§ 19. Mr. Blakerasked the Secretary of State for Defence when he next expects to meet the NATO Defence Ministers.
§ Mr. William RodgersMy right hon. Friend attended the Eurogroup and Defence Planning Committee ministerial meetings last week, and is in Brussels today for the Nuclear Planning Group. Inevitably he regrets his absence from the House at question time.
§ Mr. BlakerWill the Minister of State confirm that the NATO military programme—which I understand was agreed by the meeting of Ministers last week, to which he has just referred—foresees that up to 1982 the member countries will continue to spend about the same percentage of their gross national product on defence 299 as now? Will he confirm that the Government accept that policy?
§ Mr. RodgersI remind the hon. Gentleman and the House that we ought to await the communiqué, which, following the usual convention, will be published at the end of this round of NATO meetings; but I have no immediate reason to dissent from the views that the hon. Member expresses.
Mr. R. C. MitchellHave the Opposition agreed to pair the Secretary of State to enable him to go to this very important meeting?
§ Mr. RodgersThe circumstances were such that the importance of the meeting necessitated my right hon. Friend's attendance, whatever the cost might have been.
§ Mr. Ian GilmourWe understand the reason for the Secretary of State's absence—of which he gave me notice—but in view of the obvious need to strengthen the southern flank of NATO, will the right hon. Gentleman assure the House that as Spain moves away from the Franco régime the British Government will not oppose Spain's joining NATO?
§ Mr. RodgersI cannot give that undertaking at the present time, although I am sure that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State will take the opportunity to report to the House on his return.