§ 2. Mr. Goldingasked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to improve the education of workshop representatives.
§ The Under-Secretary of State for Employment (Mr. Harold Walker)The content of courses for improving the education of workshop representatives is largely for the parties concerned. We have, however, taken action in the Employment Protection Bill to facilitate such training by providing for time off for workers to undergo training in aspects of industrial relations relevant to the carrying out of their trade union duties.
§ Mr. GoldingIs the Minister aware that the very rapid growth in industrial democracy which we are expecting from this Government will require the development of trade union education? Is he further aware that, while we respect the fact that trade unions will want to control their education themselves, institutions must be provided in which that education can take place?
§ Mr. WalkerCertainly. It is my wish that courses of that kind should be sustained and expanded. My hon. Friend is right to identify the need for growth in this area in future. He will recognise that there are difficulties in determining whether such courses are educational or vocational and consequently which Department is responsible for their provision. Equally, I am sure my hon. Friend recognises that the TUC feels that training in industrial relations matters for trade union members and officials is primarily a job for it, but I shall look carefully at the point he has put to me.
§ Mr. FellHow can the hon. Gentleman talk about industrial democracy when certain of the top unions in this country refuse point blank to have anything to do with voting by post?
§ Mr. WalkerI do not think that arises on this Question.