HC Deb 22 July 1976 vol 915 cc1994-5
11. Mr. Stokes

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, pursuant to his answer to the hon. Member for Halesowen and Stourbridge on 24th June, he will collect statistics on a basis which distinguishes the nationality of those convicted under Section 6 of the Race Relations Act 1965.

Mr. John

Criminal statistics are not normally collected on this basis, and we doubt if the usefulness of information about nationality would justify making special arrangements.

Mr. Stokes

Is not that answer ridiculous humbug? Does it not smack of the secrecy of the Star Chamber? Why does not the Minister say outright what the nationality is? Is this a cover-up for persecuting the English nation?

Mr. John

The hon. Gentleman has a somewhat affectionate place as a licensed buffoon in this Chamber—

Mr. Wiggin

Withdraw.

Mr. Gow

Disgraceful.

Mr. Speaker

Order. The term "buffoon" should not be applied to anyone in the Chamber.

Mr. John

Then I withdraw that, Mr. Speaker. But the facts that the hon. Gentleman rambles about here are not germane to Section 6 of the Act. That section deals with incitement to racial hatred, and the Act states that people who incite to racial hatred shall be dealt with whatever their nationality. There is, therefore, no question of the conspiracy which the hon. Gentleman seems to see in everything.

Mr. Heffer

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker—

Mr. Speaker

I shall take it immediately after Questions.

Mr. Heffer

It relates to your ruling a moment ago, Mr. Speaker. However, I shall raise it at the end of Questions.

Mr. Speaker

I shall be obliged to the hon. Gentleman if he will do that.

Mr. Whitelaw

I might not agree with everything that is said by my hon. Friend the Member for Halesowen and Stourbridge (Mr. Stokes), but the Minister should understand that my hon. Friend holds views very strongly and he puts them forward most sincerely in the House.

Mr. John

The depth of conviction is not of itself justification for the views that are put forward.