HC Deb 03 March 1975 vol 887 cc1225-8
Several Hon. Members

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Mr. Speaker

I call Mr. Short.

12.15 a.m.

The Lord President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons (Mr. Edward Short)

With permission, Mr. Speaker, I should like to make a short business statement.

Mr. John Gorst (Hendon, North)

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Mr. Walter Clegg (North Fylde)

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Mr. Speaker

Order. I called the Leader of the House. Mr. Short.

Mr. Gorst

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

I may perhaps take points of order afterwards. I want to hear what the Leader of the House has to say.

Mr. Gorst

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Hon. Members

Name him.

Mr. Short

In view of the rate of progress on the Report stage—

Mr. Gorst

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Mr. Speaker

I have said that I want to hear first what the Leader of the House has to say. I might perhaps take a point of order after that.

Mr. Short

In view of the rate of progress on the Report stage of the Finance Bill

Mr. Gorst

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Mr. Short

—the Government will ask the House to consider a motion relating to the remaining stages of the Bill. The motion has been tabled and will be taken as first business at tomorrow's sitting.

Secondly, in view of the imminent risk of redundancies, the House will also be asked to consider at the end of Wednesday a motion relating to financial assistance to Norton Villiers Triumph Limited.

Several Hon. Members

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Mr. Speaker

I call the right hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton).

Mr. John Peyton (Yeovil)

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Mr. Gorst

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker

I called the right hon. Member for Yeovil.

Mr. Gorst

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Hon. Members

Name him.

Mr. Speaker

If I think it appropriate, I will take the point of order after I have heard the right hon. Gentleman.

Mr. Peyton

I think the whole House—or at least the Opposition—will have heard the statement made by the Leader of the House with disgust and dismay. We deplore his evident concern to throttle discussion upon tax measures which will have a fierce bearing on many people.

Secondly, I should like to ask the right hon. Gentleman why suddenly, at this late hour, the Government have discovered that the motion relating to financial assistance to Norton Villiers Triumph Limited is so urgent. It has, I think, been on the Order Paper for four months. Are we to take it that the convenience of the Secretary of State for Industry is to be weighed above that of the House of Commons? We would like confirmation of that, although in the circumstances we would greet that confirmation without surprise.

Mr. Edward Short

The right hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton) is entitled to an answer to that question. It is because the Chairman of Norton Villiers Triumph has informed us today that this money must be forthcoming this week, otherwise there will be redundancies. This is the first that the Government have heard of the urgency of the matter.

Mr. Jeremy Thorpe (Devon, North)

Will the Leader of the House be good enough to say why we are first invited to vote to adjourn consideration of the Bill and only afterwards are we given any explanation by the right hon. Gentleman? Are we to take this to be a precedent that he intends to follow in the future?

Mr. Speaker

We have had a vote on the motion. That has been decided. In accordance with convention, I have allowed the Leader of the House to make a statement about business, and I gather that its very controversial substance will be debated tomorrow. I think that that is the end of it.

Several Hon. Members

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker—

Mr. Speaker

I am prepared to take one point of order—[HON. MEMBERS: "No."]—which is quite contrary to precedent.

Several Hon. Members

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Mr. Speaker

Mr. Emery. A point of order.

Mr. Peter Emery (Honiton)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I ask you to consider, perhaps in slightly calmer times, the position we have reached? In a moment of pressure, if the Chair does not finally put the Question and another hon. Member—in this instance the Leader of the House—rises to address the House, not on a point of order, would you not consider that the debate had been resumed and that the motion had not been put to the House? If that is the case I wonder whether you could give a ruling to the House, because it is most important, especially to protect the rights of minorities.

Mr. Speaker

I always try to do that. In fact, the motion was put. There was a Division. [HON. MEMBERS: "No."] I thought that I announced the result of the Division. Then I allowed, as I think is the convention of the House, the Leader of the House to make a statement. I allowed one supplementary question on that. I am afraid that this is the end of it.

Several Hon. Members

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Mr. Walter Harrison (Treasurer of Her Majesty's Household)

I beg to move, That this House—

Several Hon. Members

On a point of order—

Mr. Speaker

Hon. Members may shout at me as much as they like. I intend now—Hon. Members: ["No."] I intend now to call the Adjournment motion.

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