§ Lords amendment agreed to.
§ Lords Amendment: No. 133, in page 23, line 36, leave out "advisory" and insert "appeal".
§ Question put, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment.
§ The House divided: Ayes 270, Noes 247.
669| Division No. 356.] | AYES | [12.30 a.m. |
| Abse, Leo | Atkinson, Norman | Blenkinsop, Arthur |
| Allaun, Frank | Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Boardman, H. |
| Anderson, Donald | Bates, Alt | Booth, Albert |
| Archer, Peter | Bean, R. E. | Boothroyd, Miss Betty |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur |
| Ashley, Jack | Bidwell, Sydney | Boyden, James (Bish Auck) |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Bishop, E. S. | Bradley, Tom |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) | Peart, Rt Hon Fred |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) | Pendry, Tom |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Perry, Ernest |
| Buchanan, Richard | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Phipps, Dr Colin |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Hunter, Adam | Prentice, Rt Hon Reg |
| Campbell, Ian | Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) | Price, C. (Lewisham W) |
| Canavan, Dennis | Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) | Price, William (Rugby) |
| Cant, R. B. | Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) | Radice, Giles |
| Carmichael, Neil | Janner, Greville | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) |
| Carson, John | Jay, Rt Hon Douglas | Richardson, Miss Jo |
| Carter, Ray | Jeger, Mrs Lena | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) |
| Cartwright, John | John, Brynmor | Robertson, John (Paisley) |
| Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Johnson, James (Hull West) | Roderick, Caerwyn |
| Clemitson, Ivor | Johnson, Walter (Derby S) | Rodgers, George (Chorley) |
| Cocks, Michael (Bristol S) | Jones, Alec (Rhondda) | Rodgers, William (Stockton) |
| Cohen, Stanley | Jones, Barry (East Flint) | Rooker, J. W. |
| Coleman, Donald | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Rose, Paul B. |
| Colquhoun, Mrs Maureen | Judd, Frank | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) |
| Concannon, J. D. | Kaufman, Gerald | Rowlands, Ted |
| Conlan, Bernard | Kelley, Richard | Sandelson, Neville |
| Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Corbett, Robin | Kinnock, Neil | Selby, Harry |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Lambie, David | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) |
| Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Lamborn, Harry | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Lamond, James | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Cronin, John | Latham, Arthur (Paddington) | Short, Rt Hon E. (Newcastle C) |
| Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Lee, John | Short, Mrs Renee (Wolv NE) |
| Cryer, Bob | Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Davidson, Arthur | Lipton, Marcus | Sillars, James |
| Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Litterick, Tom | Silverman, Julius |
| Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) | Lomas, Kenneth | Skinner, Dennis |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Loyden, Eddie | Small, William |
| Deakins, Eric | Luard, Evan | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) |
| Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Lyon, Alexander (York) | Snape, Peter |
| Delargy, Hugh | Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Mabon, Dr J. Dickson | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Dempsey, James | McCartney, Hugh | Stallard, A. W. |
| Doig, Peter | McElhone, Frank | Stoddart, David |
| Dormand, J. D. | MacFarquhar, Roderick | Stott, Roger |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Strang, Gavin |
| Duffy, A. E. P. | Mackenzie, Gregor | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. |
| Dunn, James A. | Mackintosh, John P. | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Dunnett, Jack | Maclennan, Robert | Swain, Thomas |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) |
| Eadie, Alex | McNamara, Kevin | Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth) |
| Edelman, Maurice | Madden, Max | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| Edge, Geoff | Magee, Bryan | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) |
| Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) | Mahon, Simon | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) |
| English, Michael | Mallalieu, J. P. W. | Tierney, Sydney |
| Ennals, David | Marks, Kenneth | Tomlinson, John |
| Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) | Marquand, David | Tomney, Frank |
| Evans, Gwynfor (Carmarthen) | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) | Torney, Tom |
| Evans, Ioan (Aberdare) | Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) | Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. |
| Ewing, Harry (Stirling) | Mason, Rt Hon Roy | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. | Maynard, Miss Joan | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Meacher, Michael | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Fitt, Gerard (Belfast W) | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Flannery, Martin | Mikardo, Ian | Ward, Michael |
| Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Millan, Bruce | Watkins, David |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Watkinson, John |
| Ford, Ben | Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N) | Weetch, Ken |
| Forrester, John | Molloy, William | Weitzman, David |
| Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) | Moonman, Eric | Wellbeloved, James |
| Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Freeson, Reginald | Morris, Charles R, (Openshaw) | White, James (Pollok) |
| Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Whitehead, Phillip |
| George, Bruce | Moyle, Roland | Whitlock, William |
| Gilbert, Dr John | Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Ginsburg, David | Newens, Stanley | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Gould, Bryan | Noble, Mike | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Gourlay, Harry | Oakes, Gordon | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Graham, Ted | Ogden, Eric | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Grant, George (Morpeth) | O'Malley, Rt Hon Brian | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
| Grant, John (Islington C) | Orbach, Maurice | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Harper, Joseph | Ovenden, John | Woof, Robert |
| Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Owen, Dr David | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Hart, Rt Hon Judith | Padley, Walter | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Hatton, Frank | Park, George | |
| Hayman, Mrs Helens | Parker, John | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Parry, Robert | Mr. James Hamilton and |
| Horam, John | Pavitt, Laurie | Miss Margaret Jackson. |
| Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) | ||
| NOES | ||
| Adley, Robert | Goodlad, Alastair | Morgan, Geraint |
| Alison, Michael | Gorst, John | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral |
| Arnold, Tom | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) | Morris, Michael (Northampton S) |
| Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) |
| Awdry, Daniel | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) | Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) |
| Bain, Mrs Margaret | Gray, Hamish | Mudd, David |
| Baker, Kenneth | Grieve, Percy | Neave, Airey |
| Banks, Robert | Grist, Ian | Nelson, Anthony |
| Beith, A. J. | Hall, Sir John | Neubert, Michael |
| Bell, Ronald | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Newton, Tony |
| Berry, Hon Anthony | Hampson, Dr Keith | Nott, John |
| Biffen, John | Hannam, John | Onslow, Cranley |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss | Oppenheim, Mrs Sally |
| Blaker, Peter | Hastings, Stephen | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) |
| Body, Richard | Havers, Sir Michael | Pardoe, John |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Hawkins, Paul | Pattie, Geoffrey |
| Bottomley, Peter | Hayhoe, Barney | Penhaligon, David |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) | Heath, Rt Hon Edward | Percival, Ian |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Henderson, Douglas | Peyton, Rt Hon John |
| Braine, Sir Bernard | Heseltine, Michael | Pink, R. Bonner |
| Brittan, Leon | Hicks, Robert | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, C. | Higgins, Terence L. | Pym, Rt Hon Francis |
| Brotherton Michael | Hordern, Peter | Raison, Timothy |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Howell, David (Guildford) | Rathbone, Tim |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Hunt, John | Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Hurd, Douglas | Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) |
| Buck, Antony | Hutchison, Michael Clark | Reid, George |
| Budgen, Nick | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon |
| Burden, F. A. | James, David | Ridley, Hon Nicholas |
| Carlisle, Mark | Jenkin, Rt Hn P. (Wanst'd & W'df'd) | Rifkind, Malcolm |
| Carr, Rt Hon Robert | Jessel, Toby | Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) |
| Churchill, W. S. | Jones, Arthur (Daventry) | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) |
| Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Jopling, Michael | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) |
| Clark, William (Croydon S) | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith | Royle, Sir Anthony |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Kershaw, Anthony | Sainsbury, Tim |
| Cockcroft, John | Kilfedder, James | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Kimball, Marcus | Scott, Nicholas |
| Cope, John | King, Evelyn (South Dorset) | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) |
| Cordle, John H. | King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Shelton, William (Streatham) |
| Cormack, Patrick | Kitson, Sir Timothy | Shepherd, Colin |
| Crawford, Douglas | Knight, Mrs Jill | Shersby Michael |
| Critchley, Julian | Knox, David | Silvester, Fred |
| Crouch, David | Lamont, Norman | Sims, Roger |
| Crowder, F. P. | Lane, David | Sinclair, Sir George |
| Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Langford-Holt, Sir John | Skeet, T. H. H. |
| Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Latham, Michael (Melton) | Smith, Cyril (Rochdale) |
| Dodsworth, Geoffrey | Lawrence, Ivan | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Lawson, Nigel | Speed, Keith |
| Drayson, Burnaby | Lester, Jim (Beeston) | Spicer Michael (S Worcester) |
| du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Sproat, Iain |
| Durant, Tony | Loveridge, John | Stainton, Keith |
| Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Luce, Richard | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | McAdden, Sir Stephen | Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) |
| Elliott, Sir William | MacCormick, Iain | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) |
| Emery, Peter | McCrindle, Robert | Stokes, John |
| Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) | Macfarlane, Neil | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| Eyre, Reginald | MacGregor, John | Tapsell, Peter |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) | Taylor, R. (Croydon NW) |
| Fairgrieve, Russell | McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) |
| Farr, John | McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Fell, Anthony | Madel, David | Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret |
| Finsberg, Geoffrey | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Thomas, Rt. Hon P. (Hendon s) |
| Fisher, Sir Nigel | Marten, Neil | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Mates, Michael | Trotter, Neville |
| Fookes, Miss Janet | Mather, Carol | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) | Maude, Angus | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Fox, Marcus | Mayhew, Ray | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Viggers, Peter |
| Fry, Peter | Mayhew, Patrick | Wainwright, Richard (Colne V) |
| Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. | Meyer, Sir Anthony | Wakeham, John |
| Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) | Walder, David (Clitheroe) |
| Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) | Mills, Peter | Walker, Rt Hon P. (Worcester) |
| Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) | Miscampbell, Norman | Wall, Patrick |
| Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Walters, Dennis |
| Glyn, Dr Alan | Moate, Roger | Watt, Hamish |
| Godber, Rt Hon Joseph | Montgomery, Fergus | Watt, Hamish |
| Goodhart, Philip | Moore, John (Croydon C) | Wells, John |
| Goodhew, Victor | More, Jasper (Ludlow) | Whitelaw, Rt Hon William |
| Wiggin, Jerry | Wood, Rt Hon Richard | TELLERS FOR THE NOES |
| Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E) | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) | Mr. Adam Butler and |
| Winterton, Nicholas | Younger, Hon George | Mr. Cecil Parkinson. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Lords Amendment: No. 135, in page 24, line 1, leave out from "by" to "where" and insert "employee representatives"
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§ Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: In page 24, line 1, after "the" insert "authorised".—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Lords Amendment: No. 136, in page 24, line 3, leave out from second "to" to "for "in line 4 and insert "employee representatives"
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§
Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: page 24, line 3, leave out
representatives of relevant trade unions
§ and insert "authorised representatives"—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Subsequent Lords amendment disagreed to.
§ Lords Amendment: No. 139, in page 24, line 7, leave out from "to" to "for" in line 8 and insert "employee representatives"
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§ Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: in page 24, line 7, after "to" insert "authorised".—[Mr. Varley.]
§
Lords Amendment: No. 141, in page 24, line 11, leave out:
each relevant trade union's representative
§ and insert "any employee representatives".
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§ Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: in page 24, line 11, after "union's" insert "authorised".—[Mr. Varley.]
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§
Lords Amendment: No. 142, in page 24, line 14 leave out subsections (6) to (9) and insert—
(6) The appeal committee shall consider any representations made under subsection (5) above, shall give a direction whether or not all or any part of the information which is the subject of the reference shall be furnished to employee representatives and shall make a report to the Minister giving their findings.
(7) Where there has been a reference the Minister shall notify:
of the direction of the appeal committee; and in accordance therewith a notice under this subsection shall be treated as requiring the information specified in the direction to be furnished to employee representatives.(8)Where there has been no reference to the appeal committee, the Minister may notify the company or companies concerned and each employee representative, at the end of the period specified in his preliminary notice under section 22 above, that this notice is to be treated as final.
(9)This section will apply with appropriate modification in any case where only part of the information furnished to the Minister falls to be disclosed to employee representatives.
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§
Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: in page 24, line 14, leave out subsection (6) to (9) and insert—
'(6) The advisory committee shall make a report to the Minister after the close of their consideration of the reference, giving their findings of fact and their recommendations, and after considering any representations made under subsection (5) above.
(7)Where a matter has been referred to the committee, the Minister may make a final decision relating to his proposal only after receiving and considering the committee's report on it.
(8)Subject to subsection (12) below, where there has been a reference, the Minister shall notify—
of his final decision; and a notice under this
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subsection shall be treated as requiring the information specified in it to be furnished to each such representative within such reasonable time as may be so specified.(9) The Minister's notice under subsection (8) above to the company or companies concerned and to the authorised representatives shall state whether or not he accepted the committee's advice.—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Subsequent Lords amendment disagreed to.
§ Lords Amendment: No. 145, in page 24, line 35, leave out from "and" to "at" and insert "employee representatives".
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§ Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: in page 24, line 35, after 'union's' insert 'authorised'.—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Lords Amendment: No. 147, in page 24, line 41, leave out from second "to" to end of line 42 and insert "employee representatives".
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
§ Amendment made to the Bill in lieu thereof: in page 24, line 41, leave out 'a' and insert 'the authorised'.—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Subsequent Lords amendment disagreed to.
§
Lords Amendment: No. 149; in page 24, line 42, at end insert
within such reasonable time as may be specified".
§
Amendment to the Lords amendment made: in line 42, leave out 'so specified' and insert
'specified in the notice under subsection (10) above'.—[Mr. Varley.]
§ Lords amendment, as amended, agreed to.
§ Lords Amendment: No. 151, in page 25, line 1, leave out subsections (12) to (16).
§ Question, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment, put and agreed to.
676§ Amendments made to the words so restored to the Bill:
§
In page 25, line 11, at end insert:
'within such reasonable time as may be specified in the order'.
§
In page 25, line 11, at end insert—
'(12A) An order under subsection (12) above shall be laid before Parliament after being made'.
§ In page 25, line 13, leave out 'until' and insert 'if before'.
§
In page 25, line 15, at end insert:
'either House resolves that an Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that it be annulled.
(13A) If no such resolution is passed by either House, the order shall come into effect at the end of the said period.
(13B) If such a resolution is passed by either House, Her Majesty may by Order in Council revoke the order. '.
§ In page 25, line 15, leave out subsection (14).
§ In page 25, line 20, leave out ' either House is ' and insert ' both Houses are '.—[Mr. Varley]