§ 5.9 a.m.
§ Mr. Fergus Montgomery (Altrincham and Sale)I apologise to the hon. Lady the Under-Secretary of State for Education and Science because nine minutes past five in the morning is not the best time to have to reply to an Adjournment debate. I can only promise to be brief. I am sure that she will be as anxious as I am to get home.
I am glad to have the opportunity to press for the rebuilding of the junior department of St. Anne's Church of England Primary School in Sale. This school has approximately 280 pupils and was built somewhere between 1850 and 1890. I was under the belief that most of the schools in this country built in the 19th century had by now gone. Obviously I am wrong, because I have one in my constituency. Although the building itself is very old, I should like to pay tribute to the excellent teaching in the school under the flourishing parent-teachers' association, which has raised a great deal of money in order to try to keep this building in reasonable repair. However, I think that the people in the parent-teachers' association must be getting rather sick of raising money in order to spend it patching up a school building that they hope will not be there for very much longer.
This school now comes under the jurisdiction of the Trafford Local Education Authority, and recently Trafford compiled a report on the condition of this building. I should like to refer briefly to the part dealing with the question of health:
Washing facilities are situated in two separate cloakrooms, containing 4 wash hand basins each. The toilet facilities are situated in two separate buildings and there are 2 continuous slab urinals and 16 W.C's.In the case of the washing facilities, these are below standard requirements of 1 fitting to 15 pupils.The outside toilet facilities are not satisfactorily protected from frost. The pans and water pipes could become frozen due to lack of proper insulation and the open design of the toilet buildings themselves.The school meals kitchen is very small and its size makes it unsatisfactory for the number of meals served each day. Meals are only served in this area. A certain amount of rainwater penetration has occurred in one small area of the kitchen due to a defective valley gutter. 2 large porcelain sinks are badly 1767 chipped and replacement would be desirable for health reasons. Rainwater penetration in classrooms is obvious though by no means serious and can be remedied by normal gutter and roof repairs. Constant water penetration over a long period has damaged decorations to walls and ceilings in part of the primary school building though this is not serious.Perhaps it is not serious to the officials who compiled that report, but to the parents whose children go to this school it is regarded as extremely serious. I am sure that the Minister will agree that it is obvious that parents in the area are incensed at the conditions under which their children are taught.With just a little luck, St. Anne's Primary School would have been rebuilt by now, but there were a series of unfortunate incidents. Originally a new school was detailed to be built in three phases. Phase one was an open plan infants' department. This has been built and was opened in September 1971. The great hope then was that phase two, a small hall and new kitchen, and phase three, a new junior department, would follow fairly quickly.
At that time, in 1971, the local education authority was the Cheshire County Council. One of the difficulties in this situation is the change with local government reorganisation, when this area was moved from Cheshire into the new Trafford local authority. I am told that in January 1973 the architects delivered plans by hand to Cheshire County Council. Then, as no action seemed to be forthcoming, inquiries were made in May 1973 and Cheshire County Council then claimed to have no knowledge at all of these plans. The plans were submitted immediately and were passed on to the Department of Education and Science with all possible haste.
I am also told that in June 1973 the plans were approved and the expectation was that tenders would go out in September 1973, and the hope was that work would start on the site in November 1973. But then in December 1973 we had the embargo on school construction. The architects who did the designs for the school suggested at that time to the managers of the school that a plea should be made on the ground of extenuating circumstances, and that plea was that but for the delay by the local education authority in submitting the sketch plans 1768 to the Department of Education and Science the school building would have received final approval before the application of the December 1973 circular which delayed consideration of final plans and which in turn resulted in the school building being deferred under the emergency financial resolution affecting replacement schools.
So 1973 was not a particularly lucky year for St. Anne's School, but now we are half way through 1975 and the situation has not improved. The children are taught in classrooms heated by coke stoves supplemented by storage heaters and electric fires. These classrooms are not the warmest of places on winter days. The children are taught in classrooms where many windows will not open or shut, and in places the windows are so rotten that window cleaners refuse to touch them. The children are taught in classrooms where rain comes through the roof and buckets are placed at strategic points. The children are taught in classrooms where water seeps down walls and where many doors have large gaps which give rise to draughts and heat loss. This is a school where, as I have already said, the toilet and kitchen facilities are far below standard. To listen to this description sounds like something out of a Charles Dickens novel, but this is 1975, and still these conditions persist.
I have here a letter dated 26th July 1974, written by the right hon. Member for Newham, North-East (Mr. Prentice) when he was still Secretary of State for Education and Science, and which gives an assurance to my predecessor, then Mr. Anthony Barber, Member of Parliament for Altrincham and Sale. In his letter from Elizabeth House, the right hon. Gentleman said:
As you will know, under the terms of Circular 15/73, the project cannot be approved for a building start until after June 1975 at the earliest.That is perhaps one reasons why I applied for the Adjournment debate. We are now in July 1975. June is past. Perhaps now approval can be given for a start to be made on this project. The parent teachers' association has made great efforts. In 1969 the parents helped considerably to raise£2,000 as a contribution to the retrospective payments required by the Barchester Fund. Since then the association has contributed£80 annually towards the£295 a year paid by 1769 the Church for the rebuilding of the school. They feel that this money is like making mortgage payments on a building that does not exist.Finally I call in aid a letter from Mr. T. J. Harper of the Schools Branch of the Department of Education and Science. This reads:
A building start on the St. Anne's project will therefore have to be delayed until after June 1975, and it is not possible at present to say how soon thereafter work will begin. I can assure you, however, that we are fully aware of the need to replace the Junior Department and will arrange for the project to go forward as soon as circumstances permit.I hope that we shall have more hopeful news and that this saga, spread over several years, of hopes raised only to be dashed, will have a happy ending. There is a tremendous spirit in this school, and, despite the surroundings, the teachers do a magnificent job. It is a happy school which has achieved excellent educational results. People connected with this school have waited patiently for the go-ahead for the new building. I hope, therefore, that tonight the Minister will give a firm undertaking and thereby avoid any further delay and disappointment.
§ 5.19 a.m.
§ The Under-Secretary of State for Education and Science (Miss Joan Lestor)The hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Montgomery) has not exaggerated the conditions at the school. It is very old and has totally inadequate toilet facilities, substandard heating, lighting and ventilation, much structural decay, and other problems.
There has been much local pressure in recent years for its replacement and the hon. Member will be aware that a 120-place first instalment of a new seven-classroom school was approved as part of the 1970–71 aided minor works programme, administered at that time by the Department. This was opened in September 1971. It has been built on a site adjoining the existing school and accommodates those pupils of infant age.
The hon. Member will also know that a 160-place project intended to complete the new school was included in the major school building starts programme for 1973–74. Unfortunately the project could not proceed as planned because of the 1770 drastic cuts in educational expenditure for the years 1973–75 announced by the previous administration in December 1973.
The present Government, however, announced in July 1974 that there would, after all, be some resources made available for the replacement or improvement of a very limited number of primary schools during the building year which ran from 1st July 1974 to 30th June 1975. We were able to set aside only a very small reserve of money for this purpose and my right hon. Friend decided that it should be allocated only in respect of schools which served areas of social deprivation. Local authorities were invited to submit to the Department for consideration the names of schools which met the criteria and there was, not surprisingly, great competition for the small amount of money available. The Trafford Authority did not include St. Anne's, Sale, in its list of hopefuls, believing that this school did not meet the criteria required.
School building resources for the current-and-future programme years take the form of a lump sum authorisation to each local education authority, and authorities are able to decide for themselves their own priorities for spending the sums allocated. For 1975–76 Trafford has included only one major replacement project in its list of intended starters and this is for a primary school situated in Stretford, an area of undoubted social need as I am sure the hon. Gentleman will agree. The St. Anne's project was second only to that for the Stretford School and now becomes Trafford's top priority for replacement. The authority hopes that work can be carried out in the building year 1976–77, but this must, inevitably, depend on the level of resources available.
I cannot, I am afraid, say at present just what sums it will be possible to authorise for school building by local authorities in 1976–77; but my right hon. Friend intends to announce the allocations shortly and we shall, at the same time, be asking authorities to let us know how they intend to spend them.
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman, with whose constituents I have the greatest sympathy, is aware of the great restrictions that there are at present. It will be up to the authority to decide how it spends its money. We must leave it to the 1771 is replaced, it is the joint responsibility authority. Until such time as the school of the authority and the managers of the school to ensure that the health and safety of the pupils and staff are safeguarded and to take whatever steps are necessary to this end.
| PETROLEUM AND SUBMARINE PIPE-LINE BILL | ||
| Division List No. 308 [see col. 1579] | ||
| Division No. 308.] | AYES | [7.0 p.m. |
| Allaun, Frank | Dunnett, Jack | Jones, Alec (Rhondda) |
| Anderson, Donald | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Jones, Barry (East Flint) |
| Archer, Peter | Eadie, Alex | Jones, Dan (Burnley) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Edelman, Maurice | Judd, Frank |
| Ashley, Jack | Edge, Geoff | Kaufman, Gerald |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) | Kelley, Richard |
| Atkinson, Norman | Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) | Kerr, Russell |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | Kilroy-Silk, Robert |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | English, Michael | Kinnock, Neil |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Ennals, David | Lambie, David |
| Bean, R. E. | Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) | Lamborn, Harry |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Evans, loan (Aberdare) | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Evans, John (Newton) | Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Ewing, Harry (Stirling) | Lever, Rt Hon Harold |
| Bishop, E. S. | Faulds, Andrew | Lewis, Arthur (Newham N) |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Fernyhough, Rt Hon F. | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) |
| Boardman, H. | Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Lipton, Marcus |
| Booth, Albert | Flannery, Martin | Lomas, Kenneth |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Loyden, Eddie |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Luard, Evan |
| Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Lyon, Alexander (York) |
| Bradley, Tom | Ford, Ben | Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) |
| Broughton, Sir Alfred | Forrester, John | McCartney, Hugh |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Proyan) | Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) | McElhone, Frank |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Fraser, John (Lambeth Norwood) | MacFarquhar, Roderick |
| Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | Freeson, Reginald | McGuire, Michael (Ince) |
| Buchan, Norman | Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Mackenzie, Gregor |
| Buchanan, Richard | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Mackintosh, John P. |
| Butler, Mrs Joyce (Wood Green) | George, Bruce | Maclennan, Robert |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Gilbert, Dr John | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) |
| Campbell, Ian | Ginsburg, David | McNamara, Kevin |
| Canavan, Dennis | Golding, John | Madden, Max |
| Cant, R. B. | Gould, Bryan | Magee, Bryan |
| Carmichael, Neil | Gourlay, Harry | Mahon, Simon |
| Carter, Ray | Graham, Ted | Mallalieu, J. P. W. |
| Cartwright, John | Grant, George (Morpeth) | Marks, Kenneth |
| Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Grant, John (Islington C) | Marquand, David |
| Clemitson, Ivor | Grocott, Bruce | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) |
| Cocks, Michael (Bristol S) | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Mason, Rt Hon Roy |
| Cohen, Stanley | Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) | Maynard, Miss Joan |
| Coleman, Donald | Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Meacher, Michael |
| Conlan, Bernard | Hart, Rt Hon Judith | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert |
| Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy | Mendelson, John |
| Corbett, Robin | Hatton, Frank | Mikardo, Ian |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Hayman, Mrs Helene | Millan, Bruce |
| Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Healey, Rt Hon Denis | Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Heffer, Eric S. | Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N) |
| Cronin, John | Hooley, Frank | Mitchell, R. C. (Solon, lichen) |
| Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Horam, John | Molloy, William |
| Cryer, Bob | Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) | Moonman, Eric |
| Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) |
| Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh) | Huckfield, Les | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) |
| Dalyell, Tam | Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) |
| Davidson, Arthur | Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Davies Bryan (Enfield N) | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Newens, Stanley |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Hunter, Adam | Noble, Mike |
| Deakins, Eric | Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) | Cakes, Gordon |
| Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) | Ogden, Eric |
| de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) | O'Halloran, Michael |
| Delargy, Hugh | Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) | O'Malley, Rt Hon Brian |
| Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Janner Greville | Orbach, Maurice |
| Dempsey, James | Jeger, Mrs Lena | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Doig, Peter | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Ovenden, John |
| Dormand, J. D. | John, Brynmor | Owen, Dr David |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Johnson, James (Hull West) | Padley, Walter |
| Dunn, James A. | Johnson, Walter (Derby S) | Palmer, Arthur |
§ I greatly hope that it will be possible for Trafford to give this matter top priority and to receive an allocation for it.
§ Question put and agreed to.
§ Adjourned accordingly at twenty-three minutes past Five o'clock a.m.
| Park, George | Shore, Rt Hon Peter | Urwin, T. W. |
| Parker, John | Short, Rt Hon E. (Newcastle C) | Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. |
| Parry, Robert | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| Pavitt, Laurie | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Dept(ord) | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Peart, Rt Hon Fred | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Pendry, Tom | Sillars, James | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Perry, Ernest | Silverman, Julius | Watkins, David |
| Phipps, Dr Colin | Skinner, Dennis | Watkinson, John |
| Prescott, John | Small, William | Weetch, Ken |
| Price, C. (Lewisham W) | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) | Weitzman, David |
| Price, William (Rugby) | Snape, Peter | Wellbeloved, James |
| Radice, Giles | Spearing, Nigel | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) | Spriggs, Leslie | White, James (Pollok) |
| Richardson, Miss Jo | Stallard, A. W. | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Stott, Roger | Whitlock, William |
| Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) | Strang, Gavin | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Robertson, John (Paisley) | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Roderick, Caerwyn | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Rodgers, George (Chorley) | Swain, Thomas | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Rodgers, William (Stockton) | Taylor, Mrs A. | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Rooker, J. W. | Thomas, Dafydd | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
| Roper, John | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Rose, Paul B. | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) | Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Rowlands, Ted | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) | Woof, Robert |
| Ryman, John | Tierney, Sydney | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Sandelson, Neville | Tinn, James | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Sedgemore, Brian | Tomlinson, John | |
| Selby, Harry | Tomney, Frank | TELLERS FOR THE AYES |
| Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) | Torney, Tom | Mr. Joseph Harper and |
| Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) | Tuck, Raphael | Mr. David Stoddart. |
| NOES | ||
| Adley, Robert | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Drayson, Burnaby | Havers, Sir Michael |
| Alison, Michael | du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Hawkins. Paul |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Dunlop, John | Hayhoe, Barney |
| Arnold, Tom | Durant, Tony | Henderson, Douglas |
| Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) | Dykes, Hugh | Heseltine Michael |
| Awdry, Daniel | Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Hicks, Robert |
| Bain, Mrs Margaret | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Holland, Philip |
| Baker, Kenneth | Elliott, Sir William | Hooson, Emlyn |
| Banks, Robert | Emery, Peter | Hordern, Peter |
| Beith, A. J. | Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Bell, Ronald | Eyre, Reginald | Howell, David (Guildford) |
| Benyon, W. | Fairbairn, Nicholas | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) |
| Berry, Hon Anthony | Fairgrieve, Russell | Howells, Geraint (Cardigan) |
| Bitten, John | Farr, John | Hunt, John |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Fell, Anthony | Hurd, Douglas |
| Blaker, Peter | Finsberg, Geoffrey | Hutchison, Michael Clark |
| Body, Richard | Fisher, Sir Nigel | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) |
| Bottomley, Peter | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | James, David |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) | Fookes, Miss Janet | Jenkin, Rt Hon P. (Wanst'd & W'df'd) |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) | Jessel, Toby |
| Brittan, Leon | Fox, Marcus | Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) |
| Brotherton, Michael | Freud, Clement | Johnston, Russell (Inverness) |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Fry, Peter | Jones, Arthur (Daventry) |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. | Jopling, Michael |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith |
| Buck, Antony | Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) | Kaberry, Sir Donald |
| Budgen, Nick | Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) | Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) | Kershaw, Anthony |
| Carlisle, Mark | Glyn, Dr Alan | Kimball, Marcus |
| Carr, Rt Hon Robert | Godber, Rt Hon Joseph | King, Evelyn (South Dorset) |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Goodhart, Philip | King, Tom (Bridgwater) |
| Channon, Paul | Goodhew, Victor | Kirk, Peter |
| Churchill, W. S. | Goodlad, Alastair | Knight, Mrs Jill |
| Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Gorst, John | Knox, David |
| Clark, William (Croydon S) | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) | Lamont, Norman |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) | Lane, David |
| Clegg, Walter | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) | Langford-Holt, Sir John |
| Cockcroft, John | Gray Hamish | Latham, Michael (Melton) |
| Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Grieve, Percy | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Cope,John | Griffiths, Eldon | Lawson, Nigel |
| Cordle, John H. | Grimond, Rt Hon J. | Le Marchant, Spencer |
| Cormack, Patrick | Grist, Ian | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) |
| Corrie, John | Grylls, Michael | Lloyd, Ian |
| Costain, A. P. | Hall, Sir John | Loveridge, John |
| Crawford, Douglas | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Luce, Richard |
| Crouch, David | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | McAdden, Sir Stephen |
| Crowder, F. P. | Hampson, Dr Keith | MacCormick, lain |
| Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Hannam, John | McCrindle, Robert |
| Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Harrison, Col Sir Harwood (Eye) | Macfarlane, Neil |
| MacGregor, John | Prior, Rt Hon James | Stanley, John |
| Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) | Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Steel, David (Roxburgh) |
| McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) | Raison, Timothy | Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) |
| McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) | Rathbone, Tim | Stewart, Donald (Western Isles) |
| Madel, David | Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) |
| Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) | Stokes, John |
| Marten, Neil | Rees-Davies, W. R. | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| Mates, Michael | Reid, George | Tapsell, Peter |
| Mather, Carol | Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Taylor, R. (Croydon NW) |
| Maude, Angus | Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) |
| Mawby, Ray | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Tebbit, Norman |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Mayhew, Patrick | Ridsdale, Julian | Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret |
| Meyer, Sir Anthony | Rifkind, Malcolm | Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S) |
| Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) | Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey | Thompson, George |
| Mills, Peter | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) | Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon) |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) | Trotter, Neville |
| Moate, Roger | Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Monro, Hector | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Montgomery, Fergus | Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| Moore, John (Croydon C) | Royle, Sir Anthony | Viggers, Peter |
| More, Jasper (Ludlow) | Seinsbury, Tim | Wainwright, Richard (Colne V) |
| Morgan, Geraint | St. John-Stevas, Norman | Wakeham, John |
| Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral | Scott, Nicholas | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Morris, Michael (Northampton S) | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | Wall, Patrick |
| Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) | Walters, Dennis |
| Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) | Shelton, William (Streatham) | Warren, Kenneth |
| Mudd, David | Shepherd, Colin | Watt, Hamish |
| Nelson, Anthony | Shersby, Michael | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Neubert, Michael | Silvester, Fred | Wells, John |
| Newton, Tony | Sims, Roger | Whitelaw, Rt Hon William |
| Normanton, Tom | Sinclair, Sir George | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Nott, John | Skeet, T. H. H. | Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E) |
| Oppenheim, Mrs Sally | Smith, Cyril (Rochdale) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Page, John (Harrow West) | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) | Wood, Rt Hon Richard |
| Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) | Speed, Keith | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) |
| Pattie, Geoffrey | Spence, John | Younger, Hon George |
| Penhaligon, David | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) | |
| Percival, Ian | Spicer, Michsel (S Worcester) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES- |
| Peyton, Rt Hon John | Sproat, lain | Mr. Adam Butler and |
| Pink, R. Bonner | Stainton, Keith | Mr. Cecil Parkinson. |
| Price, David (Eastleigh) | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| REMUNERATION, CHARGES AND GRANTS BILL | ||
| Division Lists Nos. 309–11 | [see cols. 1642 and 1707.] | |
| Division No. 309] | AYES | 10.30 p.m. |
| Adley, Robert | Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Alison, Michael | Cope, John | Gorst, John |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Cormack, Patrick | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) |
| Arnold, Tom | Crouch, David | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) |
| Awdry, Daniel | Crowder, F. P. | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) |
| Bain, Mrs Margaret | Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Gray, Hamish |
| Baker, Kenneth | Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Grieve, Percy |
| Banks, Robert | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Griffiths, Eldon |
| Benyon, W. | Drayson, Burnaby | Grimond, Rt Hon J. |
| Berry, Hon Anthony | Dunlop, John | Grist, Ian |
| Biffen, John | Durant, Tony | Grylls, Michael |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Dykes, Hugh | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. |
| Blaker, Peter | Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Hampson, Dr. Keith |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Elliott, Sir William | Hannam, John |
| Bottomley, Peter | Emery, Peter | Harrison, Col Sir Harwood (Eye) |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemplown) | Eyre, Reginald | Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Fairbairn, Nicholas | Havers, Sir Michael |
| Bradford, Rev Robert | Fairgrieve, Russell | Hawkins, Paul |
| Brittan, Leon | Farr, John | Hayhoe, Barney |
| Brotherton, Michael | Fell, Anthony | Henderson, Douglas |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Finsberg, Geoffrey | Heseltine, Michael |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) | Hicks, Robert |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Holland, Philip |
| Buck, Antony | Fookes, Miss Janet | Hordern, Peter |
| Budgen, Nick | Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Fox, Marcus | Howell, David (Guildford) |
| Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Freud, Clement | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) |
| Carlisle, Mark | Fry, Peter | Howells, Geraint |
| Carr, Rt Hon Robert | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. | Hunt, John |
| Carson, John | Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Hurd, Douglas |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) | Hutchison, Michael Clark |
| Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) |
| Clark, William (Croydon S) | Glyn, Dr Alan | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Goodhart, Philip | James, David |
| Cockcroft, John | Goodhew, Victor | Jenkin, Rt Hon P. (Wanst'd & W'df'd) |
| Jessel, Toby | Monro, Hector | Silvester, Fred |
| Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) | Montgomery, Fergus | Sims, Roger |
| Johnston, Russell (Inverness) | Moore, John (Croydon C) | Sinclair, Sir George |
| Jopling, Michael | More, Jasper (Ludlow) | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) |
| Kaberry, Sir Donald | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral | Speed, Keith |
| Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine | Morris, Michael (Northampton S) | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) |
| Kershaw, Anthony | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcester) |
| Kilfedder, James | Morrison. Hon Peter (Chester) | Sproat, lain |
| Kimball, Marcus | Nelson, Anthony | Stainton, Keith |
| King, Evelyn (South Dorset) | Neubert, Michael | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Newton, Tony | Stanley, John |
| Kirk, Peter | Normanton, Tom | Steel, David (Roxburgh) |
| Knight, Mrs Jill | Nott, John | Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) |
| Knox, David | Oppenheim, Mrs Sally | Stewart, Donald (Western Isles) |
| Lamont, Norman | Page, John (Harrow West) | Stewart, Ian (Hitchln) |
| Lane, David | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) | Stokes, John |
| Langford-Holt, Sir John | Parkinson, Cecil | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| Latham, Michael (Melton) | Pattie, Geoffrey | Taylor, R. (Croydon, NW) |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Penhaligon, David | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) |
| Lawson, Nigel | Percival, Ian | Tebbit, Norman |
| Le Marchant, Spencer | Peyton, Rt Hon John | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Pink, R. Bonner | Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S) |
| Loveridge, John | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch | Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon) |
| Luce, Richard | Price, David (Eastleigh) | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| McAdden, Sir Stephen | Prior, Rt Hon James | Trotter, Neville |
| McCrindle, Robert | Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| McCusker, H. | Raison, Timothy | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Macfarlane, Neil | Rathbone, Tim | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| MacGregor, John | Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Viggers, Peter |
| McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) | Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) | Wainwright, Richard (Colne V) |
| Wakeham, John | ||
| McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) | Reid, George | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Madel, David | Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Wall, Patrick |
| Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) | Walters, Dennis |
| Marten, Neil | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Warren, Kenneth |
| Mates, Michael | Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Watt, Hamish |
| Mather, Carol | Ridsdale, Julian | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Maude, Angus | Rifkind, Malcolm | Wells, John |
| Mawby, Ray | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E) |
| Mayhew, Patrick | Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) | Wintorton, Nicholas |
| Meyer, Sir Anthony | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) | Wood, Rt Hon Richard |
| Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) | Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) |
| Mills, Peter | Sainsbury, Tim | Younger, Hon George |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | |
| Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Moate, Roger | Shepherd, Colin | Mr. Cyril Smith and |
| Molyneaux, James | Shersby, Michael | M. A. J. Beith. |
| NOES | ||
| Allaun, Frank | Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Eadie, Alex |
| Anderson, Donald | Clemitson, Ivor | Edelman, Maurice |
| Archer, Peter | Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S) | Edge, Geoff |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Cohen, Stanley | Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Coleman, Donald | Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) |
| Atkinson, Norman | Conlan, Bernard | Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | English, Michael |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Corbett, Robin | Ennals, David |
| Harnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Evans, loan (Aberdare) |
| Bean, R. E. | Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Evans, John (Newton) |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Crawshaw, Richard | Ewing, Harry (Stirling) |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Cronin, John | Faulds, Andrew |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. |
| Bishop, E. S. | Cryer, Bob | Flannery, Martin |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) |
| Boardman, H. | Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh.) | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) |
| Booth, Albert | Dalyell, Tam | Foot, Rt Hon Michael |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Davidson, Arthur | Ford, Ben |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Forrester, John |
| Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) |
| Bradley, Tom | Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'wd) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Deakins, Eric | Freeson, Reginald |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Garrett, John (Norwich S) |
| Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) |
| Buchan, Norman | Delargy, Hugh | George, Bruce |
| Buchanan, Richard | Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Ginsburg, David |
| Butler, Mrs Joyce (Haringey) | Dempsey, James | Golding, John |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P.) Campbell Ian | Doig, Peter | Gould, Bryan |
| Canavan, Dennis | Dormand, J. D. | Gourlay, Harry |
| Cant, R.B. | Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Graham, Ted |
| Carmichael, Neil | Dunn, James A. | Grant, George (Morpeth) |
| Carter, Ray | Dunnett, Jack | Grant, John (Islington C) |
| Cartwright, John | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Grocott, Bruce |
| Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Magee, Bryan | Short, Rt Hon E. (Newcastle C) |
| Hamilton, W. W. (Central File) | Mahon, Simon | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) |
| Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Mallalieu, J. P. W. | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Hart, Rt Hon Judith | Marks, Kenneth | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Hatton, Frank | Marquand, David | Sillars, James |
| Hayman, Mrs Helena | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) | Silverman, Julius |
| Healey, Rt Hon Denis | Mason, Rt Hon Roy | Skinner, Dennis |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Meacher, Michael | Small, William |
| Hooley, Frank | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) |
| Horam, John | Millan, Bruce | Snape, Peter |
| Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) | Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) | Miller, Mrs Millie (Iltord N) | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Huckfield, Les | Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) | Stallard, A. W. |
| Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) | Molloy, William | Stoddart, David |
| Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Moonman, Eric | Stott, Roger |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Strang, Gavin |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. |
| Hunter, Adam | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) | Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick | Swain, Thomas |
| Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) | Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton, W) |
| Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) | Newons, Stanley | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) | Noble, Mike | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) |
| Janner, Greville | Oakes, Gordon | Thomas, Ron (Bristol, NW) |
| Jeger, Mrs Lena | Ogden, Eric | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) |
| Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | O'Halloran, Michael | Tierney, Sydney |
| John, Brynmor | O'Malley, Rt Hon Brian | Tinn, James |
| Johnson, James (Hull West) | Orbach, Maurice | Tomlinson, John |
| Johnson, Walter (Derby S) | Ovenden, John | Tomney, Frank |
| Jones, Alec (Rhondda) | Owen, Dr David | Urwin, T. W. |
| Jones, Barry (East Flint) | Padley, Walter | Varley, Rt Hn Eric G. |
| Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Palmer, Arthur | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| Judd, Frank | Park, George | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Kaufman, Gerald | Parker, John | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Kelley, Richard | Parry, Robert | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Kerr, Russell | Peart, Rt Hon Fred | Watkins, David |
| Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Pendry, Tom | Watkinson, John |
| Kinnock, Neil | Phipps, Dr Colin | Weetch, Ken |
| Lambie, David | Prescott, John | Weitzman, David |
| Lamborn, Harry | Price, C. (Lewisham W) | Wellbeloved, James |
| Leadbitter, Ted | Price, William (Rugby) | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Lee, John | Radice, Giles | White, James (Pollok) |
| Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) | Whitlock, William |
| Lomas, Kenneth | Roderick, Caerwyn | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Loyden, Eddie | Rodgers, George (Chorley) | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Luard, Evan | Rodgers, William (Stockton) | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Lyons, Edward (Bradford, W) | Rooker, J. W. | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| McCartney, Hugh | Roper John | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| McElhone, Frank | Rose, Paul B. | Wilson, William (Coventry S.E.) |
| MacFarquhar, Roderick | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) | Woof, Robert |
| McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Rowlands, Ted | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Mackenzie, Gregor | Ryman, John | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Mackintosh, John P. | Sandelson, Neville | |
| Maclennan, Robert | Sedgemore, Brian | TELLERS FOR THE NOES |
| McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) | Mr. Joseph Harper and |
| McNamara, Kevin | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) | Mr. Laurie Pavitt. |
| Madden, Max | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Division No. 310.] | AYES | [12.25 a.m. |
| Adley, Robert | Carlisle, Mark | Fairgrieve, Russell |
| Alison, Michael | Carr, Rt Hon Robert | Farr, John |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Carson, John | Finsberg, Geoffrey |
| Arnold, Tom | Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Fisher, Sir Nigel |
| Awdry, Daniel | Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Fletcher Alex (Edinburgh N) |
| Baker, Kenneth | Clark, William (Croydon S) | Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) |
| Banks, Robert | Cockcroft, John | Fox, Marcus |
| Berry, Hon Anthony | Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Fry, Peter |
| Bitten, John | Cope, John | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Cormack Patrick | Gardiner, George (Reigate) |
| Blaker, Peter | Crouch, David | Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Glyn Dr Alan |
| Bottomley, Peter | Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Goodhart, Philip |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kempton) | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Goodhew, Victor |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Drayson, Burnaby | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Bradford, Rev Robert | Dunlop, John | Gorst, John |
| Brittan, Leon | Durant, Tony | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) |
| Brotherton, Michael | Dykes, Hugh | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Gray, Hamish |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Elliott, Sir William | Grieve, Percy |
| Buck, Antony | Emery, Peter | Griffiths, Eldon |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Eyre, Reginald | Grist, Ian |
| Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Fairbairn, Nicholas | Grylls, Michael |
| Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Mfarten, Neil | Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) |
| Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Mates, Michael | Sainsbury, Tim |
| Hampson Or Keith | Mather, Carol | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Hannam, John | Maude, Angus | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) |
| Harrison, Col Sir Harwood (Eye) | Maxwell-Hysfop, Robin | Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) |
| Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss | Mayhew, Patrick | Shepherd, Colin |
| Havers, Sir Michael | Meyer, Sir Anthony | Shersby, Michael |
| Hawkins, Paul | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) | Silvester, Fred |
| Hayhoe, Barney | Mills, Peter | Sims, Roger |
| Henderson, Douglas | Miscampbell, Norman | Smith, Cyril (Rochdale) |
| Heseltine, Michael | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) |
| Hicks, Robert | Moate, Roger | Speed, Keith |
| Holland, Philip | Molyneaux, James | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) |
| Hordern, Peter | Monro, Hector | Spicer, Michael (S Worcester) |
| Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Montgomery, Fergus | Sproat, lain |
| Howell David (Guildford) | Moore, John (Croydon C) | Stainton, Keith |
| Howell, Ralph(North Norfolk) | More, Jasper (Ludlow) | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Hunt, John | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral | Stanley, John |
| Hurd Douglas | Morris, Michael (Northampton S) | Steen, Anthony (Wavertrea) |
| Hutchison, Michael Clark | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) |
| Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) | Stokes, John |
| Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Nelson, Anthony | Stradling Thomas, J. |
| James, David | Neubert, Michael | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) |
| Jenkin, Rt Hon P. (Wanst'd & W'dt'd) | Newton, Tony | Tebbit, Norman |
| Jessel, Toby | Normanton, Tom | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Jopling, Michael | Nott, John | Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S) |
| Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine | Oppenheim, Mrs Sally | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| Kimball, Marcus | Page, John (Harrow West) | Trotter, Neville |
| King, Evelyn (South Dorset) | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Parkinson, Cecil | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Kirk, Peter | Pattie, Geoffrey | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| Knight, Mrs Jill | Percival, Ian | Viggers, Peter |
| Knox, David | Peyton, Rt Hon John | Wakeham, John |
| Lamont, Norman | Pink, R. Bonner | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Lane, David | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enooh | Wall, Patrick |
| Langford-Holt, Sir John | Price, David (Eastleigh) | Walters, Dennis |
| Latham, Michael (Melton) | Prior, Rt Hon James | Warren, Kenneth |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Watt, Hamish |
| Lawson, Nigel | Raison, Timothy | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Le Marchant, Spencer | Rathbone,Tim | Wells, John |
| Loveridge, John | Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Luce, Richard | Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) | Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E) |
| McCrindle, Robert | Ronton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| McCusker, H. | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Wood, Rt Hon Richard |
| Macfarlane, Neil | Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) |
| MacGregor, John | Ridsdale, Julian | Younger, Hon George |
| McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) | Rifkind, Malcolm | |
| McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) | Mr. Michael Roberts and |
| Mr. W. Benyon. | ||
| NOES | ||
| Allaun, Frank | Cant, R. B. | Dempsey, James |
| Anderson, Donald | Carmichael, Neil | Doig, Peter |
| Archer, Peter | Carter, Ray | Dormand, J. D. |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Cartwright, John | Douglas-Mann, Bruce |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Dunn, James A. |
| Atkinson, Norman | Clemitson, Ivor | Dunnett, Jack |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Cocks, Michael (Bristol S) | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Cohen, Stanley | Eadie, Alex |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel | Coleman, Donald | Edge, Geoff |
| Bean, R. E. | Conlan, Bernard | Ellis, John (Brigg, Scun) |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) |
| Bennett, Andrew(Stockport N) | Corbett, Robin | English, Michael |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Ennals, David |
| Bishop, E. S. | Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Evans, loan (Aberdare) |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Crawshaw, Richard | Evans, John (Newton) |
| Boardman, H. | Cronin, John | Ewing, Harry (Stirling) |
| Booth, Albert | Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Femyhough, Rt Hon E. |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Cryer, Bob | Flannery, Martin |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) |
| Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiten) | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) |
| Bradley, Tom | Dalyell, Tam | Foot, Rt Hon Michael |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Proban) | Davidson, Arthur | Ford, Ben |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Forrester, John |
| Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Fowler, Gerald (Wrekin) |
| Buchan,Norman | Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd) |
| Buchanan, Richard | Deakins, Eric | Freeson, Reginald |
| Butler, Mrs Joyce (Wood Green) | Dean, Joseph (Leeds, W) | Garrett, John (Norwich S) |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) |
| Campbell, Ian | Delargy, Hugh | George, Bruce |
| Canavan, Dennis | Deli, Rt Hon Edmund | Ginsburg, David |
| Golding John | McNamsra, Kevin | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) |
| Gould, Bryan | Maddan, Max | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) |
| Gourlay, Harry | Magee, Bryan | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Graham, Ted | Mahon, Simon | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) |
| Grant, George (Morpeth) | Mallalieu, J. P. W. | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Grant John (Islington C) | Marks, Kenneth | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Marquand, David | Sillars, James |
| Harper, Joseph | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) | Silverman, Julius |
| Harrison, Waiter (Waketfield) | Meacher, Michael | Skinner, Dennis |
| Hart, Rt Hon Judith | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Small, William |
| Hatton, Frank | Mikardo, Ian | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) |
| Hayman Mrs Herene | Millan, Bruce | Snape, Peter |
| Healey, 'Rt Hon Denis | Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N) | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Hooley, Frank | Mitchell. R. C. (Ston, Itchen) | Stallard, A. W. |
| Horam, John | Molloy, William | Stoddart, David |
| Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) | Moorman, Eric | Stott, Roger |
| Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Strang, Gavin |
| Huckfield, Les | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. |
| Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick | Swain, Thomas |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Newens, Stanley | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) |
| Hunter, Adam | Noble. Mike | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) |
| Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) | Oakes, Gordon | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) |
| Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) | Ogden, Eric | Tierney, Sydney |
| Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) | O'Halloran, Michael | Tinn, James |
| Janner, Greville | O'Malley, Rt Hon Brian | Tomlinson, John |
| Jeger, Mrs Lena | Orbach, Maurice | Urwin, T. W. |
| Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Ovenden, John | Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. |
| John, Brynmor | Owen, Dr David | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| Johnson, Walter (Derby S) | Padley, Walter | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Jones, Alec (Rhondda) | Palmer, Arthur | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Jones, Barry (East Flint) | Park, George | Walter, Terry (Kingswood |
| Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Parry, Robert | Watkins, David |
| Kaufman. Gerald | Pavitt, Laurie | Watkinson, John |
| Kelley, Richard | Peart, Rt Hon Fred | Weetch, Ken |
| Kerr, Russell | Phipps, Dr Colin | Wellbelovrd, James |
| Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Prescott, John | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Kinnock, Neil | Price C. (Lewisham W) | White, James (Pollock) |
| Lambie, David | Price, William (Rugby) | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Lamborn, Harry | Radice, Giles | Whitlock, William |
| Leadbitter, Ted | Richardson, Miss Jo | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Lewis, Ron Carlisle) | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Loyden, Eddie | Roderick, Caerwyn | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Luard, Evan | Rodgers, George (Chorley) | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Lyon, Alexander (York) | Rodgers, William (Stockton) | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) | Rooker, J. W. | Wise, Mrs. Audrey |
| McElhone, Frank | Roper, John | Woof, Robert |
| MacFarquhar, Roderick | Rose, Paul B. | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) | Young David (Bolton 5) |
| Mackenzie, Gregor | Rowlands, Ted | |
| Mackintosh, John P. | Ryman, John | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Maclennan, Robert | Sandelson, Neville | Mr. James Hamilton and |
| McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Sedgemore, Brian | Mr. Tom Pendry. |
| Division No. 311] | AYES | [1.48 a.m. |
| Bitten, John | Mather, Carol | Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) |
| Clark, William (Croydon S) | Miscampbell, Norman | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Dunlop, John | Montgomery, Fergus | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Oppenheim, Mrs Sally | Wells, John |
| Fairgrieve, Russell | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) | |
| Goodhart, Philip | Parkinson, Cecil | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Havers, Sir Michael | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch | Mr. Ivan Lawrence and |
| Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Mr. Nicholas Ridley. |
| Lamont, Norman | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | |
| Lawson, Nigel | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) | |
| NOES | ||
| Allaun, Frank | Bishop, E. S. | Buchanan, Richard |
| Archer, Peter | Blenkinsop, Arthur | Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Boardman, H. | Campbell, Ian |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Booth, Albert | Canavan, Dennis |
| Atkinson, Norman | Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Cant, R.B. |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Carmichael, Neil |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Bradley, Tom | Carter, Ray |
| Bean, R. E. | Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Cartwright, John |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Castle, Rt Hon Barbara |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | Clemitson, Ivor |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Buchan, Norman | Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S) |
| Cohen, Stanley | Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) | Park, George |
| Coleman, Donald | Huckfield, Les | Parry, Robert |
| Conlan, Bernard | Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) | Pavitt, Laurie |
| Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Pendry, Tom |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Penhaligon, David |
| Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Hunter, Adam | Prescott, John |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) | Radice, Giles |
| Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) | Richardson, Miss Jo |
| Cryer, Bob | Janner, Greville | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
| Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) |
| Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh) | John, Brynmor | Roderick, Caerwyn |
| Davidson, Arthur | Johnson, Walter (Derby S) | Rodgers, George (Chorley) |
| Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Jones, Alec (Rhondda) | Rooker, J. W. |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Jones, Barry (East Flint) | Roper, John |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) |
| Deakins, Eric | Kaufman, Gerald | Rowlands, Ted |
| Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Kelley, Richard | Ryman, John |
| de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Kerr, Russell | Sandelson, Neville |
| Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Kinnock, Nell | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Dempsey, James | Lambie, David | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) |
| Doig, Peter | Lamborn, Harry | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Dormand, J. D. | Leadbitter, Ted | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton &Slough) | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Dunn, James A. | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Dunnett, Jack | Loyden, Eddie | Sillars, James |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Lyon, Alexander (York) | Silverman, Julius |
| Eadie, Alex | Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Edge, Geoff | McElhone, Frank | Small, William |
| Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) | MaeFarquhar, Roderick | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) |
| Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Spearing, Nigel |
| English, Michael | Mackenzie, Gregor | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Evans, loan (Aberdare) | Maclennan, Robert | Stallard, A. W. |
| Evans, John (Newton) | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Stott, Roger |
| Ewing Harry (Stirling) | McNamara, Kevin | Strang, Gavin |
| Fornyhough, Rt Hon E. | Madden, Max | Swain, Thomas |
| Flannery, Martin | Magee, Bryan | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) |
| Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Mahon, Simon | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) |
| Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Mallalleu, J. P. W. | Tinn, James |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Marks, Kenneth | Urwin, T. W. |
| Ford, Ben | Marquand, David | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley) |
| Forrester, John | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) | Meacher, Michael | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'wd) | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Freeson, Reginald | Mikardo, Ian | Watkinson, John |
| Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Millan, Bruce | Weetch, Ken |
| George, Bruce | Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Golding, John | Miller, Mrs Millie (llford N) | White, James (Pollok) |
| Graham, Ted | Mitchell, R. C. (Solon, lichen) | Whitlock, William |
| Grant, George (Morpeth) | Molloy, William | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Grant, John (Islington C) | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Harper, Joseph | Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Wise. Mrs Audrey |
| Hart, Rt Hon Judith | Newens, Stanley | Woof, Robert |
| Hatton, Frank | Noble, Mike | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Hayman, Mrs Helene | O'Halloran, Michael | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Healey, Rt Hon Denis Heffer, Eric S. | O'Malley, Rt Hon Brian Ovenden, John | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Hooley, Frank | Owen, Dr David | Mr. David Stoddart and |
| Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) | Palmer, Arthur | Mr. James Hamilton. |