taylor, R. (Croydon NW) |
| Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) | Nott, John | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) |
| Johnston, Russell (Inverness) | Onslow, Cranley | Tebbit, Norman |
| Jones, Arthur (Daventry) | Oppenheim, Mrs Salty | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Jopling, Michael | Osborn, John | Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret |
| Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith | Page, John (Harrow West) | Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S) |
| Kaberry, Sir Donald | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) | Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon) |
| Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine | Page, Richard (Workington) | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| Kershaw, Anthony | Paisley, Rev Ian | Trotter, Neville |
| Kilfedder, James | Pardoe, John | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Kimball, Marcus | Parkinson, Cecil | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| King, Evelyn (South Dorset) | Pattie, Geoffrey | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Penhaligon, David | Viggers, Peter |
| Kirk, Sir Peter | Percival, Ian | Wainwright, Richard (Colne V) |
| Kitson, Sir Timothy | Peyton, Rt Hon John | Wakenham, John |
| Knight, Mrs Jill | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch | Walder, David (Clitheroe) |
| Knox, David | Price, David (Eastleigh) | Walker. Rt Hon P. (Worcester) |
| Lamont, Norman | Prior, Rt Hon James | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Lane, David | Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Wall, Patrick |
| Langford-Holt, Sir John | Raison, Timothy | Walters, Dennis |
| Latham, Michael (Mellon) | Rathbone, Tim | Warren, Kenneth |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) | Weatherill Bernard |
| Lawson, Nigel | Rees-Davies, W. R. | Wells, John |
| Lester, Jim (Beeston) | Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Whitelaw, Rt Hon William |
| Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Lloyd, Ian | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Loveridge, John | Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Wood, Rt Hon Richard |
| Luce, Richard | Ridsdale, Julian | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) |
| McAdden, Sir Stephen | Rifkind, Malcolm | Younger, Hon George |
| McCrindle, Robert | Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey | |
| McCusker, H. | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Macfarlane, Nell | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Mr. Spencer Le Marchant and |
| MacGregor, John | Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) | Mr. Anthony Berry |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Lords Amendments Nos. 15 and 16 disagreed to.
§ Mr. SpeakerI am now required to put the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in all the remaining amendments.
§ Lords Amendments Nos. 17 and 18 agreed to.
§ Motion made,
372§ That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments to the Bill:
§ That Dr. Rhodes Boyson, Miss Margaret Jackson, Mr. Norman St. John-Stevas, Mr. Frank R. White and Mrs. Shirley Williams be members of the Committee:
§ That Three be the quorum.—[Mrs. Shirley Williams.]
373§ Mr. John Peyton (Yeovil)I give notice of my intention to move, as an amendment to the motion, that the name of Mr. Alan Beith be added to the list of names.
§ Mr. SpeakerThe proceedings upon this motion are not among those provided for under the Order to which the House agreed yesterday. I have no power to put the Question forthwith, nor can the business be proceeded with after 10 o'clock if opposed. I have to rule that what the right hon. Member has suggested constitutes opposition, and we cannot therefore debate the matter now.