HC Deb 08 July 1975 vol 895 cc325-6
17. Mr. Dempsey

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further consideration has been given to changing the situation whereby widows' benefits are taken into account in determining training grants; and if she will make a statement.

Mr. O'Malley

As my hon. Friend is aware, there is already provision to pay a widowed mother a training allowance of £3.50 on top of her widow's benefit. This arrangement is kept under regular review. But, as I said in my reply to my hon. Friend on 9th July 1974, I shall be glad to look into any case of particular difficulty which he may have in mind.—[Vol. 876, c. 415–16.]

Mr. Dempsey

Is my right hon. Friend aware that when this case originally appeared in a Question on the Order Paper many months ago it was drawn to the attention of his Department? I refer to a widow whose employment grant was reduced fom £14.10 to £3.10 because her widow's pension was taken into account. Is it not unfair that alongside that widow there are highly-paid people who are getting the full amount? Is not that unjust? Is it not about time that we ended this discrimination?

Mr. O'Malley

My hon. Friend will understand the long-standing principle that payment out of public funds should not be made twice over for the same need. However, if my hon. Friend has a particular problem such as he described to me for the first time a few moments ago, I shall be pleased to look into it in detail with him.